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Posted on 3/7/14 at 8:33 pm to Prof
Posted on 3/7/14 at 8:33 pm to Prof
Also China expressed concern ove North Korea firing a rocket too close to one of their own (China's) commercial flights yesterday.
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Posted on 3/7/14 at 8:33 pm to Prof
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Those are the most likely by far but I wouldn't rule out interference from military equipment (electromagnetic interference can mess up plane equipment). That whole area is being monitored tightly right now by not only the West but also Russia and China. There's no telling what's being used. Plus, China's smog is so bad right now it could interfere with things -- smog has reflective particulates (even some metals) that can throw off sensitive equipment including lasers.
China also recently reinforced the sudden annexation of island near them and extended their air and sea space. No one has heeded them and yesterday they issued a statement naming the US by name and warning us to heed their newly established BS sovereign boundaries -- this was just after they talked to Putin.
That's scary stuff.
Posted on 3/7/14 at 8:34 pm to Mizzeaux
For background: The 777 is an extremely safe airliner. Since it's commercial flight introduction in June 1995, the only fatalities on a 777 were last year in the crash at San Francisco. That includes daily flights with over 1,100 models of the 777 in daily operation.
This specific 777 was damaged in a ground accident according to the Sydney Morning Herald in which the tip of the plane broke off after a collision with a China Eastern Airlines aircraft in August 2012.
This specific 777 was damaged in a ground accident according to the Sydney Morning Herald in which the tip of the plane broke off after a collision with a China Eastern Airlines aircraft in August 2012.
This post was edited on 3/7/14 at 8:36 pm
Posted on 3/7/14 at 8:35 pm to Arkla Missy
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That's scary stuff.
The good news is that those are probably the least likely. Bad news is the possibilities even exist.
Posted on 3/7/14 at 8:37 pm to Arkla Missy
I have 2 very good friends in Kuala Lumpur. He is in the oil business, she is in the decorating the house business. She is the daughter of one of the High Chiefs, so they say, so it is her job to decorate, take down and start over.
I guess I need to start sending and checking email for any news on this.
I guess I need to start sending and checking email for any news on this.
This post was edited on 3/7/14 at 8:38 pm
Posted on 3/7/14 at 8:39 pm to Ole Geauxt
Wow, yes, that's probably a good idea.
Posted on 3/7/14 at 8:39 pm to WestCoastAg
I heard the plane landed in Nanning, China. TIFWIW which is a grain of salt.
Posted on 3/7/14 at 9:00 pm to Mizzeaux
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For background: The 777 is an extremely safe airliner.
Let's hope it landed somewhere unknown but safe then....
That said, technically they're all extremely safe (every single modern commercial plane could rightfully make that claim) but one thing that bothers me about it is that it's a fly-by-wire aircraft. Both equipment malfunction/defect and EMI could mess with EVERY bit of equipment on that plane because of how the 'brains' and controls of those aircraft are designed. And honestly, I still don't trust electronic/computerized aircraft no matter how many redundancies they have. Complexity has a downside and it's often sensitivity and/or one thing goes wrong it all goes wrong.
Posted on 3/7/14 at 9:01 pm to Prof
New word is that contact was lost over Vietnam.
Posted on 3/7/14 at 10:16 pm to Prof
Yeah, they're not finding that plane intact. Sad, but it's not gonna happen. It would have run out of fuel hours ago.
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Posted on 3/7/14 at 10:26 pm to CatFan81
What?!?!
You mean airplanes don't have unlimited fuel?!??!??!??!!!!!!???!??!???,?????????????!!!!??
Thanks Obama.
You mean airplanes don't have unlimited fuel?!??!??!??!!!!!!???!??!???,?????????????!!!!??
Thanks Obama.
Posted on 3/7/14 at 11:17 pm to CatFan81
Vietnamese Navy is reporting that the plane crashed at sea 153 miles south of Phu Quoc.
Posted on 3/7/14 at 11:36 pm to CatFan81
I just saw they've got a signal from the plane & airline is notifying next of kin. Very tragic.
Posted on 3/7/14 at 11:38 pm to CatFan81
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Yeah, they're not finding that plane intact. Sad, but it's not gonna happen. It would have run out of fuel hours ago.
Thanks for the update. This is truly awful.
Posted on 3/7/14 at 11:43 pm to Prof
Also saw there were 4 Americans on board.
Eta - One infant included in those four.
Eta - One infant included in those four.
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Posted on 3/7/14 at 11:51 pm to Arkla Missy
Damn. Very sad
Posted on 3/8/14 at 1:19 am to Prof
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That said, technically they're all extremely safe (every single modern commercial plane could rightfully make that claim) but one thing that bothers me about it is that it's a fly-by-wire aircraft. Both equipment malfunction/defect and EMI could mess with EVERY bit of equipment on that plane because of how the 'brains' and controls of those aircraft are designed. And honestly, I still don't trust electronic/computerized aircraft no matter how many redundancies they have. Complexity has a downside and it's often sensitivity and/or one thing goes wrong it all goes wrong.
777 has been in flight for 20 years with fly by wire and this appears to be the first mass casualty event in its history. Even with how safe commercial airliners are in general, the 777 has been extremely safe in its lifespan. Extremely.
Posted on 3/8/14 at 2:43 am to Mizzeaux
Air travel is safe - period. Not much to collide with and easy to keep upright. The fly-by-wire issue bothers me for multiple reasons and even autopilot systems to the neglect of real flying are being warned against by the NTSB because studies have shown pilots now overuse them and have forgotten how to do manual checks. They've become lazy and when mechanical failures happen they're not as likely to spot them and less able to correct for them. It was one of the problems cited for the Asiana crash - not the only one but one.
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Posted on 3/8/14 at 8:16 am to Arkla Missy
I haven't received anything from anybody yet, ,, very frustrating.
Posted on 3/8/14 at 9:56 am to Prof
Yeah, flying is much safer than being on the road in a car.
A major airliner has a catastrophic crash once ever few years. Thousands die in cars ever day around the world.
One of the strangest things with this crash is coming from CNN...
A major airliner has a catastrophic crash once ever few years. Thousands die in cars ever day around the world.
One of the strangest things with this crash is coming from CNN...
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For instance, after the airline released a manifest, Austria denied that one of its citizens was onboard the flight as the list stated. The Austrian citizen was safe and sound, and his passport had been stolen two years ago, Austrian Foreign Ministry spokesman Martin Weiss told CNN.
Similarly, Italy's foreign ministry confirmed that no Italians were onboard MH370, even though an Italian was listed on the manifest. Malaysian officials said they were aware of reports that the Italian's passport was also stolen, but had not confirmed it.
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