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re: Murder victims by weapon
Posted on 6/5/14 at 8:01 pm to finestfirst79
Posted on 6/5/14 at 8:01 pm to finestfirst79
I wonder where blowing hot pepper up someones nose while they sleep qualifies?
Posted on 6/5/14 at 8:03 pm to MIZ_COU
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Actually a better way to put this is if my daughter needs to be with someone armed to go anywhere or to be at school that seems like a third world country
So... Aurora, Colorado, Vienna, Virginia and Newtown, Connecticut are third world?
Posted on 6/5/14 at 8:05 pm to Alahunter
That is not my point and you know it. Should I just type it again?
Posted on 6/5/14 at 8:21 pm to MIZ_COU
The point is irrelevant. People react violently in all walks of life, being prepared to defend ones self doesnt put one on the level of a third world citizen or relegate their area of living a third world area.
Posted on 6/5/14 at 8:23 pm to MIZ_COU
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That is not my point and you know it. Should I just type it again?
Hmm... I can't imagine how a rewording would change the logical response. But do try
Actually I haven't taken a gun out of my home in 25 years or more, and that was only to go hunting. But I'm glad there are good people out there with CCW licenses. Ignoring (for a moment) the kooks-with-guns argument of the left for banning guns I don't see why anybody would have an objection to this, other than some touchy feely "I don't like it" thing. To my knowledge there has never been a CCW-carrier convicted of a violent crime. Not one.
Posted on 6/5/14 at 8:25 pm to Alahunter
Eh, something about putting on a raid vest always ends up with me feeling like I'm in Mogadishu.
Posted on 6/5/14 at 8:29 pm to Rebelgator
Is it the act of putting it on or the reason and target of the raid? And would it feel the same regardless of location if the perp was the same, no matter the locatin?
Posted on 6/5/14 at 8:30 pm to KSGamecock
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Aren't gun crimes at record low rates overall?
Yeah, that was kinda the point. The crisis ain't a crisis. But I have no objection to this thread blowing up and the loons coming out telling us why we should be disarmed.
Posted on 6/5/14 at 8:43 pm to Alahunter
quote:So I should be happy if my daughter plays at school under the protectorship of armed guards.
The point is irrelevant.
and it's not irrelevant to me.
This post was edited on 6/5/14 at 8:45 pm
Posted on 6/5/14 at 8:47 pm to MIZ_COU
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So I should be happy if my daughter plays at school under the protectorship of armed guards.
Well, yeah.
The guards aren't the problem, the people they're protecting her from are the problem.
Posted on 6/5/14 at 8:50 pm to Alahunter
Location is the biggest factor.
Posted on 6/5/14 at 8:55 pm to MIZ_COU
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USA
Guns are never going to be illegal here. It's not going to happen, ever.
The real way to address the issue is to arm more people and not allow guns to have the overwhelming power they have in most crime.
Will that amount to more gang shootouts instead of just random drive bys and random killings? Probably.
Will it decrease property crime and random street violence? I'd guess yes.
It seems that doing it the way it's been done isn't working. Chicago is a great city, and guns are nary to be found in the city. Gangsters find guns and shoot each other. Shocker.
Would the non-gang/crime related violence go down with a more armed populace? I would almost guarantee my life on it.
Posted on 6/5/14 at 8:57 pm to Mizzeaux
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Would the non-gang/crime related violence go down with a more armed populace? I would almost guarantee my life on it.
Even if it didn't go down, it seems antithetical to the idea of freedom to not allow people to defend themselves.
Posted on 6/5/14 at 9:19 pm to the808bass
All the arguments for/against aside, I look around and see how we live. Cops are getting more militarized as they probably should if everybody's armed, schools are under armed guard (and this is the NRA's position). I've been to countries like this but now I'm going to live in one. That's reality, and it's also not relevant.
Posted on 6/5/14 at 9:26 pm to MIZ_COU
Its becoming a militant state because the underlying issues are ignored in favor of trying to strip individual rights.
Posted on 6/5/14 at 9:39 pm to MIZ_COU
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Cops are getting more militarized as they probably should if everybody's armed, schools are under armed guard (and this is the NRA's position).
Cops aren't getting militarized as a response to CCW. That started before. Linking those two doesn't seem to be accurate.
Posted on 6/5/14 at 10:05 pm to the808bass
I didn't link it to CCW, I'm just pointing out ever increasing levels of firepower.
And I agree with Alahunter that it's an effect, not a cause.
And I agree with Alahunter that it's an effect, not a cause.
Posted on 6/5/14 at 10:27 pm to MIZ_COU
Its all the Homeland Security money. Its use it or lose it, so everyone buys the craziest shite they can. Does Des Moines, Iowa need an APC? No. Do they have one thanks to Homeland grants. Probably.
This post was edited on 6/5/14 at 10:33 pm
Posted on 6/5/14 at 10:29 pm to Rebelgator
Yep. If funds arent used, then the next yr, they dont get as much. So in fear of not getting future funding, its spent on unnecessary programs and equipment.
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