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re: racism will never end

Posted on 11/9/15 at 8:20 am to
Posted by SavageOrangeJug
Member since Oct 2005
19758 posts
Posted on 11/9/15 at 8:20 am to
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I absolutely despised George Zimmerman and his supporters but I understand him now.

So you despised a man for defending himself after a racist thug violently attacked him?
Posted by SmokeTide
Gulf Coast Alabama
Member since Nov 2015
5287 posts
Posted on 11/9/15 at 8:20 am to
The questions and answers lie somewhere between. I'm a proud black educated man also. People form their perspective on what they see and experienced, I don't fault anyone on how they feel about of it. You can't ignore what "some" of us do either, but at the same time you can't allow how or what other say bother you in the pursuit of your life goals.
Posted by yaboytoococky
Member since Feb 2013
59 posts
Posted on 11/9/15 at 8:20 am to
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OP, I think that the problem people have with African American leadership is how they try to make every problem a race problem. This obscures more important issues because once the race card has been played, it overshadows all other discussion. From the outside looking in, it seems that certain people who are in a position of power because of leading roles they took during the Civil Rights movement feel that they need to kept beating the racism drum or they will become irrelevant, and so they react to everything like its 1965 Birmingham and people's right to vote is being threatened, not 2015 with a second-term black president in office. Calling for a university president to resign because some students were called mean words on the way to class is ridiculous, and further calling for him to publicly acknowledge his "white privilege" is clear race-baiting. 

There are legitimate social problems connected to some of these issues, such as poverty begetting poverty and lack of low-education employment that would help people in those circumstances improve their lot and take a step towards social mobility, which are not racial problems. Trying to turn them into racial problems prevents rational discussion of them, and is itself racist. Don't you find the conflation of the terms "poor" and "black" insulting? It is African American leadership that continues to push the viewpoint that one implies the other, for their own self-serving benefit.


I agree. AA leadership is severely lacking on a national scale, but their are some great leaders at the grass roots level. We are getting people registered to vote. Helping young AA to apply to colleges. Helping them study for their SAT's... and much, much more. Their are now more African American men in college than in prison.
Posted by biglego
Ask your mom where I been
Member since Nov 2007
76260 posts
Posted on 11/9/15 at 8:21 am to
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I am an educated, proud, Christian black man, and it sickens me to read how many on this board feel about black people. The saddest part is that it seems mostly based on stereotypes. STEREOTYPES!! In 2015

Awesome. I'm an atheist white man. We should hang out sometime.
Posted by 5Alive
With Your Moms
Member since Jul 2009
7659 posts
Posted on 11/9/15 at 8:21 am to
Bravo brother bravo. I'm with u!
Posted by footswitch
New Market
Member since Apr 2015
3900 posts
Posted on 11/9/15 at 8:24 am to
Oh you can say the"N" word because you're black. Who made that rule into law? Is that why we can have black entertainment TV,NAACP,black colleges and that shite is politically correct. All I get from those examples is hypocrisy.

Poor poor oppressed people.
Posted by Sampson
Chicago
Member since Mar 2012
24561 posts
Posted on 11/9/15 at 8:24 am to
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I am an educated


quote:

I seen


Interesting. Also, you're a pathetic cry baby. Grow a pair.
Posted by yaboytoococky
Member since Feb 2013
59 posts
Posted on 11/9/15 at 8:25 am to
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Guess what, a-hole? 

Everybody else has student debt as well. The fact you are Black does not entitle you to everything being on someone else's dime. 


What are you talking about? You're obviously a complete idiot or you lack comprehension skills.
Posted by pvilleguru
Member since Jun 2009
60453 posts
Posted on 11/9/15 at 8:26 am to
Please tell me you don't support this protest.
Posted by tedmarkuson
texas
Member since Feb 2015
2592 posts
Posted on 11/9/15 at 8:27 am to
Sorry pard national statistics are not your friend.

As for me I stopped listeny to the Zimmerman nonsense the moment I heard the 911 operating tell him to stay in his car and he ignored her. Had he simply listened no one would have died. I'm 54 and I've never killed anybody but I listen to the police! Amazing no?

I stopped listening to the Michael Brown bullschit when I saw him pick up the clerk by his neck. What do you guys have against Koreans?

The difference for me friend is I know bullschit when I see it.
Posted by SmokeTide
Gulf Coast Alabama
Member since Nov 2015
5287 posts
Posted on 11/9/15 at 8:27 am to
Lmao..dude was profiled, I don't think Zimmerman was racist, but clearly he instigated the situation. He has been arrested twice since for violent acts after the fact....go figure.
This post was edited on 11/9/15 at 8:30 am
Posted by MontyFranklyn
T-Town
Member since Jan 2012
23830 posts
Posted on 11/9/15 at 8:28 am to
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Sorry pard national statistics are not your friend.

As for me I stopped listeny to the Zimmerman nonsense the moment I heard the 911 operating tell him to stay in his car and he ignored her. Had he simply listened no one would have died. I'm 54 and I've never killed anybody but I listen to the police! Amazing no?

I stopped listening to the Michael Brown bullschit when I saw him pick up the clerk by his neck. What do you guys have against Koreans?

The difference for me friend is I know bullschit when I see it.
I agree with all of this.
Posted by Sampson
Chicago
Member since Mar 2012
24561 posts
Posted on 11/9/15 at 8:28 am to
Nobody cares about you or your feelings.
Posted by yaboytoococky
Member since Feb 2013
59 posts
Posted on 11/9/15 at 8:31 am to
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Interesting. Also, you're a pathetic cry baby. Grow a pair.



I have already acknowledged my grammatical errors. Also, I can promise you that I already have a fully grown and functional "pair"
Posted by Lonnie Utah
Utah!
Member since Jul 2012
23894 posts
Posted on 11/9/15 at 8:32 am to
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Stereotypes exist for a reason bro.


And are perpetuated for others... .
Posted by RazorBroncs
Harding Bisons Fan
Member since Sep 2013
13535 posts
Posted on 11/9/15 at 8:33 am to
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It's easy to dismiss racism, when you're in the position of privilege. Just so you know, not ALL white are blind to the situation.


Good post, aside from the fact that "privilege" is getting to be a pretty shitty word to use in this situation. I'm a 28 year old white male and I have fought for literally everything in my life. My parents were (and still are) hard working individuals of Polish parents that nearly killed themselves working to put a little food on the table and a roof over our heads. Their parents (my grandparents) were all refugees from Poland at one time, running from the Nazis and eventually joining the American forces in the war against them and later becoming professors.

Not one part of even my distant relatives had anything to do with slavery, they weren't even in the country. Their families were all dying because of the Nazi presence in their home town and home country. The relatives that weren't immediately killed were sent to camps. Out of 30+ family members that my grandpa knew of, only himself and his brother Marian made it out alive. His brother later became mayor of Warsaw, followed by the minister of defense, and later Head of State (the president). Their social status and environment didn't stop them from doing great things, and their people were part of the few on this earth that actually experienced something far worse than slavery. You think people see this when they look at me, or do they just see a young, white, privileged male?

We didn't get toys at Walmart when we asked growing up, so we eventually stopped asking. Seeing the other kids at Walmart throwing a fit for whatever they wanted became a joke amongst my family, we always said that those kids would grow up to be shitty people because they don't know what it's like to value something you worked hard for. I got my first car because I got a job busting my arse washing dishes in a Mexican restaurant when I was 14 and saved up, not because my parents bought me one. The only way I could afford things was to bust my arse working for them, and usually it was some sort of shitty manual labor like working as a greens keeper on a golf course throughout the 100+ degree Arkansas summers or working in a warehouse. When I wanted to go to college for 8 years, guess who would have to come up with the money (and is still coming up with the money) to pay for what the scholarships wouldn't cover?

I say all that to say this: I am a young white male that has never known what this "privilege" word that keeps getting thrown in our faces is. My family had absolutely zero to do with slavery, in fact most of my ancestors were persecuted, forced into slavery and starvation, and killed for their appearance (they weren't even Jews, just looked like they were). You think these protesters would look at me and see my family's history? Or would they just assume that since I'm a white male I must have some sort of privileged life where jobs and possessions are just thrown at my feet? I worked hard for anything I've accomplished and earned in life and all my possessions just like my grandparents did.

My hate is for those who do the opposite, who think they can abuse the system and live off of other people's earnings and hard work because they're lazy or feel like they're owed as much. There's just as many or more white trash people that I hate for this very reason, they all make me cringe. Blaming your surroundings for failure is a weak excuse when there's so many others, black and white, that have succeeded in this same face of adversity, my grandparents and parents included.

A lot of these people don't realize that they're doing it to themselves with their actions too. You think I want to hire a guy that publicly went on hunger strike and is actively trying to kill himself to get a man, one of his superiors, fired? Doesn't matter what color he is or if his hunger strike was deserved or not; if I'm a manager I'm seeing that and thinking about all the little, unintentional things around my office that could offend someone like that and I'm not touching his job application with a 10 foot pole.
This post was edited on 11/9/15 at 9:08 am
Posted by mizzoukills
Member since Aug 2011
40686 posts
Posted on 11/9/15 at 8:34 am to
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I have a white wife.



That's like saying, "I have a black friend," and then the black community calls that black friend an Uncle Tom or Token while ostracizing him for choosing to hang out with whites.


Hmmmmmmm?
Posted by mizzoukills
Member since Aug 2011
40686 posts
Posted on 11/9/15 at 8:35 am to
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Obviously grammar isn't my strength



Yet you bitch about unfair stereotypes...
Posted by No Colors
Sandbar
Member since Sep 2010
10363 posts
Posted on 11/9/15 at 8:36 am to
If I owned two types of horses, I would ride the quarterhorse and put my kid on the pony.

They're both horses, but I understand that different types are better for different things. They have different behavioral tendencies.

Stereotypes don't usually originate from ignorance. They originate from experience. And they're fairly won.
Posted by mizzoukills
Member since Aug 2011
40686 posts
Posted on 11/9/15 at 8:38 am to
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but their are some great leaders at the grass roots level. We are getting people registered to vote



First off...your grammar and spelling is atrocious.

Secondly, your community is registering people to vote for the party that keeps you down and perpetually misinformed.

Sure, vote for the party that has zero interest in you succeeding as a black man. Vote for the party that wants you to be a criminal. Vote for the party that would encourage you to suck off the government while rejecting personal responsibility.

Stereotype?
This post was edited on 11/9/15 at 8:39 am
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