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TeLeFaWx
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Dallas, TX
Member since Aug 2011
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Obama's Farewell Address and what you will remember him for.
Caught the last 20-30 minutes. Because of the SJWs I view everything through the lens of their agenda, so I didn't really like a lot of the points, but it wasn't that bad otherwise. I think a lot of the speech was meant to be "even handed" but given the cheers, it felt more left wing than it probably was. He really is an amazing orator. While I find Trump entertaining and a breath of fresh air, we are definitely losing something in that department. Obama is an all time public speaker. I think people will study him for years.

As far as his legacy, I think we will look back at his Administration as one of ineffectiveness and divisiveness, but I don't know how much of that to pin directly on him, or just the inmates running the asylum. "Obamacare" was really just a few overarching points, and then Pelosi and her cronies and donors filling in the next thousand pages. Easily one of the worst pieces of legislature ever written, the hallmark of his Presidency, and ironically enough, it was designed largely out of his control. However, it also got the ball rolling on fixing health care in the system. It established something for the Republicans to have in place that might not be popular with their constituents, but needed to happen anyway. At this point, I do agree the ownership going forward is going to be on them.

I will say, I am glad we finally had a black President. I think it was historic, important, and we can look at our country and say that a lot of people do not care about the color of his skin, but the content of his character. I think that was something we as a country needed. Of course people on the Left will violently defend him just because he's black, but whatever. Identity politics is not the weapon it used to be, and I'll let them cling to their dying cause. I think a lot of people want to blame Obama for race relations, and I think inviting BLM to the White House legitimized them and it was completely inappropriate and ridiculous, but the MSM is the largest culprit for that. There are young black men and women growing up believing in the boogie man of "white privilege" and I think that is the media's monster. I don't think Obama has dispelled any of that rhetoric and cemented it in some ways, and could have quelled much of the dissent in this country... but looking back I hope we see that as the left wing media's bastard creation. Although, the "if I had a son" shite was ridiculous and feeds in to a narrative of young black children being hunted by cops which is absurd, and that I will plant squarely on him. Even LeBron has mentioned worrying about his sons which was the biggest farce. I guess I will have to see how much that lingers in the collective conscious before I don't have to pin on him. Time will tell. And this country is going to be a majority Hispanic in 30 years. This white vs black thing that dominated politics for so long is literally going to be an artifact. It's just literally won't be a thing.

As for Obama's foreign policy, I may in the 5% of people that liked how much he droned the frick out of people. Highest marks in my book. Otherwise his foreign policy has pretty much sucked. The power vacuum in Iraq was all him. His anti-Israel shite is a joke. The Iran Nuclear deal was a disaster. But whatever. It can call be corrected soon.

His economics are the things that drive me the craziest. The stimulus. The debt. QE1. The welfare state. QE2. Stifling the shale revolution when EVEN IN HIS SPEECH TONIGHT HE TALKED ABOUT HALVING DEPENDENCY ON FOREIGN OIL WHEN HE DID LITERALLY NOTHING TO HELP IT, EXTENDED ZERO FEDERAL LEASES, AND IF HE DID WE MIGHT EVEN BE COMPLETELY OFF FOREIGN OIL. Terrible economic growth. QE3. I don't even want to list how terrible it all was it's just too much.

Overall: C- for now. There were no complete blunders like the GWoT that would knock him in to the D territory, but there are no high points. It's all just error after error. Each error is somewhat survivable, but at this point, if I was asked to pick my favorite thing Obama did, I'm not sure I could name a single thing other than flying death robots, and I wish we weren't even in the position where we had to use them. Maybe I'll look back after Trump and have a completely different perspective, but for now, he strikes me as an ideologue that trusted the Democratic machine too much. For an amazing orator that evokes confidence, he was surprisingly weak. He had a few big ideas that were implemented in the worst way possible because he did nothing but appease to the clueless Dems within his own party. I think his lack of a real job ever lead to this idealism. When you buy in to the political machine, and "community organizing"(why did he mention this so much tonight?), I think you start to believe your bull shite. Obama seems like a good man when it comes down to it, just naive and oblivious. George W. Bush suffered from some of those same flaws, and I think W. is a good man as well.


PhilipMarlowe
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re: Obama's Farewell Address and what you will remember him for.
As the arse baller he is.



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memphisplaya
South Florida Fan
Member since Jan 2009
77975 posts

re: Obama's Farewell Address and what you will remember him for.
One of my least favorite decisions was him turning down offering vouchers, which would be funded by public funds, to get kids of low income families and the poor environment out of the inner city schools and allowing them to attend better school systems.

You want to raise my taxes for that? Go right ahead, because that's real progress and not division.


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Wtodd
Missouri Fan
Tampa, FL
Member since Oct 2013
21481 posts

re: Obama's Farewell Address and what you will remember him for.
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what you will remember him for.

1 - shitty domestic policies
2 - shitty foreign policies
3 - calling me a racist, sexist & homophobic for 8 yrs simply bc I disagree with someone
4 - his apology tours


kywildcatfanone
Kentucky Fan
Wildcat Country!
Member since Oct 2012
38553 posts

re: Obama's Farewell Address and what you will remember him for.
I was willing to give him a chance, and right out of the gate when he went on his apology tours for America being the world leader, he lost me. That was basically treason, and set the tone for most of his agenda in office.

He's not a bad person I don't think, just misguided, as most liberals are.


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pvilleguru
USA Fan
Member since Jun 2009
30824 posts

re: Obama's Farewell Address and what you will remember him for.
Seemed like a cool guy. I didn't have many problems with him.


GurleyGirl
Georgia Fan
Georgia
Member since Nov 2015
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re: Obama's Farewell Address and what you will remember him for.
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quote:what you will remember him for. 1 - shitty domestic policies 2 - shitty foreign policies 3 - calling me a racist, sexist & homophobic for 8 yrs simply bc I disagree with someone 4 - his apology tours


This and basically I will remember Obama as a race baiting Muslim Manchurian Candidate who transformed America by undermining the foundation on which our nation was built. In short, Obama has been the worst President during my rather lengthy lifetime that extends back to Dwight D. Eisenhower.


PrivatePublic
Troy Fan
Member since Nov 2012
8700 posts

re: Obama's Farewell Address and what you will remember him for.
I don't give a flying frick about his politics, economic or foreign policy, any of it. None of it was really memorable, except for Obamacare.

What I will remember is how the man had a chance to champion reason and unity amongst our races when racial tensions became tight under his watch, and instead he chose to sow discord and division.

Final grade: D+


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DannyB
Auburn Fan
Huntsville, AL
Member since Aug 2010
3879 posts

re: Obama's Farewell Address and what you will remember him for.
I will most remember having great insurance until Obamacare kicked in and it went to shite along with my deductible going up from $500.00 for me, the wife, and 2 kids to $3000.00 which also included prescriptions.

frick that piece of shit!!!
This post was edited on 1/11 at 7:31 am


ABearsFanNMS
Citadel Fan
tLandmass or NE South America
Member since Oct 2014
6060 posts

re: Obama's Farewell Address and what you will remember him for.
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I will most remember having great insurance until Obamacare kicked in and all my healthcare benefits went to shite along, my premiums going from $425.00 a month to $915.00 a month, my deductible going up from $2,000.00 for me, the wife, and 4 kids to $5,000.00 which also included prescriptions. frick that piece of shite and anyone that supported the worst piece of legislation enacted in my lifetime!!!


Fixed that for you


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GnashRebel
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re: Obama's Farewell Address and what you will remember him for.
I will remember him as the guy who pulled the troops out of Iraq for no reason and undermined much of the hard fought gains my friends and I made.


weagle12
Auburn Fan
Newnan, GA
Member since Jul 2016
87 posts

re: Obama's Farewell Address and what you will remember him for.
I'll remember him as an excellent firearms salesmen. over 100 million sold under obama's presidency.

I'll remember "jv team..."

I'll remember my health insurance sky rocketing.


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DirtyDawg
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Member since Aug 2013
5088 posts

re: Obama's Farewell Address and what you will remember him for.
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TeLeFaWx


Be careful you might scare away people by actually having a well thought out opinion


DesignTiger
Auburn Fan
Lawrenceville, Georgia
Member since Jun 2011
1239 posts

re: Obama's Farewell Address and what you will remember him for.
In chronological order:

First "Black" President which was cool... Even though he's half White.

Killing Osama Bin Ladin... All he did was give the order though, I don't feel that it was necessary for him to have to tell our guys to take that dick bag out.

Making healthcare accessible to everyone while fricking up healthcare at the same time.

Adding to racial division and distrust of police officers in the minority communities.

Using the tax payer's money to campaign for HRC, but I know pretty much every previous President has done something like this.

Joe Biden memes... Funny as hell.

Having no balls to call countries/companies out for the better interest of America.

Overall I'd give him a 5/10.


pvilleguru
USA Fan
Member since Jun 2009
30824 posts

re: Obama's Farewell Address and what you will remember him for.
Obamacare didn't work as planned, but it did help people. It needs to be reworked, but the idea behind the ACA is something I strongly believe in.


Wtodd
Missouri Fan
Tampa, FL
Member since Oct 2013
21481 posts

re: Obama's Farewell Address and what you will remember him for.
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Obama has been the worst President during my rather lengthy lifetime that extends back to Dwight D. Eisenhower

Jimmy Carter supports this


rockiee
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Sugar Land, TX
Member since Jan 2015
10334 posts
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re: Obama's Farewell Address and what you will remember him for.
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He really is an amazing orator. While I find Trump entertaining and a breath of fresh air, we are definitely losing something in that department. Obama is an all time public speaker. I think people will study him for years.



This has always been my thought. Didn't agree with him on most things but you can't really deny his speaking ability.


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TeLeFaWx
SMU Fan
Dallas, TX
Member since Aug 2011
22429 posts

re: Obama's Farewell Address and what you will remember him for.
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Be careful you might scare away people by actually having a well thought out opinion


Haha. If I want quick hitting anti-Obama stuff I'll lurk r/The_Donald. I love that place for what it is, but hopefully this place can get us some deeper discussion?


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JustGetItRight
Alabama Fan
Member since Jan 2012
7430 posts

re: Obama's Farewell Address and what you will remember him for.
Good:

Giving the green light to enter Pakistan and kill Bin Laden. That took balls I did not think he had and I will always respect him for that decision.

Bad:

Obamacare.

Devastating:

He has set race relations back 30 years or more by pandering to the fringe and validating the notion that the police are out to get them.


TeLeFaWx
SMU Fan
Dallas, TX
Member since Aug 2011
22429 posts

re: Obama's Farewell Address and what you will remember him for.
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Good:

Giving the green light to enter Pakistan and kill Bin Laden. That took balls I did not think he had and I will always respect him for that decision.

Bad:

Obamacare.

Devastating:

He has set race relations back 30 years or more by pandering to the fringe and validating the notion that the police are out to get them.


The narrative of "white privilege" and that cops are out hunting black people is one of the most dangerous and ridiculous things that has entered our collective conscious. I won't make Obama the culprit for this, but I agree that pandering to them and validating them in any form was absolutely a mistake and has done some serious damage to this country.


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