re: Quote: "Call me Caitlyn," .....

Another wacky kardashian

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Bruce Jenner is not a homosexual (which is epigenetic in its expression, not genetic). I personally wouldn't put him into the Gender Identification Disorder (GID) category either. Nor is he asexual.

He has lived the vast majority of his life as a randy heterosexual. The man has been married 3 times and has fathered 6 children. A very good looking Olympic champion, Mr. Jenner has been in the saddle of far more women than most of us could ever hope to be. He prefers women as his sexual partners.

There's another prominent American who is "transitioning" to a female gender, Martine Rothblatt. You'll just have to watch the video to understand this person's view of life. A sentence in this post could never hope to do it justice. I promise that the video is titilating.

In both cases, I think these now middle-aged men are simply mentally unbalanced due to a tremendous affliction of narcissism. True GID is so overpowering, from birth, that the child will either express his or her affectations despite condemnation or will react in some horrible demonstration of self-destruction.

Leelah Alcorn, the 16-year-old who threw herself in front of an 18-wheeler in Cincinnati recently, is an example of GID. Her parents denied the reality of her condition even after her suicide. What does it take to get through to some people?

Yes, both Jenner and Rothblatt remain heterosexual in their orientations. Their choices to become more physically like the objects of their desires seems more like a bizarre mental condition than the often tragic GID.

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I really haven't tried to pay any attention to it, but as long as Bruce chooses to keep his penis and not blow dudes he isn't legit..

So is "Caitlyn" now a lesbian in sexual orientation or just Fubar?

Hell yeah.. We finally agree on some gay shite.

So is he tucking it?

i spot a bulge

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But I would put money on it that a lot of fundies would argue that someone with a 46th chromosome shouldn't have sex reassignment surgery because "god doesn't make mistakes" and if the parents chose a gender, that's how it should be.

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Fundamentalist religious opinion is again, not the issue here. We are talking about mental illness and proscribing genital mutilation on the basis of social belief.

Hermaphrodites are NOT mentally ill. They have biological deformities, much like down syndrome. No one is arguing for a ban on corrective surgeries or reclassification of anyone with disabilities to be banned.

Bruce Jenner does not have any physically female characteristics. He does not have ovaries. He does not have a vagina, nor was he born with one. He has 1 Y chromosome. Bruce Jenner is a man, 100%, with a mental illness. The current promotion of genital mutilation as a treatment for mental illness is on the same level as the proscription of lobotomization for people with Schizophrenia in the 19th century. Physical mutilation has never been a humane treatment for the mentally ill, and yet psychiatry continues to find new ways to inflict it on the most vulnerable of society. What is being done in the name of 'gender freedom' is insane, inhumane, and repulsive. If Bruce Jenner believed himself to be a dog, would anyone argue he should have his fingers cut off and his pelvis broken so that he would more closely resemble a dog to an observer?

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That poor woman, an obvious victim of the Patriarchy, being forced into a traditional gender role, expected to have perfect skin, long hair, and wear clothing that accentuates her breasts.

Gender is a social construct.

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Good ish right here.

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That's so close-minded, bigoted and racist.

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Nope. if he's gonna be a drag queen, be awarded for being a drag queen. And dude is white. He still has his privilege along with his pecker. so not racist.