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re: John Boehner to resign from Congress.

Posted on 9/25/15 at 11:28 am to
Posted by The Spleen
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Posted on 9/25/15 at 11:28 am to
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Who then, blacks, Hispanics, women?



All 3 are more discriminated against than white, christian conservatives.
Posted by jcolding41
Member since Sep 2015
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Posted on 9/25/15 at 11:29 am to
I'm not going to say that we are the most discriminated, but it certainly isn't gays. I would say its probably Jews.
Posted by kywildcatfanone
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Posted on 9/25/15 at 11:31 am to
Yep, but it's pretty obvious to anyone with eyes open. You have to look at thing objectively though, which is hard for most to do.
Posted by CatFan81
Decatur, GA
Member since May 2009
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Posted on 9/25/15 at 11:34 am to
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Yep, but it's pretty obvious to anyone with eyes open. You have to look at thing objectively though, which is hard for most to do.


White Christian conservatives control just about everything in this country, particularly in the south. Just because more people don't agree with you doesn't mean that you're discriminated against.
Posted by kywildcatfanone
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Posted on 9/25/15 at 11:39 am to
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White Christian conservatives control just about everything in this country, particularly in the south. Just because more people don't agree with you doesn't mean that you're discriminated against.


I think you are confusing white Christian conservatives, with just white people in general. Not all white people are Christian conservatives.
Posted by Alahunter
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Posted on 9/25/15 at 11:40 am to
Good riddance to Boehner. Need a lot more RINO's gone.

Posted by jcolding41
Member since Sep 2015
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Posted on 9/25/15 at 11:40 am to
I wouldn't say the country but yes to the south. Btw stonehog, that comment was uncalled for.
Posted by BluegrassBelle
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Posted on 9/25/15 at 11:40 am to
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Of course Republicans are moving away from being conservative on most all issues. We really are a one party govt now.


I have to respectfully disagree. IMO part of the problem with government is you have a bunch of extremists on both sides representing what is largely a moderate public as a whole.
Posted by CatFan81
Decatur, GA
Member since May 2009
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Posted on 9/25/15 at 11:41 am to
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I think you are confusing white Christian conservatives, with just white people in general. Not all white people are Christian conservatives.


I'm white, as is my SO. We're neither Christian or Conservatives... so, I'm well aware. They still control just about everything, particularly in the south.
Posted by Alahunter
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90738 posts
Posted on 9/25/15 at 11:42 am to
Birmingham, Atlanta and Memphis agrees with that statement.
Posted by Duke
Twin Lakes, CO
Member since Jan 2008
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Posted on 9/25/15 at 11:45 am to
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Could The Republican Party finally be taking on the conservative mandate they were elected to initiate?


Maybe, but that option would be less effective than Boehner.

For all the hate, Boehner probably has the hardest job in Washington. There are many factions within the Pubs to keep in line. A contentious battle within the GOP for speaker would only make his job harder, to the point he wouldn't be able to do his job.

Who's up next? I think the minority leader current would be a good choice.
Posted by jcolding41
Member since Sep 2015
5694 posts
Posted on 9/25/15 at 11:46 am to
I think George Washington was right, he said the party system would destroy America. I think it would be better if everyone voted for the person, not the party.
Posted by CatFan81
Decatur, GA
Member since May 2009
47188 posts
Posted on 9/25/15 at 11:49 am to
Yep. Too many frick sticks vote party lines instead of voting for the best candidate.
Posted by jcolding41
Member since Sep 2015
5694 posts
Posted on 9/25/15 at 11:50 am to
Now parties can do whatever they want because two control the table.
Posted by kywildcatfanone
Wildcat Country!
Member since Oct 2012
119040 posts
Posted on 9/25/15 at 11:53 am to
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Yep. Too many frick sticks vote party lines instead of voting for the best candidate.


It angers me in the voting booth to see an option for "straight party ticket".
Posted by jcolding41
Member since Sep 2015
5694 posts
Posted on 9/25/15 at 11:57 am to
That's what people who don't look into the election pick.
Posted by Alahunter
Member since Jan 2008
90738 posts
Posted on 9/25/15 at 11:57 am to
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Maybe, but that option would be less effective than Boehner.


That's relative to what you want done. Less Obama policy would be more. A true Conservative with backbone could actually force compromise, instead of capitulation to Obama's policy's, as Boehner has done time and time again.

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Boehner probably has the hardest job in Washington


The position, sure. But he made it easy by threatening his own party members and consistently siding with Dems.

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There are many factions within the Pubs to keep in line


And therein, lies the problem with him, imo. Instead of seeing the growing divide and reaching out to party members, he threatened and took away assignments. Essentially creating a bigger divide and making things more ineffective. The RINO's would have been better served to have used Dem tactics and strongarmed the D party into their policies and forcing Obama into a lame duck Presidency, when they took over both the Senate and the House.
Posted by Duke
Twin Lakes, CO
Member since Jan 2008
35609 posts
Posted on 9/25/15 at 11:58 am to
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IMO part of the problem with government is you have a bunch of extremists on both sides representing what is largely a moderate public as a whole.


Right idea, but I think wrong diagnosis of the blame. The blame are the extremist that vote and the over sensitive reactionaries that make up both sides. There's simply no room for reasonable people in our current climate. It's perfect ethos or frick that RINO/DINO. Perfect is the enemy of good.
Posted by DownSouthJukin
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Posted on 9/25/15 at 12:01 pm to
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IMO part of the problem with government is you have a bunch of extremists on both sides representing what is largely a moderate public as a whole.


That's what they want you to believe, but the "moderate" that is sold to the masses is well-left of center.

Before the second debate, CNN had a short program on about Reagan. I didn't get to listen to it, but I watched it. In nearly every photo of Reagan, there was a picture of Tip O'Neill. I'm sure they were trotting out that old tripe about how well Reagan and O'Neill worked together and that those were the good old days when every body got along.

That's a crock of shite. There were 7 government shutdowns while those two were battling it out. Maybe after hours they were friendly, but they were far from it in Congressional battles. Sausage-making is ugly, and there is no way to get around it except capitulation, which is exactly what the Congressional Republicans have been doing.

Remember what the Senate Democrats did to Bush's judicial appointments throughout both terms of his presidency? Sheer, unadulterated obstructionism. Just think if the Republicans had tried that. You would have thought that the sky was falling.

Remember the last 2 years that Bush was in office and the Democrats had both houses of Congress? Democrats set a record for cloture votes. The Democrats would have howled to high heaven had Republicans tried that.

Democrats want everyone to work together when it suits them, and accuse the Republicans of obstructionism and uber-conservatism when they don't, and the Democrats have the media in their back pocket to assist.

/off soap box

*For the record, I think both parties are culpable for the shite state of affairs of our country.
This post was edited on 9/25/15 at 12:02 pm
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
111507 posts
Posted on 9/25/15 at 12:01 pm to
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Bull shite. That son of a bitch wants favoritism, but only for white Christian conservatives.


Needham is an a-hole with no sense of politics. But his chief and almost singular goal has been defunding Obamacare. Not sure what that has to do with whites or Christians. But it probably sounds good at the martini bar.
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