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re: Just wait for ISIS a**holes...
Posted on 11/14/15 at 12:25 pm to arkiebrian
Posted on 11/14/15 at 12:25 pm to arkiebrian
1 well placed round..that's all it takes.
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Posted on 11/14/15 at 12:26 pm to arkiebrian
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..but at least somebody concealing would have a fighting chance instead of forced slaughter.
The reason I carry everyday, everywhere.
Posted on 11/14/15 at 12:30 pm to five_fivesix
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The reason I carry everyday, everywhere.
What's your favorite EDC? I'm looking at getting a Shield because my 92 FS is a little big to carry. They have them at Academy for $389 which is practically free for what you get.
Posted on 11/14/15 at 12:32 pm to five_fivesix
Me too...Glock 27.
Posted on 11/14/15 at 12:37 pm to auggie
A better comparison would be to look at how often a civilian legally uses their weapon to defend themselves in public and instead hit an unintended target.
For all practical purposes, it NEVER happens. I know of one case in Texas but that is it.
You are far more likely to be hit by fire from LE than civilians. The evidence is overwhelming that legal CC carriers are very selective when choosing to engage a target in public.
For all practical purposes, it NEVER happens. I know of one case in Texas but that is it.
You are far more likely to be hit by fire from LE than civilians. The evidence is overwhelming that legal CC carriers are very selective when choosing to engage a target in public.
Posted on 11/14/15 at 12:40 pm to Stonehog
but after this thread, I'm thinking of adding this
Posted on 11/14/15 at 1:01 pm to JustGetItRight
BS it happens a lot you just don't know where to find the stories they aren't widely reported.
Posted on 11/14/15 at 1:14 pm to arkiebrian
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...to try an attack like that in an American city with an armed populace. It will turn out very differently compared to what happened in Paris.
why?
our cities are full of the same retarded gutless multicultural progressives that Paris is lousy with.
Are you saying our SWAT teams are better shots?
Ok, but it really isn't going to be a huge difference maker.
Posted on 11/14/15 at 8:26 pm to arkiebrian
I'm not against the 2nd Amendment, but I cannot think of one instance where a gun toter stopped a single crazed gunman from killing people. Certainly wouldn't have changed shite in Paris last night. You would've just been out-gunned.
This post was edited on 11/14/15 at 8:27 pm
Posted on 11/14/15 at 8:41 pm to arkiebrian
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...to try an attack like that in an American city with an armed populace. It will turn out very differently compared to what happened in Paris.
It would be the same. Even easier, perhaps since our borders are wide open, there is a subversive effort to maximize the number of 'refugees' coming to the US, and in our society we stupidly mark the softest targets with these signs that say, "Gun Free Zone".
We should change those signs to say, "Terrorist Safe Space".
Posted on 11/14/15 at 8:51 pm to SoFla Tideroller
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If they do, it'll be in one of the "progressive, enlightened" cities north of the Mason-Dixon Line or the west coast.
New York, Boston, Washington DC, Philadelphia, Atlanta, Chicago, Miami, New Orleans, Houston, Seattle, San Francisco, Los Angeles, Denver, Salt Lake City. I would assume these would be high on the target list. Symbolic places, places important to our history, places of commerce and high finance, high-profile areas, attractive to tourists, big population centers, and all easy to access. This is just my assumption.
Posted on 11/14/15 at 9:04 pm to arkiebrian
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..to try an attack like that in an American city with an armed populace. It will turn out very differently compared to what happened in Paris.
Yea we have shown a real propensity to put down mass shooting attempts before they cause damage.
Posted on 11/16/15 at 3:27 am to RandySavage
Most mass shooting have been in places where carting isn't popular, hard to get a permit, or prohibited. What OP is trying to say had this occured here in an area where we can tote it would have been different. Now the bombers strike a diff ordeal you target the shooters what about the bombers you have no idea about.
Posted on 11/16/15 at 2:29 pm to arkiebrian
I knew this was coming. You explain well why we've never had a shooting spree in America. We have too many guns for anyone to get shot.
Posted on 11/16/15 at 3:54 pm to Reservoir dawg
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I'm not against the 2nd Amendment, but I cannot think of one instance where a gun toter stopped a single crazed gunman from killing people. Certainly wouldn't have changed shite in Paris last night. You would've just been out-gunned.
There are plenty. All you had to do was google search it:
12 times mass shootings were stopped.
And I live in a pretty well to do neighborhood with ~ 100 houses. ~ 30% are ex military.
I am not "trained" but I can assure you I can hit a target at 15yds as well as most any highly trained non civilian.
Posted on 11/16/15 at 6:15 pm to arkiebrian
I laughed Friday when I was over by my dad's cousin and he had to run by the school to put up his granddaughter. I watched as he started to take his rifles and such out of the truck and I swear it seemed like it was never going to stop. He had to have had at least 5 different rifles and 3 hand guns. If any shootings occurred near him he could probably arm enough people to match the terrorist.
Posted on 11/16/15 at 6:53 pm to ABearsFanNMS
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Poorly trained radicals going up against a bunch of gun toting amateurs. It would be a comical shootout at the OK coral between the 3 Stooge's and Tom & Jerry.
Maybe I'm an amateur. I carry both open and concealed. Depending on the situation. But I would rather do my best, and die in OK Coral shootout, than cower on the ground and wait for some a-hole to walk up and shoot me in the head.
I don't think it will really be a deterrent. The attackers all assume they will die in the assault. The only difference is that if that same attack happened in Atlanta instead of Paris, the death toll would be more like 20-30 instead of 150, before some rednecks took them out.
Posted on 11/16/15 at 6:57 pm to Reservoir dawg
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Certainly wouldn't have changed shite in Paris last night.
You are absolutely wrong about that. Plain and simple.
There were about 1200 people in that theatre. 89 were killed and 150 wounded there. By only three gunmen. If 1% of the fans there had been armed, the death toll would have been reduced by at least half, maybe more.
Posted on 11/17/15 at 11:52 am to arkiebrian
The same thing could be carried out in San Francisco or Manhattan with the same result. They're not attacking Houston, Dallas, Atlanta or New Orleans where people pack guns. They're going to go after denser, more high-profile, iconic places - these also happen to be liberal havens where people either don't have guns or they're illegal by city ordinance.
Even "liberal" places by southern/southwestern standards are packed with gun toters. Austin is "liberal" by regional standards but it's home to Alex Jones, McBrides gun store right in the heart of town on Lamar which does tons of business, and plenty of Texas-style hippies who are all about "sustainability" and "organic" and have long hair but also own an AR-15. That kind of scene doesn't exist in places with gun controls like Manhattan, San Fran, inner-loop Chicago, or REAL liberal meccas like Portland, Seattle, etc.
Even "liberal" places by southern/southwestern standards are packed with gun toters. Austin is "liberal" by regional standards but it's home to Alex Jones, McBrides gun store right in the heart of town on Lamar which does tons of business, and plenty of Texas-style hippies who are all about "sustainability" and "organic" and have long hair but also own an AR-15. That kind of scene doesn't exist in places with gun controls like Manhattan, San Fran, inner-loop Chicago, or REAL liberal meccas like Portland, Seattle, etc.
This post was edited on 11/17/15 at 12:00 pm
Posted on 11/17/15 at 12:13 pm to Cooter Davenport
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They're not attacking Houston, Dallas, Atlanta or New Orleans where people pack guns.
Exhibit A - Ft Hood, TX.
Exhibit B - Chattanooga, TN.
Home grown terrorists are going to attack what they know.
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