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Posted on 11/11/15 at 10:14 am to ihometiger
Posted on 11/11/15 at 10:14 am to ihometiger
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The YiK yak person was a Hispanic Texas A&M student. He was arrested this morning. LOL. Dead serious
The guy was a 19-year old white man named Hunter Park. He's a student at Missouri University of Science & Technology. Computer Science major. They arrested him just before 2am in Rolla and brought him back to Columbia, where he is in jail on a $4,500 bond. He's accused of making a terrorist threat.
He's not Hispanic, nor a TAMU student.
MUPD took the threat seriously and tracked him down pretty quick. The initially didn't release his photo for his own protection, but TV stations in Missouri did so, so it became a moot point.
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Posted on 11/11/15 at 10:15 am to bayou2003
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Makes me sick to my stomach. Saw this dude on TV, well spoken, looks like he's manipulative. Parents are rich and he complains about racism. Wow.
Definitely. Check out the pics of his family home. He has some cajones demanding anyone admit their privilege.
Posted on 11/11/15 at 10:16 am to semotruman
He is from Lake St. Louis. A notoriously white-privileged area. And he has long flowing locks, has been photographed skiing and is an EPL fan.
Throw away the fricking key.
Throw away the fricking key.
Posted on 11/11/15 at 10:16 am to dwgsfrlife7673
Fill in two! You can get bingo maybe
(I'm joking)
Posted on 11/11/15 at 10:18 am to the808bass
So because he's from a nice area he has never experienced racism? I know you don't think that so explain what you mean.
Posted on 11/11/15 at 10:21 am to dwgsfrlife7673
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I'm saying before an issue starts educate your students on race and provide arenas for diversity to be spoken about.
Two days before the protestors stopped the Homecoming parade, Loftin announced new diversity training measures. Jonathan wrote into the Maneater and complained at length (like a whiny adolescent) in an editorial that Loftin didn't credit all of the protestors and past protestors as far back as the 60s with the creation of the new training and said Loftin was trying to take credit for the training.
That's who they were dealing with. This wasn't about anything. You've been fooled about what actually happened.
Posted on 11/11/15 at 10:21 am to dwgsfrlife7673
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So because he's from a nice area he has never experienced racism? I know you don't think that so explain what you mean.
Edited: You may not know how this website works. You can click on the person's name to whom I was replying to see what I was responding to.
This post was edited on 11/11/15 at 10:24 am
Posted on 11/11/15 at 10:24 am to the808bass
When was Homecoming? I've heard issues have been up all year on campus. It just blows my mind when we witch hunt people who say what we don't want to hear. Are you currently a student?
Posted on 11/11/15 at 10:25 am to dwgsfrlife7673
Colleges are not intended to teach people how not to offend others. Ideally, colleges foster free-flowing thought (and speech) that will inevitably offend some. This, in turn, should foster more discussion.
You don't learn anything by only hearing points of view that you agree with. Colleges, as institutions of higher learning, should expose students to things they don't agree with as part of their mission.
People have the right to free speech. They don't have the right to an audience. You earn your audience. That's why people listened when the football players got involved.
The football players had every right to stop playing for a cause they believed in. However, had the university pulled their scholarship, it would have been justified per the terms of their agreement. Both sides of that are OK in my book.
Where I have problems is with the hungerstriker and the bullying of media. A hunger strike to take away someone's job is not peaceful protest. It's extortion. He put the university in an ethical bind to get his way.
You don't learn anything by only hearing points of view that you agree with. Colleges, as institutions of higher learning, should expose students to things they don't agree with as part of their mission.
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People like to be listened to and felt as if they have a voice in amatter.
People have the right to free speech. They don't have the right to an audience. You earn your audience. That's why people listened when the football players got involved.
The football players had every right to stop playing for a cause they believed in. However, had the university pulled their scholarship, it would have been justified per the terms of their agreement. Both sides of that are OK in my book.
Where I have problems is with the hungerstriker and the bullying of media. A hunger strike to take away someone's job is not peaceful protest. It's extortion. He put the university in an ethical bind to get his way.
Posted on 11/11/15 at 10:26 am to the808bass
But that makes me question even more. What if whoever the kid is does have a point? What is he sees friends being treated unfairly? What if just because where he si from doesn't define his mentality?
Posted on 11/11/15 at 10:26 am to dwgsfrlife7673
They probably could have had a town hall meeting after the news of the players boycotting. But they didn't ask for one. They just demanded Wolfe gtfo.
Posted on 11/11/15 at 10:28 am to dwgsfrlife7673
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I've heard issues have been up all year on campus. It just blows my mind when we witch hunt people who say what we don't want to hear. Are you currently a student?
I am not currently a student. Homecoming was a few weeks ago. "Issues" have been up. Incidents of bias as reported to police have been relatively constant over the past few years, according to the dominant power structure of the MU police which is probably run by a white heterosexual male, so TIFWIW. Incidents of racial bias are a minority of the total reports of incidents of bias.
Posted on 11/11/15 at 10:29 am to dwgsfrlife7673
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But that makes me question even more. What if whoever the kid is does have a point? What is he sees friends being treated unfairly? What if just because where he si from doesn't define his mentality?
In the post I wrote to which you responded, I was describing the neighborhood of the person who made the threat last night on YikYak. Not Butler's neighborhood.
Posted on 11/11/15 at 10:30 am to Crowknowsbest
I agree College is a place where freedom through speech and thought is allowed. But I also believe college is a place where you can equip students to become better people. At my own University which happens to be in the deep south of Georgia we have sessions like this. Is everyone reached? No. But some get that exposure and realization of issues.
What the football team did was debatable in my mind. Apparently the University hadn't been paying attention all year. It shook the core of Mizzou because it messed with their money and their big time activity on campus. Hunger Strike kid is melodramatic. There is just something that screams Mizzou was messing up way before all this. Every campus has sensitive people screaming Black Pride etc. But how do you honestly convince football players to join you if things aren't actually a tad bad.
What the football team did was debatable in my mind. Apparently the University hadn't been paying attention all year. It shook the core of Mizzou because it messed with their money and their big time activity on campus. Hunger Strike kid is melodramatic. There is just something that screams Mizzou was messing up way before all this. Every campus has sensitive people screaming Black Pride etc. But how do you honestly convince football players to join you if things aren't actually a tad bad.
Posted on 11/11/15 at 10:31 am to kiNupe5
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because you (they) lost credibility picking the guy before him, can't complain about a damn thing he's done after Bush got 8 years
No black people voted for Bush? Weird.
Also, is Bush still the President? This strawman isn't going to work. If the buck stops at the top then why weren't the protesters mad at the President of the US?
Is it because he's not expected to address idiots yelling from a pickup truck that may or may not have happened? Yes. That's why. So why is the President of an entire University System supposed to addressed individual acts of idiocy? Should he do that every time someone has their feelings hurt? No. Of course not.
This post was edited on 11/11/15 at 10:33 am
Posted on 11/11/15 at 10:31 am to nvasil1
Town House Meeting could've done good way before. He should've held one at least to try and talk them down. But if he was unable to take care of his business before hit the road jack.
Posted on 11/11/15 at 10:32 am to dwgsfrlife7673
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There is just something that screams Mizzou was messing up way before all this.
That "something" is social media. And most of what social media screams is lies. But we believe shite because it's on Twitter.
Posted on 11/11/15 at 10:34 am to the808bass
So you get information from friends back at school and alumni you know? Potentially saying you get one perspective of the argument as information. Lets be honest racism isn't reported on campus unless you are physically harmed or just shaken to that point. Happens everyday. I'm not trying to be a douche in anyway but I'm kinda playing Devils advocate here.
Posted on 11/11/15 at 10:35 am to dwgsfrlife7673
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I agree College is a place where freedom through speech and thought is allowed. But I also believe college is a place where you can equip students to become better people.
That should happen naturally through exposure to substantive thought. Forcing it down peoples' throat does more harm than good imo.
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But how do you honestly convince football players to join you if things aren't actually a tad bad.
I don't know nearly enough to comment on how bad it actually is. My post about the swastika was meant to point out the ridiculousness of that particular event. My issue is with what appears to me to be a rash and unfair witch-hunt.
Posted on 11/11/15 at 10:35 am to the808bass
Some of the most racist people I've come across are well to do. Something about the South and "old money"
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