re: Obama's Farewell Address and what you will remember him for.

lol it cracks me up how you deny you vote Democrat. you the biggest party guy on here.

i don't recall comparing bush to OBama but i don't think Obama is a good public speaker and he obviously very dependent on teleprompter and he stutters a lot without one.

i think he's a boring speaker in general and he's wrong about most everything. basically all he does is talk aobut himself and virtue signal.

you are one of the people who insists people must think Obama is a good public speaker. it is interesting that is so important to you. i care more about what their stances are on issues , not their public speaking skills.

i can criticize GOP all day. but i don't deny being a conservative or voting GOP, as you deny you are a liberal and vote Democrat despite using standard democrat / liberal talking points.

liberals in bama just as liberal as anywhere else. any PP cheerleader is as liberal as it gets. don't sell yourself short. lol

anyway, i don't kno why i'm talking to you. it is like talking to the grim reaper. lol adios.

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i don't recall comparing bush to OBama

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Never said you did.

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i don't think Obama is a good public speaker and he obviously very dependent on teleprompter and he stutters a lot without one.

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Not really true, tbh. I've been in the room with Obama when he's delivered a speech sans teleprompter. His cadence really doesn't lend itself to excessive stuttering--he's quite measured in his delivery.

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i think he's a boring speaker in general and he's wrong about most everything.

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Boring is subjective. And his being wrong (or in the wrong) the majority of the time has nothing to do with his speaking ability. Actually, if you think about it, it kind of bolsters the case that he's a good speaker when he can be so blatantly wrong/divisive and still get people to lap up his bullshite.

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you are one of the people who insists people must think Obama is a good public speaker. it is interesting that is so important to you.

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What's weird is that by any objective metric, he's a damn polished speaker; yet, because he's a democrat, you can't even give him that. You've taken an intellectually dishonest stance.

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i care more about what their stances are on issues , not their public speaking skills.

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As do I. That doesn't mean that I feel the need to besmirch a good speaker because I disagree with his views.

Don't be such a simple person.

do you teach a public speaking course or something? lol

i sincerely don't think he's a great public speaker. i think the way he speaks is weird in general. the cadence. it doesn't sound natural, similar to HIllary.

i'm focused more on substance, not style but his style is boring and aloof. in my view, Trump is a great public speaker b/c he's so funny and he's conversational and brings up topics in the news that day.

obama's so scripted.

somebody dour like you would never get the scandalous DJT's humor. lol

even when trump's not joking, he's funny to me. his natural mannerisms. i look forward to him being the president if only for the entertainment aspect. his press conferences are more entertaining than most movies and tv shows.

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Then you're a poor, biased judge.

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did you major in a liberal arts program? i think liberal arts types view Obama as a eloquent speaker but STEM people tend to view him as boring.

the man literally reads every word of a speech of a teleprompter. how can he be a great public speaker. lol

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here's a funny clip of Obama speaking.

i thought one of the big things in toastmasters was to eliminate filler words like um, uh.

obama is the king of filler words while speaking. lol

he was busted lip syncing a speech, as shown in that video i linked to. lol who lip syncs a speech? u guys say he's the GOAT public speaker but he lip synced a speech.

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u guys say he's the GOAT public speaker

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Nope.