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Posted on 6/2/15 at 6:35 pm to Pavoloco83
Posted on 6/2/15 at 6:35 pm to Pavoloco83
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Nope. if he's gonna be a drag queen, be awarded for being a drag queen. And dude is white. He still has his privilege along with his pecker. so not racist.
I was j/k
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Posted on 6/2/15 at 6:51 pm to Pavoloco83
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Nope. if he's gonna be a drag queen, be awarded for being a drag queen. And dude is white. He still has his privilege along with his pecker. so not racist.
Not so fast my friend. There was a white drag queen who used to do black drag in memory of the black women that raised him and he went through all kinds of racism from the opposite side. Think of a white guy in drag doing Madea and from what I heard he was pretty realistic in his mad black woman impersonation.
Posted on 6/2/15 at 7:59 pm to scrooster
I'm still shocked that this has traction.
I think the response to this kind of celebrity culture is more embarrassing than him coming out as a woman.
I think the response to this kind of celebrity culture is more embarrassing than him coming out as a woman.
Posted on 6/2/15 at 8:23 pm to StrawsDrawnAtRandom
I think of it as social rubbernecking. Like a car wreck, you want to look away but you can't help yourself.
This is a life wreck in many of our opinions and we take it in by figuratively peeking through the fingers of our hands that cover our faces.
Jenner knows that what he is doing titilates the prurient interests of the public. His new reality show on E! will make millions for him.
This is a life wreck in many of our opinions and we take it in by figuratively peeking through the fingers of our hands that cover our faces.
Jenner knows that what he is doing titilates the prurient interests of the public. His new reality show on E! will make millions for him.
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Posted on 6/2/15 at 8:31 pm to Kentucker
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Jenner knows that what he is doing titilates the prurient interests of the public.
By public you mean the the ones who let themselves be manipultaed so easily?
I have no interest in the current reality show he is on, much less any other realty show in his new girly attire.
Posted on 6/2/15 at 8:36 pm to Cheese Grits
If he's not pursuing the surgery is he really transgender? From a publicity standpoint, transgender garnishes sympathy while just being a transvesite gives you ridicule.
This post was edited on 6/2/15 at 8:37 pm
Posted on 6/2/15 at 8:47 pm to Kentucker
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I think of it as social rubbernecking. Like a car wreck, you want to look away but you can't help yourself.
This is a life wreck in many of our opinions and we take it in by figuratively peeking through the fingers of our hands that cover our faces.
Jenner knows that what he is doing titilates the prurient interests of the public. His new reality show on E! will make millions for him.
I'm perfectly content in not looking at this, and really I wasn't even going to comment until I saw some of the reactions in the thread. ''(S)he wants attention, let's give it to them.''
I guess this just doesn't shock me enough, but I think the culprit is my age. I didn't really know much about him.
Posted on 6/2/15 at 9:00 pm to GaTiger77
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If he's not pursuing the surgery is he really transgender? From a publicity standpoint, transgender garnishes sympathy while just being a transvesite gives you ridicule.
No, he isn't transgender. That's the current buzzword that a lot of crossdressers are using to garner sympathy that they manipulate to their advantages.
Having one's sexual organ surgically altered is a monumental step that only the most severe of GID cases wish to undergo. Mere narcississists such as Jenner have no interest in going that far.
Posted on 6/2/15 at 9:02 pm to Kentucker
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No, he isn't transgender.
If we're going by current psychological profiles -- he is transgendered, he is not transsexual.
Transgender, I thought, encompasses all of those who are the opposite gender of what they portray.
A male who lives his life as a female (externally) is still a transgender, and a male who has hormone therapy and surgery is considered transsexual.
Posted on 6/2/15 at 9:08 pm to StrawsDrawnAtRandom
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I'm perfectly content in not looking at this, and really I wasn't even going to comment until I saw some of the reactions in the thread. ''(S)he wants attention, let's give it to them.''
Good on you. You've made your life interesting enough without having to include the voyeurism of other people's experiences. Most people, it seems, don't do that.
That's why social media is so rampant with "egossip." It's also why people like Jenner can have careers as "reality show" stars.
It isn't a good commentary about our human condition, that's for sure.
Posted on 6/3/15 at 8:28 pm to scrooster
Posted on 6/4/15 at 11:32 am to Cheese Grits
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Think of a white guy in drag doing Madea and from what I heard he was pretty realistic in his mad black woman impersonation.
Didnt Eddie Murphy do a movie where he was made up as an old white jewish guy?
Posted on 6/4/15 at 11:34 am to StrawsDrawnAtRandom
But what if he is a dude chromsomally, externally etc. but decides he's a "woman" and dresses up as a woman?
Thats a transvestite is it not. THats what Jenner is.
Thats a transvestite is it not. THats what Jenner is.
Posted on 6/4/15 at 12:17 pm to Pavoloco83
That's what I've been thinking. But he would not get sympathy as a tranny so if he is labeled transgender, everybody is rooting for him. I'm telling y'all this is the best publicity stunt in a long while.
Posted on 6/4/15 at 12:31 pm to GaTiger77
I bet that if Michael Jackson had lived long enough eventually he would have had his dick cut off and become a woman too.
Posted on 6/4/15 at 12:42 pm to scrooster
When I first saw this I thought it was a bad Carly Rae Jepsen song.
Posted on 6/4/15 at 12:57 pm to scrooster
Call me crazy, but I don't think thats Bruce Jenner.
Hear me out on this. These days it is practically impossible to fake your own death. If you were in Bruce's shoes and wanted to get away from the succubi that are the kardashians, faking your death is improbable. But what if you concoct this whole media frenzie about a sex change, let the tabloids eat it up for a couple months, and get seen in public with long hair and nail polish on. It would then be possible to find some old washed up wannabe actress who failed at life to step into your shoes as the new "you" after "surgery"
With that person taking over your old/new life and the media frenzy to follow, you could slip quietly down to some Caribbean or central American country and live life out of the microscope. People will always say "hey you look like Bruce Jenner used to look" ya'll could laugh it off and no one would ever know.
Genius.
Hear me out on this. These days it is practically impossible to fake your own death. If you were in Bruce's shoes and wanted to get away from the succubi that are the kardashians, faking your death is improbable. But what if you concoct this whole media frenzie about a sex change, let the tabloids eat it up for a couple months, and get seen in public with long hair and nail polish on. It would then be possible to find some old washed up wannabe actress who failed at life to step into your shoes as the new "you" after "surgery"
With that person taking over your old/new life and the media frenzy to follow, you could slip quietly down to some Caribbean or central American country and live life out of the microscope. People will always say "hey you look like Bruce Jenner used to look" ya'll could laugh it off and no one would ever know.
Genius.
Posted on 6/4/15 at 2:40 pm to StrawsDrawnAtRandom
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If we're going by current psychological profiles -- he is transgendered, he is not transsexual.
Transgender, I thought, encompasses all of those who are the opposite gender of what they portray.
A male who lives his life as a female (externally) is still a transgender, and a male who has hormone therapy and surgery is considered transsexual.
You are, as always, correct.
My only contention with using the term transgender centers on my sympathy for children who exhibit gender identification disorder, GID. In every case I've examined, the child is so traumatized by the stress from social stigma that he or she acts out in some way. It is all too often a self-destructive act.
Jenner was not affected that way. He has lived a life as a typical heterosexual and still states his preference for women. Quite the opposite of being self-destructive, he became famous as an Olympic athlete and parlayed this public esteem into a life full of beautiful women and success.
I just can't peg him with a GID label. Rather, I think the man has a narcissistic personality disorder. His obsession with women has led him to think, in my opinion, that he can be a better woman than they can.
Posted on 6/4/15 at 2:46 pm to Pavoloco83
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I bet that if Michael Jackson had lived long enough eventually he would have had his dick cut off and become a woman too.
All the evidence points to Jackson having been a pedophile, not a trans anything.
Posted on 6/4/15 at 4:19 pm to Kentucker
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I just can't peg him with a GID label. Rather, I think the man has a narcissistic personality disorder. His obsession with women has led him to think, in my opinion, that he can be a better woman than they can.
While I needn't preface this: Neither of us are psychologists, but I think you may be onto something regarding that. It sort of reminds me of novelists who tell their stories from the perspective of the opposite gender, but do a very poor job because of the obvious lack of required knowledge.
Just as an addendum: I don't agree with the label of transgender in general, it just, as pointed out, sounds better. The gay, transgender position of psychology is the only part that I really, really abhor.
I've never seen a therapy that seeks, instead of reversing the ailment, to enable it. Doctors and therapists alike never prescribe knives to better cut yourself, so it bothers me that they encourage living as the opposite gender in spite of obvious biological inhibitors.
The psychological research into gay and transgendered studies is too afraid to offend people rather than say what's physiologically objective.
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