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Posted on 6/24/16 at 8:30 am to BluegrassBelle
Posted on 6/24/16 at 8:30 am to BluegrassBelle
quote:Maybe you should learn about the Word of God and Christ before you open your idiotic mouth. Gods covenant with Abraham and Moses is not the same as the one thru Jesus.
For some sects of Christianity, they believe the Bible should be accepted word for word.
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Posted on 6/24/16 at 8:34 am to Stacked
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That's because the bible isn't applicable to us.
So, you're saying that everything in the Bible isn't applicable? Even the tiny Commandment of "Thou Shall Not Kill?"
Are you a life-long criminal? Do I need to call the FBI and put you on a terror watch list?
Posted on 6/24/16 at 8:59 am to btnetigers
Try to not let your opinion effect your willingness to keep up in conversation. I don't mind stopping for you, if you want to play a fool I'll teach you like a fool. Now sit up.
When I say it's not applicable, you large mouth bass, I'm not referring to the generalities of simple statements. Those didn't come from the bible anyways. Do you think Judiesm is the first religion to command not to kill?
I'm referring to the frenge parts of the Old Testament, the parts that make it unique from other religions. The parts that we as Christians ignore about our own past while pointing the finger at the Muslim's present. The parts that are very specific.
Unless you're ready to stone a girl to death to prove me wrong, this (gladly) doesn't apply to us because we know better than to stone people to death for having premarital sex.
Our Old Testament can't be believed, so our New Testament can't be believed. Jesus, the messiah, coming because this unbelievable Old Testament said so is a middle eastern self fulfilling prophecy. They taught that a redeemer was coming. Then they've never stopped having people apply for the job since. Can you imagine if we had a book for every person who claimed to be the old testament's messiah? There'd be a religion for every one of them.
So, bass, when I say it's not applicable to us, I'm not talking about it saying to do nice things. I'm talking about it saying to do unspeakably bad things.
Those don't apply to us. They can keep the generalities. We already know not to kill people. We didn't need middle easterners from 2,500 years ago to tell us that. We don't need middle easterners from today telling us that. They can't stop killing anybody.
We need to divorce middle easterners from our life's. It starts with giving them their Old Testament back and letting them and the Muslims have a merry fricking Christmas. Then we can move on united and figure out better ways to observe and acknowledge the work of our designer and not let that still fricked up part of this word tell us how to do anything.
They were right. Back 2,500 years ago, they were just trying to make since of the world around them. It was clear to them as it is clear to us. We are designed. The story they came up to support that, wasn't only bad, it was unnecessary.
They didn't have the ability to talk in scientific terms do describe things that hadn't even been discovered yet. So they had to tell a story of the designer.
It wasn't necessary. Here were are, It's clear to see. No need to tell me to not kill people (or to kill people when they have premarital sex. No need to sacrifice a messiah. I see "the creator's creations" and am baffled by it's order and existence. And so appreciative. But not to the story middle easterners came up with.
When I say it's not applicable, you large mouth bass, I'm not referring to the generalities of simple statements. Those didn't come from the bible anyways. Do you think Judiesm is the first religion to command not to kill?
I'm referring to the frenge parts of the Old Testament, the parts that make it unique from other religions. The parts that we as Christians ignore about our own past while pointing the finger at the Muslim's present. The parts that are very specific.
Unless you're ready to stone a girl to death to prove me wrong, this (gladly) doesn't apply to us because we know better than to stone people to death for having premarital sex.
Our Old Testament can't be believed, so our New Testament can't be believed. Jesus, the messiah, coming because this unbelievable Old Testament said so is a middle eastern self fulfilling prophecy. They taught that a redeemer was coming. Then they've never stopped having people apply for the job since. Can you imagine if we had a book for every person who claimed to be the old testament's messiah? There'd be a religion for every one of them.
So, bass, when I say it's not applicable to us, I'm not talking about it saying to do nice things. I'm talking about it saying to do unspeakably bad things.
Those don't apply to us. They can keep the generalities. We already know not to kill people. We didn't need middle easterners from 2,500 years ago to tell us that. We don't need middle easterners from today telling us that. They can't stop killing anybody.
We need to divorce middle easterners from our life's. It starts with giving them their Old Testament back and letting them and the Muslims have a merry fricking Christmas. Then we can move on united and figure out better ways to observe and acknowledge the work of our designer and not let that still fricked up part of this word tell us how to do anything.
They were right. Back 2,500 years ago, they were just trying to make since of the world around them. It was clear to them as it is clear to us. We are designed. The story they came up to support that, wasn't only bad, it was unnecessary.
They didn't have the ability to talk in scientific terms do describe things that hadn't even been discovered yet. So they had to tell a story of the designer.
It wasn't necessary. Here were are, It's clear to see. No need to tell me to not kill people (or to kill people when they have premarital sex. No need to sacrifice a messiah. I see "the creator's creations" and am baffled by it's order and existence. And so appreciative. But not to the story middle easterners came up with.
This post was edited on 6/24/16 at 9:21 am
Posted on 6/24/16 at 9:17 am to Stacked
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I'm talking about when it says to do unspeakably horrible things. Those don't apply to us, they can skip the generalities. We already know not to kill people. We didn't need middle easterners from 2,500 years ago to tell us not to.
Well, I'm of the opinion that in today's society - any sane and rational thinking person would know this. I'm also of the opinion that not every single verse in the Bible is meant to be taken literally. I've even been told this by priests, nuns, preachers, etc.
I don't pretend to be a theologian at all, but I do live by common sense and a Faith in God and Jesus Christ. So, if ignoring the "horrible" parts of the Bible, and referring to its "good" teachings for a basis of character, honesty, and understanding makes me stupid, then so be it.
Call me whatever names make you feel better, but I'll continue to believe what I believe - just as you will. That's what makes America great.
Posted on 6/24/16 at 9:45 am to btnetigers
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Call me whatever names make you feel better, but I'll continue to believe what I believe - just as you will. That's what makes America great.
You're a perfect example of what I think every single Christian in america should be like.
You are wonderful. You admit it. And because that I respect you. While you may say you may not want my respect, what it means is I respect you because you're honest to me. You don't try to pretend you're conflicted with things like being told to stone people. You don't struggle with that, because it's clearly insane and you're a better person than to obey that. And you will never hear a word from me directed at you about religious topics because of it.
Christianity can be a good life with strong community and great. And we as a country need to let Christians embrace that community. But not if they cannot seperate themselves from the savages in the desert. That's not where creation began and who can even make heads or tails of half the symbolic stuff you read in it?
But we do have a creator. You feel it, and I feel it. And I think when you "pray" to him, he doesn't mind the frivolous efforts you go in your ritual to do so. Nor does he need your attempt. If he did, he would let us know in a much clearer way than a document from middle easterners 2,500 years ago that tells us to stone girls and other things we know today are false also.
We're asking ourselves "why are moderate Muslims not rejecting extremist Muslims", Our sensible Christians need to speak out against our Christians who believe what you're willing to be honest about and let go of.
Now go tell your fellow Christians to knock it off. Believing in the Old Testament isn't the only fricking way to believe you're created.
This post was edited on 6/24/16 at 11:53 am
Posted on 6/24/16 at 10:03 am to Stacked
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Now go tell your fellow Christians to knock it off. Believing in the Old Testament isn't the only fricking way to believe you're created.
Now...this is where you and I are very different. I don't really care what they believe. It's not my business to tell them if they're wrong or right.
Yet again, this is one reason that makes America great. I - like you - have the option to ignore those people. That's what I choose to do. Just like when Jehovah's Witnesses come to my door and I don't answer....It's my right to not answer the door and not to believe their teaching. I don't try to change their mind - because you never will. It's their right to believe what they want to.
With exception of Radical Muslims....there is a special place in Hell for them. Hahaa
Posted on 6/24/16 at 10:09 am to TT9
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Your insecure arse disappearing from this website would be the best of a
To pave the way you have to break the ground. It's sometimes extreme but it's okay. The bible is extreme. Once the ground is broke and paved, others feel more comfortable driving on it and can start to ask less extreme versions of the same questions and because of not coming off as me, the Christians will listen. And the message Christians need to hear the most will be delivered. Which is, knock it off with the loyalty to the Old Testament. If you want to be that kind of religionist, move to the Middle East and do it there where it needs to stay. Kept away from everyone else.
Posted on 6/24/16 at 10:15 am to btnetigers
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Now...this is where you and I are very different. I don't really care what they believe. It's not my business to tell them if they're wrong or right.
Trust me, there's a lot more than that where we disagree. But you're an honest person. And I'm okay with that.
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