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re: Obama's Farewell Address and what you will remember him for.

Posted on 1/17/17 at 8:28 pm to
Posted by TeLeFaWx
Dallas, TX
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Posted on 1/17/17 at 8:28 pm to
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you are repetitive and dull and passive aggressive.


Posted by Tropic Lightning
South Florida
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Posted on 1/17/17 at 9:00 pm to
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Meh. Maybe. I don't know enough about it to form and opinion.



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Posted by TeLeFaWx
Dallas, TX
Member since Aug 2011
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Posted on 1/17/17 at 9:03 pm to
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Check it out, your Truth Journey begins.


Is this going to be an Alex Jones/InfoWars type adventure?
Posted by Tropic Lightning
South Florida
Member since Nov 2006
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Posted on 1/17/17 at 9:10 pm to
Only if you want it to be.

That documentary is just the CIA directors talking shop to the extent they can.

Mostly honest men I think but, Carters guy is super creepy and too soon to tell about Brennan.

I found Leon Poneta, H.W., Coffer Black, and Petraus most honest.
Posted by TeLeFaWx
Dallas, TX
Member since Aug 2011
29177 posts
Posted on 1/17/17 at 9:11 pm to
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Only if you want it to be.

That documentary is just the CIA directors talking shop to the extent they can.

Mostly honest men I think but, Carters guy is super creepy and too soon to tell about Brennan.

I found Leon Poneta, H.W., Coffer Black, and Petraus most honest.


Interesting. I'll give it a shot.
Posted by Carolina Tide
Atlanta
Member since Jul 2013
5747 posts
Posted on 1/17/17 at 9:26 pm to
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irst off, and most importantly, he's mixed. Not "oh I'm a sixteenth Irish way back down the line," but the direct offspring of one white parent and one black parent. The fact that he eschewed that heritage in favor of embracing the more politically expedient, archaic "one drop rule" perspective of being black is, frankly, reprehensible. In and of itself, that was an egregious blow to racial harmony.


Are you saying he played up his "black card" in order to pander to black voters? I don't think that's being fair and you're belittling the intelligence of literally millions of people of varying degrees of education. Not to mention the whole "vote for me! I'm black!" Didn't really work out so well when Jessie Jackson ran in the 80s. He can't downplay his racial makeup, and seeing how he married a black women, has browned skinned daughters and is basically my color it's probably easy to assume that he self identifies more with his black side anyway.

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His incessant interjection into racially divisive matters is a horrible precedent that helped stoke racial fires already burning. Additionally, the advent of his presidency further entrenched racial identity politics. The political dialogue has deteriorated significantly along racial lines since he's been in office.


Obama was the first man of color who was the president of the United States, meaning that there was no guide he could've follow to show him what was the "right" way to discuss racial issues as a black president. More importantly we as a country had no idea how a black president would or even SHOULD react, seeing as our past 43 presidents were white and all.

So we all have this completely new and totally different perspective talking about issues that large portions of the country never had to deal with and probably never even knew about. Some people didn't understand it, a lot of people didn't like that. I think it was inevitable no matter who the first black president was. The fact that Obama's first racial "incedent" (other than the birther crap) was Trayvon Martin near the end of his first term was astounding. I was expecting something between his first two years.

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m not blaming him for all of our strife as a country on that front, but his conduct didn't help matters. At all.


And I'm not saying he was a perfect president by any means, but for someone who was dealing with being the first black president coupled with the fact that racial tensions were at an all time low and dealing an uptick in protests and racial violence from all sides I'd say he handled it as good as anyone could in that situation. I'm not saying that he did a good or bad job, I just feel like there aren't many people who could have done better.


This post was edited on 1/17/17 at 10:21 pm
Posted by Vols&Shaft83
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Posted on 1/17/17 at 9:53 pm to
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Are you saying he played up his "black card" in order to pander to black voters?


He played the black card to pander to young white people who feel guilty for being white.


And I have no problem belittling their intelligence because they are idiots.
Posted by TbirdSpur2010
ALAMO CITY
Member since Dec 2010
134026 posts
Posted on 1/17/17 at 10:08 pm to
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Are you saying he played up his "black card" in order to pander to black voters?


I'm saying he played up his "black card" to pander to voters in general, not just black.

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the whole "vote for me! I'm black!" Didn't really work too well when Jessie Jackson ran in the 80s.


MUCH different political landscape in 2008 than in the 80s.

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for someone who was dealing with being the first black president coupled with the fact that racial tensions were at an all time low and dealing an uptick in protests and racial violence from all sides I'd say he handled it as good as anyone could in that situation. I'm not saying that he did a good or bad job, I just feel like there aren't many people who could have done better.


I respect your opinion--it's just mine that I believe he could have and should have done much better

Of course, I'll admit my bias.

Posted by 3nOut
Central Texas, TX
Member since Jan 2013
28780 posts
Posted on 1/18/17 at 4:56 pm to
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nd I'm not saying he was a perfect president by any means, but for someone who was dealing with being the first black president coupled with the fact that racial tensions were at an all time low and dealing an uptick in protests and racial violence from all sides I'd say he handled it as good as anyone could in that situation. I'm not saying that he did a good or bad job, I just feel like there aren't many people who could have done better.


Racial tensions weren't that bad when he took office. He inserted himself in the worst ways he could have by taking sides. I blame Holder more than him though. My biggest complaint.

ETA: there were some racist assholes on the other side that probably exasperated issues as well.
This post was edited on 1/18/17 at 5:00 pm
Posted by TeLeFaWx
Dallas, TX
Member since Aug 2011
29177 posts
Posted on 1/18/17 at 7:46 pm to
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He played the black card to pander to young white people who feel guilty for being white.



The Left's social movement was their winning ticket for so long, but now the well is dry for a lot of older people that are white and have shitty cubicle jobs and don't have time to waste virtue signaling. However, they have suckered a ton of rich spoiled youth in to this white privilege narrative and it's terrifying. If someone described "Social Justice Warriors" to me a couple of years ago, I would have thought it was a joke, and something high school kids did instead of being emo or something. But no. Legitimate adults believe this bullshite too. And there are SO many of them. It's fricking weird man, and if Trump fricks up and the pendulum swings back in their direction, I'll be scared for the future of this country.
This post was edited on 1/18/17 at 7:50 pm
Posted by Tropic Lightning
South Florida
Member since Nov 2006
923 posts
Posted on 1/18/17 at 8:27 pm to
I actually like my cube....I just wish my building had at least one window for me to look out.

No matter what, no Republican set himself on fire outside Obama's house in protest.

The Left has lost the plot....
Posted by samson73103
Krypton
Member since Nov 2008
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Posted on 1/18/17 at 8:28 pm to
Obama = Race Baiter
Posted by cas4t
Member since Jan 2010
70878 posts
Posted on 1/19/17 at 12:40 pm to
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Racial tensions weren't that bad when he took office.


just, wow.
Posted by TbirdSpur2010
ALAMO CITY
Member since Dec 2010
134026 posts
Posted on 1/19/17 at 4:57 pm to
They really weren't, in my experience
Posted by BlackPawnMartyr
Houston, TX
Member since Dec 2010
15275 posts
Posted on 1/19/17 at 5:10 pm to
Race baiter and Chief. Also bigly opponent to cleaner climate as he sent more US production to massively pollutant unmonitored Chinese foreign factories. Huge hater of progressive women and gay values shown by his push for bringing angry Muslims into this country. Will go down as bottom 5 president in history.
Posted by Tillman
Member since May 2016
12363 posts
Posted on 1/19/17 at 5:47 pm to
hopefully we won't have to hear about racism in general once Trump is president. people can disagree with DJT without being accused of racism, etc.

i'm so happy that i won't have to hear obama's annoying voice that much anymore. unfortunately he's probably not going to disappear like the Bush presidents.
This post was edited on 1/19/17 at 5:50 pm
Posted by Sleeping Tiger
Member since Sep 2013
8488 posts
Posted on 1/19/17 at 5:57 pm to
There's this thing called empathy, it involves seeing and feeling the world from others perspectives.

From YOUR perspective nobody can accuse Trump of being racist.

But from others perspective they will see his moves as racist.

Trump is a huge log on the race tension fire.

Obama's voice isn't annoying.

Grow out of your current level of consciousness. Evolve. See more.
Posted by Tillman
Member since May 2016
12363 posts
Posted on 1/19/17 at 5:59 pm to
you guys accuse people of racism for political reasons. it isn't sincere. it is a way to discredit political opponents.

for you, 'evolve' means, think like you do. be a leftwinger.

obama's voice, the pitch and cadence of his speech, is annoying to me and many others.

Obama in my view is a racist and would stoke racial tension to get out the black vote.

in my opinion, he should have been impeached for saying Trayvon Martin could have been his son. he was trying to bias the jurors and Zimmerman would have rightly had a case that it was not a fair trail if he was found guilty.
This post was edited on 1/19/17 at 6:03 pm
Posted by cas4t
Member since Jan 2010
70878 posts
Posted on 1/19/17 at 6:01 pm to
2003 had the most impactful affirmative action court decision in the history of race relations, period. It caused quite the backlash from white folks.
Posted by Sleeping Tiger
Member since Sep 2013
8488 posts
Posted on 1/19/17 at 6:03 pm to
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Tillman


I wonder if you might have a hint at the level of totally fricked you are?

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