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Posted on 4/6/16 at 1:08 pm to DynastyDawg
Yes, we should just allow the states to pass whatever laws they please, even if it is clear cut discrimination.
Posted on 4/6/16 at 1:10 pm to DynastyDawg
No, you're being dense because your arguments are not sound arguments. You quite literally said "let people do what the frick they want" earlier.
I'll ask again, are you saying this law shouldn't be worth fretting over because of the small number of business owners that are discriminating against gay people. You implied that so I want to clarify.
I'll ask again, are you saying this law shouldn't be worth fretting over because of the small number of business owners that are discriminating against gay people. You implied that so I want to clarify.
Posted on 4/6/16 at 1:11 pm to cas4t
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Yes, we should just allow the states to pass whatever laws they please, even if it is clear cut discrimination.
tempting... tempting.... nope. not biting.
at the end of the day, freedom is a double edged sword.
Posted on 4/6/16 at 1:12 pm to cas4t
Look, I don't care if people are homosexual or not. I wouldn't refuse anyone service at my establishment, but that's just me.
If I were homosexual I might feel differently, but I'm not.
I don't want the government getting involved in much of anything. So this is just my viewpoint on the topic. I am sorry if you disagree with me and I feel sorry for you if you cannot accept the fact that not everyone feels the same way you do.
If I were homosexual I might feel differently, but I'm not.
I don't want the government getting involved in much of anything. So this is just my viewpoint on the topic. I am sorry if you disagree with me and I feel sorry for you if you cannot accept the fact that not everyone feels the same way you do.
Posted on 4/6/16 at 1:13 pm to 3nOut
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at the end of the day, freedom is a double edged sword.
you don't have the freedom you think you have, and you shouldn't, for the examples I cited earlier regardidng the 1st amendment.
Posted on 4/6/16 at 1:13 pm to cas4t
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No, you're being dense because your arguments are not sound arguments. You quite literally said "let people do what the frick they want" earlier.
My arguments are not sound arguments because I do not agree with you. That is why. Yeah, people should have the freedom to start their own business and do whatever they want with it. I'm sorry if you didn't like my original wording.
Posted on 4/6/16 at 1:14 pm to cas4t
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you don't have the freedom you think you have, and you shouldn't, for the examples I cited earlier regardidng the 1st amendment.
i agree 100%.
Posted on 4/6/16 at 1:15 pm to cas4t
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I'll ask again, are you saying this law shouldn't be worth fretting over because of the small number of business owners that are discriminating against gay people. You implied that so I want to clarify.
No. I'm saying that the law is fine. Not that "it won't be a problem so just let it go."
I believe that there are enough people that would do the right thing and the business would never make it, or if it did then it would barely squeak along.
Posted on 4/6/16 at 1:16 pm to DynastyDawg
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I don't want the government getting involved in much of anything.
how do you feel about child pornography? It's an extremely small % of people who enjoy getting their rocks off on kids.
Since it's such a small % of people, frick it, right?
And it's not that I can't accept our differences. It's that your arguments are not sound. I'll be the first to admit if I'm wrong, and I'm open to changing my mind; I do it all the time. But your line of thinking is so flawed that it's hard to hold back. So sorry for that.
Posted on 4/6/16 at 1:16 pm to DynastyDawg
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You cannot disagree with something and simply tolerate it. You have to participate and celebrate it
They just want you to do your job, whether that's baking a cake, tailoring a suit, etc.
Posted on 4/6/16 at 1:20 pm to cas4t
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And it's not that I can't accept our differences. It's that your arguments are not sound. I'll be the first to admit if I'm wrong, and I'm open to changing my mind;
Nah, man, you are just plain wrong about this. This issue is not a right or wrong, it is a clear cut difference of opinion. You can't tell me that I am wrong about my opinion and I won't tell you that you're wrong about yours. We just disagree and that's fine.
On a much broader topic, this is where a lot of my problems lie with people on the left, democrats, liberals, etc. in general. It can't just be their opinion. You have to like it or agree with it, or you are a bigot, racist, etc.
Posted on 4/6/16 at 1:21 pm to DynastyDawg
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I believe that there are enough people that would do the right thing and the business would never make it
Again, this isn't a matter of economics. None of this is about the business making it. You're looking at it through the lens of the business owner, and how bad of a person he/she is when you should be looking at it from the perspective of the customer.
Why should they be forced to go down the road to another bakery? Hell, I grew up in a small town in TN with 1 baker. you had to drive 30-40 minutes to the nearest town to get to another bakery.
Why should they have to put up with being looked down upon? Why should their inherent way of being dictate where they can shop, eat etc?
Now, go back and read all of those questions and think of the 1960's and blacks instead of homosexuals, and tell me how this is any different.
Posted on 4/6/16 at 1:23 pm to pvilleguru
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They just want you to do your job, whether that's baking a cake, tailoring a suit, etc.
But if they don't approve with their lifestyle, then I don't understand why they are forced to comply.
Think about this, if you had a Islamic owner, that refused service to someone because of his religious beliefs, what do you think would happen to him?
Now, take that answer and ask, why isn't Christianity given the same rights?
Posted on 4/6/16 at 1:23 pm to DynastyDawg
I never called you a bigot or a racist. What are you talking about? 
I've said probably 3 times now that you just didn't have a sound argument.
Your best response yet is "Nah man".
I've said probably 3 times now that you just didn't have a sound argument. Your best response yet is "Nah man".
Posted on 4/6/16 at 1:24 pm to DynastyDawg
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But if they don't approve with their skin color, then I don't understand why they are forced to comply.
see what I mean?
This post was edited on 4/6/16 at 1:25 pm
Posted on 4/6/16 at 1:27 pm to DynastyDawg
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Think about this, if you had a Islamic owner, that refused service to someone because of his religious beliefs, what do you think would happen to him?
Now, take that answer and ask, why isn't Christianity given the same rights?
The point is that religion should never matter. You're completely missing the point. Islam, Christianity, Judaism, etc should never dictate whether someone should or should not agree to bake a cake for someone else. Just bake the fricking cake and go about your day without trying to make someone else's worse.
That's what Jesus would do
Posted on 4/6/16 at 1:29 pm to cas4t
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cas4t
I understand your point, and I agree with some of it. I promise I'm not trying to be a dick about any of this.
I just think everyone should have rights. Not just the people we agree with. I don't agree with the fact that people can be racists, but I feel like it should be their right to be if they want.
Posted on 4/6/16 at 1:30 pm to cas4t
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But if they don't approve with their skin color, then I don't understand why they are forced to comply.
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see what I mean?
Except for in the bible it never said that being black was an abomination. However, it does mention that exact thing about homosexuals.
Now, see what I mean?
Posted on 4/6/16 at 1:32 pm to pvilleguru
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They just want you to do your job, whether that's baking a cake, tailoring a suit, etc
If that was the case, they would go somewhere that doesn't care, get their tailored suit, and go on about their lives. It's about punishing that particular business owner for not showing that sodomy is right and good in the current year.
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