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Posted on 1/5/16 at 9:53 pm to
Posted by StrawsDrawnAtRandom
Member since Sep 2013
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Posted on 1/5/16 at 9:53 pm to
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What makes you say that? I have many family members both former and current Navy and they all love it



I've met some guys who really liked it, and had family members in it as well but it's just awful for the majority. A lot of people don't like it -- although the explanation from before was far befitting. I can only add that when they were downsizing they were kicking people out for some right old bullshite, too.

Maybe giving them bogus Re-Entry codes, as well.

frick the Navy.
Posted by TbirdSpur2010
ALAMO CITY
Member since Dec 2010
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Posted on 1/5/16 at 9:54 pm to
If I could do it over again idk if I would have joined at all.

But then I likely wouldn't have been able to pay for school and wouldn't have met wifey since she was ROTC, too, so I guess it worked out.

And so much of your military experience depends on more than just your branch. AFSC (MOS), where you're stationed, the squadron you're working with, the caliber of the brass....all of those can color your experience so much.
Posted by StrawsDrawnAtRandom
Member since Sep 2013
21146 posts
Posted on 1/5/16 at 9:59 pm to
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And so much of your military experience depends on more than just your branch. AFSC (MOS), where you're stationed, the squadron you're working with, the caliber of the brass....all of those can color your experience so much.


For sure, man. There are so many things to factor in, and I probably would have gone through it again (as much as it sucked) because it opened up a whole lot of doors, gave me experiences I would have never had and exposed part of the real world to me.

But, there are just some branches who treat their personnel better than others. Having spent time in the Navy and seeing what it was like in the Army, I would have 100% joined the Army just on the chances.

I'm glad to have my own business, and be my own boss at this point, even with all the stress that it entails, though.
Posted by SurfTide
San Diego, CA
Member since Nov 2015
1658 posts
Posted on 1/5/16 at 10:01 pm to
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And so much of your military experience depends on more than just your branch. AFSC (MOS), where you're stationed, the squadron you're working with, the caliber of the brass....all of those can color your experience so much.


Great point TbirdSpur. And while this might be true of the civilian world as well, the difference is that you can't just quit once you are in the military. So if you are unlucky or choose poorly... that's your life for the next 3-4 years minimum.
Posted by TbirdSpur2010
ALAMO CITY
Member since Dec 2010
134026 posts
Posted on 1/5/16 at 10:05 pm to
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Great point TbirdSpur. And while this might be true of the civilian world as well, the difference is that you can't just quit once you are in the military. So if you are unlucky or choose poorly... that's your life for the next 3-4 years minimum.



Yeah, that was my lot in the service. Getting medically disqualified 2 years early was actually a blessing in disguise for me.
Posted by StrawsDrawnAtRandom
Member since Sep 2013
21146 posts
Posted on 1/5/16 at 10:08 pm to
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Yeah, that was my lot in the service. Getting medically disqualified 2 years early was actually a blessing in disguise for me.


Same fricking thing happened to me.

Said I wasn't going to go into detail, but my God I was so happy to get out.

But, they shafted me on my RE real good. Whiiich is why I went the contracting route.

Which, by the way, so much better.
Posted by TbirdSpur2010
ALAMO CITY
Member since Dec 2010
134026 posts
Posted on 1/5/16 at 10:09 pm to
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I'm glad to have my own business, and be my own boss at this point, even with all the stress that it entails, though.


Yeah, I'm in a much better place career-wise now, too. Extremely happy with what I'm doing and where I'm living.

At this stage I just try to keep some perspective. Military didn't work out for me, but it wasn't all bad. I'm a product of a mil-to-mil marriage, was in a mil-to-mil marriage, and am using a few of the skills I acquired in my new employ. For some, the military really is the perfect career choice. Huge organization, there are bound to be plenty of success stories to go with horror stories.
Posted by SurfTide
San Diego, CA
Member since Nov 2015
1658 posts
Posted on 1/5/16 at 10:13 pm to
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Said I wasn't going to go into detail, but my God I was so happy to get out.


Getting that DD214 was one of the greatest days of my life

StrawsDrawn, if you don't mind me asking, what was your rate? If you really don't wan't to go back to that dark place though, no worries, I understand, I was just curious.
Posted by SurfTide
San Diego, CA
Member since Nov 2015
1658 posts
Posted on 1/5/16 at 10:15 pm to
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Yeah, I'm in a much better place career-wise now, too.


Cheers man

I'm using the GI Bill to get an engineering degree, it's probably the best deal in the military IMO.
Posted by TbirdSpur2010
ALAMO CITY
Member since Dec 2010
134026 posts
Posted on 1/5/16 at 10:16 pm to
quote:

I went the contracting route.

Which, by the way, so much better.


I believe it

quote:


Said I wasn't going to go into detail, but my God I was so happy to get out.


Yeah Aggiebelle had decided the year before my ankle surgery she wasn't going to go past her four years, so I was just playing out the string in a career I wasn't crazy about. Was kinda funny what with civilian doctors apologizing to me for sending back less-than-stellar convalescence reports to the base clinic and I'm like "nah, y'all are good, BLEE dat!"
Posted by TbirdSpur2010
ALAMO CITY
Member since Dec 2010
134026 posts
Posted on 1/5/16 at 10:17 pm to
quote:


I'm using the GI Bill to get an engineering degree, it's probably the best deal in the military IMO.


Damn straight. Use the hell out of that!

Good luck with the pursuit of that degree. That's awesome.
Posted by namvet6566
Member since Oct 2012
6698 posts
Posted on 1/5/16 at 10:21 pm to
Geaux Navy


Posted by StrawsDrawnAtRandom
Member since Sep 2013
21146 posts
Posted on 1/5/16 at 10:22 pm to
quote:

StrawsDrawn, if you don't mind me asking, what was your rate? If you really don't wan't to go back to that dark place though, no worries, I understand, I was just curious.



DC.

And yeah I think it's best for me to just get out of this thread. Nothing against anybody, of course, but it was a really, really bad time for me.
Posted by Remote Controlled
Member since Apr 2013
6859 posts
Posted on 1/5/16 at 10:49 pm to
Being stuck in Engineering/Reactor Dept. in the Navy sucks balls.

Stay away from MM, EM, DC, EN, ETG rates.

Being stuck in the Air dept. on an aircraft carrier sucks balls as well.

Stay away from anything with boatswains mate in the title, even if it starts with the word aviation.

That IYAOYAS stuff is bull shite too. 25% of the weapons dept gets sent tad to galley/master at arms. 25% clean the shops, and the other 50% get to move bombs up and down 10 decks.

Work in Combat Systems or Operations. Every space is air conditioned. Easy watches, more port time, etc.

And yes, FTN. Even those that enjoyed their stay agree on that shite.
Posted by Hardy_Har
MS
Member since Nov 2012
16285 posts
Posted on 1/5/16 at 10:52 pm to
I'll hit 14 years in the Army National Guard in FEB, with 10 of those Active, deployed or full time guard.

There's a huge shift in Cyber defense right now. You can get in with an IT based commo MOS or go the Intel route. Either way, that's where a lot of $$ is about to be directed..

Good luck.
This post was edited on 1/5/16 at 11:37 pm
Posted by pvilleguru
Member since Jun 2009
60453 posts
Posted on 1/6/16 at 6:54 am to
quote:

Looking to join
I found your mistake.
Posted by slacker130
Your mom
Member since Jul 2010
7994 posts
Posted on 1/6/16 at 8:15 am to
Where do you live?

My advice is to find a Air Force Reserve or Guard unit close and fly airplanes. If you're a college grad, you can possibly work an OTS slot and pilot/nav training.

If you're not a college grad, you can be a loadmaster, boom operator, flight engineer, depending on the air frame. You get to see the world and do some pretty cool stuff. You can also use the GI Bill possibly to finish the degree and then head to OTS.

Basically, flying kicks arse and seriously beats turning wrenches, staring at a computer, sitting in a cube or a boat.
Posted by DynastyDawg
Relf-Coast
Member since Jan 2013
10886 posts
Posted on 1/6/16 at 8:48 am to
quote:

If you're a college grad, you can possibly work an OTS slot and pilot/nav training.



Man I have thought seriously about this ever since finishing college. I always wanted to be a pilot growing up.

Anyone know the path to take? Experiences? Is it worth it at 26?

Also, sight. I am -1.25 in one and -1.75 in the other. Doesn't flying have restrictions?
Posted by The Spleen
Member since Dec 2010
38865 posts
Posted on 1/6/16 at 9:03 am to
Know what you want to do while in before going to a recruiter, and don't be afraid to walk away if they don't let you go that route. They'll try to railroad you into a shitty assignment.


That's the only advice my brother gave me when I was considering the same thing.
Posted by biggsc
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Member since Mar 2009
34209 posts
Posted on 1/6/16 at 9:06 am to
Some of my family were Army, Navy and Marines
Just go down to the recruiting station and talk to the recruiters
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