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re: Is the term oriental offensive?

Posted on 5/11/16 at 4:07 pm to
Posted by TbirdSpur2010
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Posted on 5/11/16 at 4:07 pm to
I'd do the same. Hilarious
Posted by cas4t
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Posted on 5/11/16 at 4:29 pm to
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"Texan-American" is my favorite nomenclature



Posted by cardboardboxer
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Posted on 5/11/16 at 5:35 pm to
This reminds me of "Hispanic" and how that term upsets some people.
Posted by Warfarer
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Member since May 2010
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Posted on 5/11/16 at 5:53 pm to
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Deal with it.


I get that your a black guy, that's fine. But if you prefer to be called African American, what parts of Africa are you from or originally from? Have you ever been there?

If you are here your an american, plain and simple. The segregation of different cultures is what divides. A few years ago when Mexicans wanted to do the strike and they took to the streets holding Cuban flags, Mexican flags, and other latino flags that was their biggest mistake. No one took sympathy for them. Had they acted like they wanted to assimilate and were holding American flags they would have gotten much more support across the country.

A white guy is a white guy, we don't claim that we are offended by term. At least not the vast majority. My heritage is mostly German but I don't demand that people refer to me as German-American or French-American. I'm an American and have been here for generations so none of it matters.
Posted by BluegrassBelle
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Posted on 5/11/16 at 6:02 pm to
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This reminds me of "Hispanic" and how that term upsets some people.


I saw a Cuban kid get called Hispanic once. Thought he was going to light the room on fire he was so pissed.

As far as Oriental, it's an antiquated term like Negroes. And I imagine it has a lot to do with the colonial origin of the term, where it comes from an old European renaming/rebranding of their ethnicity. I don't have an issue with that and see it more of a not looking like a fricking idiot when addressing them.
Posted by Prof
Member since Jun 2013
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Posted on 5/11/16 at 6:31 pm to
Oriental describes things and objects not people. E.g. An oriental rug = not offensive. Calling a person Oriental = offensive.

Now I will say it's not on the level of a lot of offensive things it's more on the rude/out of date level offense.
Posted by Hardy_Har
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Posted on 5/11/16 at 7:35 pm to
Guess I'll default back to chinamen.
Posted by UKWildcats
Lexington, KY
Member since Mar 2015
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Posted on 5/11/16 at 8:18 pm to
I'm so glad I'm not a member of this pussy arse millennial generation and that I'll be long dead when y'all have completed fricking this country up entirely.
Posted by TbirdSpur2010
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Posted on 5/11/16 at 8:43 pm to
Nobody gives a frick what generation you're apart of.

But hurry up and get the frick out of the way so mine can TRY to fix the friggin' mess y'all made of things
Posted by five_fivesix
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Posted on 5/11/16 at 8:46 pm to
Oh the humor when some dim witted American refers to a Canadian of Korean descent as an Asian-American.

I was watching a hockey game on the tube a few years ago and the announcer kept referring to the black player for the Canadeins as an AA. Dude was from Quebec.
Posted by TbirdSpur2010
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Posted on 5/11/16 at 8:57 pm to
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I get that your a black guy, that's fine. But if you prefer to be called African American, what parts of Africa are you from or originally from? Have you ever been there?


First of all, learn to to read. I posted before you did that I don't have a problem with either "black" or "African American." What's ridiculous is that YOU do.

Secondly, the closest my family can trace the African parts of our heritage ( that's only one part, but also the most obvious ) is "west Africa." That's it. Thanks to the war torn land over there at the time and the slave trade that capitalized upon it. It is what it is.

Thirdly, no, I haven't been there, nor do I intend to go. That isn't relevant in the slightest when it comes to attempting to trace/claim lineage. bullshite tangent on your part.

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If you are here your an american, plain and simple.


I've never claimed to be anything other.

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A white guy is a white guy, we don't claim that we are offended by term.


What works for one group of folks won't always work for every group. We're not homogeneous in this country. Acknowledging such isn't automatically divisive.

Also, white people don't get lit up on forums like these when they trace their lineage to specific families and houses and such in the "old country." Let's not pretend these are equitable circumstances here.

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My heritage is mostly German but I don't demand that people refer to me as German-American or French-American. I'm an American and have been here for generations so none of it matters.



That's all well and good for you.

My surname is German, my great grandfather was Irish, I have native American on both sides, and I claim Texas. Allowing someone to interchange the terms black/AA or someone preferring not to be called "oriental" isn't some terrible inconvenience/absurdity.

Unless you make it one.
Posted by Wtodd
Tampa, FL
Member since Oct 2013
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Posted on 5/12/16 at 6:30 am to
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I'm gonna start writing in that I'm Irish-Scottish-Cherokee American

My Canine-American Chow upvotes this
Posted by slacker130
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Member since Jul 2010
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Posted on 5/12/16 at 7:31 am to
I worked with a white guy that was born in Libya. Any time there was a form or a situation to identify his race, he chose African-American. Then, he'd berate the black guys for selecting the same thing, asking them where they were born.

It always made for a few laughs. Laughing at stuff is way cooler than being offended at everything.
Posted by GumpInLex
Lexington, KY
Member since Nov 2011
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Posted on 5/12/16 at 7:43 am to
My wife is Thai, and honestly i dont really think she'd be offended if someone referred to her as oriental (depending on the context).
She lets me jokingly refer to her as Siamese, so i guess she's chill about stuff like that.
Posted by TbirdSpur2010
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Posted on 5/12/16 at 8:05 am to
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wife is Thai




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depending on the context


All comes down to this, with any term for a demographic, really.

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She lets me jokingly refer to her as Siamese, so i guess she's chill about stuff like that.




My wife is pretty chill about everything but the N-word, which I have been trying in vain to get her to say during sex for years now. Because it makes her uncomfortable and I'm an a-hole


Posted by GumpInLex
Lexington, KY
Member since Nov 2011
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Posted on 5/12/16 at 8:14 am to
Haha thats the beauty of an interracial relationship. There are all sorts of lines to cross and boundaries to push.
Also a lot to learn about culture.

That Thai food though i am spoiled there.
Posted by Old Sarge
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Posted on 5/12/16 at 8:17 am to
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My wife is pretty chill about everything but the N-word, which I have been Because it makes her uncomfortable and


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trying in vain to get her to say now.


Why???? I hate this word with a passion

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during sex for years


Way too much information

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I'm an a-hole


You are but your our a-hole
This post was edited on 5/12/16 at 8:18 am
Posted by TbirdSpur2010
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Posted on 5/12/16 at 8:31 am to
I never developed a taste for Thai food for some reason I know it's good, I'm just not very adventurous.

Thai women, tho....

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thats the beauty of an interracial relationship. There are all sorts of lines to cross and boundaries to push.
Also a lot to learn about culture.


I agree, it's pretty cool. Honestly you and your gal probably had much more of a culture gap to bridge than my wife and I. Outside of the melanin difference, we're pretty similar people. Typical Christian/suburban folk.

We definitely have fun with the pushing of boundaries around other people, though. Especially the ones who don't know either of us that well
Posted by AggieDub14
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Posted on 5/12/16 at 8:45 am to
If someone doesn't want to be called something, you shouldn't call them that. It's my understanding Oriental started out as a word to describe Asian people as savages, but more civilized than other races (n-word).

Big difference between messing with a friend and being a dick though.
This post was edited on 5/12/16 at 8:46 am
Posted by Wtodd
Tampa, FL
Member since Oct 2013
67488 posts
Posted on 5/12/16 at 8:55 am to
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If someone doesn't want to be called something, you shouldn't call them that.

While I agree, how are you to know beforehand? And way too many people go off the deep end over petty bullshite when there was no ill will intended.
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