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Is it O.V. for the dems in the upcoming election?
Posted on 1/29/16 at 12:43 pm
Posted on 1/29/16 at 12:43 pm
Trump appearing stronger than ever and the dems just don't have a candidate that can match up
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Posted on 1/29/16 at 12:45 pm to Ansu Sesay
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dong
Made this entire thread worth it
Posted on 1/29/16 at 12:46 pm to CNB
Damned auto correct
Posted on 1/29/16 at 12:53 pm to Ansu Sesay
Trump sucks but so does Hillary and Bernie, this country is fricked.
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Posted on 1/29/16 at 12:56 pm to Ansu Sesay
The Donald will not beat Hilldog or Bern
Posted on 1/29/16 at 12:58 pm to boogiewoogie1978
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The Donald will not beat Hilldog or Bern
Trump's got momentum, but I'm still not sold he'll be the nominee.
If he is, Trump v. Hillary will be a contest.
Trump or any other (R) will utterly wipe the floor with Bernie Sanders.
Posted on 1/29/16 at 1:03 pm to JustGetItRight
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Trump or any other (R) will utterly wipe the floor with Bernie Sanders.
I think you underestimate minorities and millenials.
Posted on 1/29/16 at 1:05 pm to JustGetItRight
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Trump or any other (R) will utterly wipe the floor with Bernie Sanders.
I highly doubt that
Posted on 1/29/16 at 1:19 pm to Ansu Sesay
I think Trump has about hit his ceiling of support. He'll pick up some if he's the GOP nominee simply from folks that vote R regardless, but won't get near enough support of moderates and undecideds that he'll need to win the general, regardless of who he is up against.
Posted on 1/29/16 at 1:26 pm to Rebel Land Shark
If Trump is the nominee, Democrats win regardless of who is elected. Trump isn't a Republican and it would surprise me if he governs at all like a traditional Republican president.
Posted on 1/29/16 at 1:36 pm to The Spleen
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I think Trump has about hit his ceiling of support. He'll pick up some if he's the GOP nominee simply from folks that vote R regardless, but won't get near enough support of moderates and undecideds that he'll need to win the general, regardless of who he is up against.
Yes he will. Bernie Sanders socialist/anti business past will bring out the voters in masses. Those moderates and undecideds will all swing (R). It won't be about supporting Trump, it will be about stopping Sanders. The defeat would be Mondale-esque.
HRC is a different story. She likely beats Trump, but right now she's facing a problem similar to the one faced by the (R)s. The people that would elect her over Trump in a general election aren't voting in anywhere close to the same numbers in the (D) primary.
Posted on 1/29/16 at 1:37 pm to WheelRoute
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f Trump is the nominee, Democrats win regardless of who is elected. Trump isn't a Republican and it would surprise me if he governs at all like a traditional Republican president.
I don't disagree with this assessment at all. I'm merely handicapping potential matchups.
Posted on 1/29/16 at 1:40 pm to JustGetItRight
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The defeat would be Mondale-esque.
Well that's just ridiculous.
Posted on 1/29/16 at 1:48 pm to cas4t
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I think you underestimate minorities and millenials.
No, I'm not.
The minority and millennial turnout this election will be similar in numbers to a mid term congressional election. The novelty and excitement that was there for Obama won't be there for either HRC or Sanders. Further, I think you're underestimating the number of those people that will vote for Trump simply because they watched him on The Apprentice and/or he talks brash. That machismo (fake as it may be) resonates with more than a few people.
I underestimated Trump early in the process. Not anymore. He may very well win the whole thing.
Finally, to restate, he isn't my candidate. I'm conservative, Trump isn't. If he is the (R) nominee, I'll hold my nose and vote for him because I can't support either of the (D) candidates (I'd vote for Bill Clinton over Trump but unfortunately it is his wife that's running). I'm just calling the race as I see it right now.
Posted on 1/29/16 at 1:50 pm to The Spleen
RCP picks
One thing I have noticed that Trump has accomplished is motivated the Hispanics. They fricking hate him and are registering to vote in droves.
One thing I have noticed that Trump has accomplished is motivated the Hispanics. They fricking hate him and are registering to vote in droves.
Posted on 1/29/16 at 1:57 pm to JustGetItRight
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The minority and millennial turnout this election will be similar in numbers to a mid term congressional election. The novelty and excitement that was there for Obama won't be there for either HRC or Sanders.
You do realize Sanders has been drawing larger crowds than Obama did at this point of their respective campaigns, and a large portion of his crowd are millenials right? Sanders hasn't gotten there yet with minorities, but their support will be a slam dunk if Trump is the GOP nominee, especially among Hispanic voters.
Posted on 1/29/16 at 2:09 pm to The Spleen
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You do realize Sanders has been drawing larger crowds than Obama did at this point of their respective campaigns, and a large portion of his crowd are millenials right? Sanders hasn't gotten there yet with minorities, but their support will be a slam dunk if Trump is the GOP nominee, especially among Hispanic voters.
Nobody's turned their attention to Sanders yet. If he wins the nomination, he's going to be in a tough spot answering questions about his past stance on immigration (hint: he would fit in nicely with Rs) and other issues (gun control, for example). Further, his socialist stances will turn moderates away in droves.
In a nutshell, he's not all that different from Trump in the sense that all of a sudden his positions on several significant issues are vastly different that they've ever been in the past.
Posted on 1/29/16 at 2:13 pm to JustGetItRight
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Yes he will. Bernie Sanders socialist/anti business past will bring out the voters in masses. Those moderates and undecideds will all swing (R). It won't be about supporting Trump, it will be about stopping Sanders. The defeat would be Mondale-esque.
HRC is a different story. She likely beats Trump, but right now she's facing a problem similar to the one faced by the (R)s. The people that would elect her over Trump in a general election aren't voting in anywhere close to the same numbers in the (D) primary.
Trump will not even contend if he gets nominated, Republican debates are super easy. When tough questions come up he will be in significant trouble.
Sanders or Clinton will win in a landslide, Republicans will reshuffle the party. Trump cannot win the Republican Nomination, it's gonna be real bad if he does.
Posted on 1/29/16 at 2:19 pm to StrawsDrawnAtRandom
As the field narrows, Trump will be forced to answer ever more questions I each debate. His lack of knowledge becoming evermore apparent.
Posted on 1/29/16 at 2:24 pm to Duke
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As the field narrows, Trump will be forced to answer ever more questions in each debate. His lack of knowledge becoming evermore apparent.
Yep. And the questions will devastating for Trump who...has no knowledge on policy whatsoever. If he goes up against Hillary, it will be a beating we've never seen before in politics.
It could be worse or better with Sanders, who is less likely to get flustered than Hillary, but man I feel bad for the Republican Party that we're even thinking about a Trump nomination.
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