re: Is it O.V. for the dems in the upcoming election?

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You're going to be very surprised, IMO.

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I guess that big movement is why (R) candidates won governorships in places like Maryland, Illinois, Massachusetts, New Mexico, and very nearly Virginia - and why (R) candidates took control of the senate.

ALL of those states went very solidly (D) in the last presidential election and most (maybe all) had (D) governors.

Or the fact that the last 2 presidential elections 3rd party voters didn't like who the republicans decided to nominate and so they didn't vote for them.

Sanders and Clinton attract 0% of The Independent vote.

If Republicans want to win, nominate Cruz or Rand Paul.

I need to read reasons on how you think Ted Cruz has any chance at winning. Namely women and the middle and lower class would be a sufficient start.

Please tell me how he has any chance at getting those votes.

Also, look at his wife's work history before responding please. And then google what America thinks about Wall St (namely Goldman Sachs)

I am concerned there are those on the left that are driving and funding efforts to artificially boost Trump's status. In essence ensuring he gets the nom because they know they can probably pick him apart easier than say Rubio/Cruz/Paul. Media isn't going after him too hard yet. Once he's nominated, they'll release the hounds.

hard to say. Election is 10 months away and we don't even know who the candidates will be.

But right know Sanders outpolls Trump by 5 LINK,

and Hillary outpolls Trump by 2-3 LINK

Rubio outpolls both of them buy a little, but it doesn't seem like the repubs are going to nominate him

and Cruz would get creamed in the general election by almost anybody or almost anybodies dog

Trump would lose to any Democratic candidate, even O'Malley.

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If Trump is the nominee, Democrats win regardless of who is elected. Trump isn't a Republican and it would surprise me if he governs at all like a traditional Republican president.

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This! It makes me wonder why moderates aren't all over him, but in the online polls he crushes everybody (including dems). Maybe the silent majority comes out to vote.

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The minority and millennial turnout this election will be similar in numbers to a mid term congressional election. The novelty and excitement that was there for Obama won't be there for either HRC or Sanders.

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Why would it be like a mid-term election instead of like any other presidential election sans Obama?

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Why would it be like a mid-term election instead of like any other presidential election sans Obama?

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Several reasons.

1) There's the malaise that happens virtually EVERY time one party has held the White House for two terms. Since the end of WWII, the party holding the president's office for two consecutive terms has failed to win a third every time but once - and that sole winner (Bush 1) was a one term president. No matter the party, the 'undecideds' get tired of the party in office and that party's dedicated voters get complacent. Since the Democratic party is in power now it is they're the ones facing the negative effect.

2) Hillary's not a particularly exciting candidate. She's got the infrastructure, but as a person she's just blah and completely lacks the charisma of Bill. Sanders excites his base tremendously but he has an incredibly devastating effect on others. For every 'undecided' vote he gains, he's going run another off.

3) Obama brought out the minority vote like no candidate simply because he was black. In both the 2008 and 2012 elections, black voter turnout (as a percentage) was much higher than white voter turnout by a very significant and historic margin. Hillary and Bernie won't have the same success in getting that vote out.