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re: Racist or Not Racist?
Posted on 4/27/15 at 8:26 am to FourThreeForty
Posted on 4/27/15 at 8:26 am to FourThreeForty
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For some, they can only be pushed so hard by a particular group of people that they form an all encompassing opinion of said group. Racism ranges anything from being raised that way to strings of bad experience with a particular color or ethnicity of people
You're not even intelligent enough to realize the abject irony in every single thing you post. you're either incredibly stupid or lack any sense of objectivity, whatsoever.
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Posted on 4/27/15 at 8:52 am to FourThreeForty
Oh, and please convey my condolences to your dad for having to grow up as a white man during the civil rights era in Alabama. I mean the thought of what he had to go through makes me shudder. And you, too, the things you must've endured. I'm so sorry.
Posted on 4/27/15 at 9:08 am to deeprig9
Well stated. Guy makes a lot of good points.
Posted on 4/27/15 at 11:11 am to I-59 Tiger
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Well stated. Guy makes a lot of good points.
It is possible to intertwine valid observations with bigotry.
Posted on 4/27/15 at 11:12 am to I-59 Tiger
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Well stated. Guy makes a lot of good points.
Which points do you agree with?
Posted on 4/27/15 at 11:13 am to Goldrush25
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It is possible to intertwine valid observations with bigotry.
Which observations are valid?
Posted on 4/27/15 at 11:29 am to TeLeFaWx
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Which observations are valid?
For instance, two people can note a valid correlation of crime with minority population densities in certain regions and reach different conclusions as to why those conditions exist. I disagree with his conclusion, that doesn't make the observation invalid. Hope that makes sense.
His overarching tone is sanctimonious IMO. The way he's commenting on an entire culture in that manner is the very definition of bigotry.
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Posted on 4/27/15 at 11:56 am to I-59 Tiger
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Well stated. Guy makes a lot of good points
lol. But what about the most salient point he should make(if his argument were in any way valid), but doesn't? That is: what about post slavery African immigrants to America?
If his hypothesis is correct, then it should logically follow that these immigrants would show similar rates of poverty, education, violence as native born blacks. However, they are more likely per capita than native born whites to: 1. Not be arrested or convicted for a violent crime 2. Graduate from HS. 3. Graduate from college. 4. Attain a graduate degree.
And poof,there goes his argument. But I'm sure some of y'all will still be apologetic to his points and continue your racist tendencies. And that's ok, cause this is America. But at least have the decency to admit that instead of scapegoating science to justify your bigotry.
This post was edited on 4/27/15 at 11:59 am
Posted on 4/27/15 at 12:05 pm to Goldrush25
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For instance, two people can note a valid correlation of crime with minority population densities in certain regions and reach different conclusions as to why those conditions exist. I disagree with his conclusion, that doesn't make the observation invalid. Hope that makes sense.
Yes, but specifically which observations in the OP are valid?
Posted on 4/27/15 at 12:06 pm to Masterag
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If his hypothesis is correct, then it should logically follow that these immigrants would show similar rates of poverty, education, violence as native born blacks. However, they are more likely per capita than native born whites to: 1. Not be arrested or convicted for a violent crime 2. Graduate from HS. 3. Graduate from college. 4. Attain a graduate degree.
Boom. There goes the dynamite.
Posted on 4/27/15 at 12:12 pm to Masterag
I have no idea what you and your Aggie buddy can't see. But of course, make yourself feel better by calling those not "offended" as racist or bigots.
If you think liberal social engineering programs are working well,fine. I don't. And to counter your comments, then I guess you are a "bed wetter."
Certainly there is some validity to the claim or assertation to institutional racism. If given a choice I would imagine most people would prefer to be born in the suburbs as innercity. But its not "racist" to not want to blame everything negative in the innercity on "whitey" . Many failures in the innercity , jail time,out of wed-lock births are due to poor attitudes and apathy.
If you want to hold the inner-city unaccountable for many bad decisions, go for it. But those who question the same old,same old but "leadership and one's one actions are racist.
If you think liberal social engineering programs are working well,fine. I don't. And to counter your comments, then I guess you are a "bed wetter."
Certainly there is some validity to the claim or assertation to institutional racism. If given a choice I would imagine most people would prefer to be born in the suburbs as innercity. But its not "racist" to not want to blame everything negative in the innercity on "whitey" . Many failures in the innercity , jail time,out of wed-lock births are due to poor attitudes and apathy.
If you want to hold the inner-city unaccountable for many bad decisions, go for it. But those who question the same old,same old but "leadership and one's one actions are racist.
Posted on 4/27/15 at 12:15 pm to Masterag
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Nobody alive today suffered from the effects of slavery.
Actually, slavery is more prevalent today then ever
Posted on 4/27/15 at 12:18 pm to I-59 Tiger
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If you think liberal social engineering programs are working well,fine.
What does this even mean? Any examples of what you're talking about here?
Posted on 4/27/15 at 12:22 pm to I-59 Tiger
Dude. You're completely missing the point. From what do you gather that I don't want said demographic to hold themselves accountable for their actions, or that I think social engineering programs are working at the status quo?
I could write a book about how govt programs and forced integration have ruined the black community and destroyed the black middle class; But that is not the point.
I could write a book about how govt programs and forced integration have ruined the black community and destroyed the black middle class; But that is not the point.
Posted on 4/27/15 at 4:22 pm to Masterag
This thread went as expected.
Keep preaching, Masterag
Keep preaching, Masterag
Posted on 4/27/15 at 4:28 pm to TbirdSpur2010
Why do you and Masterag hate black people so much?
Posted on 4/27/15 at 4:40 pm to TbirdSpur2010
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Tbird
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Keep preaching, Masterag
Posted on 4/27/15 at 4:49 pm to TbirdSpur2010
lots of racism but stereotypes aren't always racist. Sometimes they're true.
Like, black people are athletic. That's just true. There's research studies on it.
Asians are smarter. I could probably find a link or 2.
The issue is when the stereotype has hatred hidden in it's context. THAT'S what I view as racism.
I mean, this is the actual definition of racism
So reading that definition, how is what four three forty said racist?
Like, black people are athletic. That's just true. There's research studies on it.
Asians are smarter. I could probably find a link or 2.
The issue is when the stereotype has hatred hidden in it's context. THAT'S what I view as racism.
I mean, this is the actual definition of racism
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a person who believes that a particular race is superior to another.
So reading that definition, how is what four three forty said racist?
Posted on 4/27/15 at 5:11 pm to cas4t
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stereotypes aren't always racist. Sometimes they're true
That's called "prejudice."
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black people are athletic. That's just true. There's research studies on it
no research needed. american slaves were literally bred to work harder and faster. But not all blacks in the world are descended from slaves.
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Asians are smarter
Are they? Is it nature or nurture? What asian demographic are we speaking of?
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how is what four three forty said racist?
I didn't say it was racist, I said it was fricking stupid.
Posted on 4/27/15 at 5:53 pm to Vols&Shaft83
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Why do you and Masterag hate black people so much?
Dey be hoardin' th' melanin
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