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Ramblin Wreck
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Interesting NY Times article on University of Alabama and USCe
Not sports related, but discusses the strategies used to increase enrollment.

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Cdawg
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re: Interesting NY Times article on University of Alabama and USCe
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Alabamians are now just 43 percent of the student body





GetCocky11
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re: Interesting NY Times article on University of Alabama and USCe
Yeah, that is crazy low.


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NYCAuburn
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re: Interesting NY Times article on University of Alabama and USCe
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Alabamians are now just 43 percent of the student body


I think they have maintained the same actual number of Alabamians, total enrollment has dramatically increased


Crimson Wraith
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re: Interesting NY Times article on University of Alabama and USCe
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Alabamians are now just 43 percent of the student body


Just means more money from out of state tuition.


BradPitt
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re: Interesting NY Times article on University of Alabama and USCe
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Alabamians are now just 43 percent of the student body


Alabama... soon to be the new SJWU of the west


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TideCPA
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re: Interesting NY Times article on University of Alabama and USCe
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I think they have maintained the same actual number of Alabamians, total enrollment has dramatically increased



That's correct.

They started the growth initiative when I was there but it didn't really take off until Saban arrived and the football brand propelled it along. In terms of the value he brings to UA as a whole, Saban is arguably significantly underpaid.


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jlovel7
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re: Interesting NY Times article on University of Alabama and USCe
The huge amount of out of state kids waters down the authentic culture you get from the school. im an out of state student myself, but I don't want to go to school somewhere where I'll hardly meet anybody who actually lives and breathes the place I'm in. I'm glad that the extreme majority of people I have met st college are from long lines of Louisiana families who have shown me the time of my life here.

Whenever I visit my friends and family at WVU, everyone I meet that they hang out with isn't even from WV, so the experience I get while I'm there is a far cry from the one I'd get if I actually met people who grew up in the culture.


Pride of Georgia
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re: Interesting NY Times article on University of Alabama and USCe
Average IQ and SAT scores must be trending up as a result.


TxTiger82
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re: Interesting NY Times article on University of Alabama and USCe
I visited Tuscaloosa recently, and I can attest that the place is changing rapidly. So much money coming in from the outside. New condos, shops, restaurants are going up monthly. Tuscaloosa is booming, and UA's strategy is working. It won't be long before they start climbing up the USN&WR rankings.

LSU, meanwhile, is taking the opposite approach. SAD.


pvilleguru
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re: Interesting NY Times article on University of Alabama and USCe
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Average SAT scores must be trending up as a result.

They are.


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AUCE05
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re: Interesting NY Times article on University of Alabama and USCe
I have mixed feelings on this. My undergraduate degree is from AU, and currently in the UA system for grad school. I typically want both schools to excel for the betterment of the state. I just don't want the board to take on too many liabilities for the sake of growth. But I do hope the grads from both schools migrate to Bham post graduation help the state, and keep tax dollars here.


pvilleguru
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re: Interesting NY Times article on University of Alabama and USCe
Don't visit a college for the local culture.


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pvilleguru
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re: Interesting NY Times article on University of Alabama and USCe
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But I do hope the grads from both schools migrate to Bham post graduation help the state, and keep tax dollars here.
A large portion of the OOS students at UA will leave the state after graduation, but it increases the odds that some of them will stay.


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scrooster
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re: Interesting NY Times article on University of Alabama and USCe
I'm happy that South Carolina is doing what it is doing ... Alabama alumni should feel the same way about what they are doing.

1 - It leaves us less beholding to the state government powers that be, from a financial standpoint, and allows us to be more autonomous with our fundraising efforts and how we spend our money.

2 - It builds the talent pool in state. A lot of these kids will end up staying here, while others will move on and do well and donate their fair share when the time comes.

3 - It teaches yankee kids that all the negative bull shite they've heard their entire lives about the south, is just that, negative bull shite.


TxTiger82
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re: Interesting NY Times article on University of Alabama and USCe
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But I do hope the grads from both schools migrate to Bham post graduation help the state, and keep tax dollars here.


That would be ideal for the State's economy, and Birmingham will clearly benefit from UA's growth to a certain extent.

But the flip side is that becoming an international R1 powerhouse means creating a silo economy that doesn't necessarily benefit the rest of the state ... money comes in with the students, but a lot of the talent will leave for places like Atlanta, Houston, New Orleans, New York, Chicago, and LA.

That's the way it is in a lot of similar places around the country like Ann Arbor, MI or Charlottesville, VA. The elite schools are all doing it.



TheCaterpillar
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re: Interesting NY Times article on University of Alabama and USCe
Ole Miss is mostly out of state as well and has been for a few years I believe.

More money and a biggerumni footprint are good for the school.


jlc05
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re: Interesting NY Times article on University of Alabama and USCe
2120 SAT gets you an interview for Columbia and admitted into Berkeley?


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Gary Busey
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re: Interesting NY Times article on University of Alabama and USCe
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But I do hope the grads from both schools migrate to Bham post graduation help the state, and keep tax dollars here.


Good luck with that. Majoring in TCF and set to graduate in May and more than half of the students in my classes are going back home after graduation. If they're not going back home, they're getting jobs and internships at more booming economies (Nashville for example).


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AUCE05
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re: Interesting NY Times article on University of Alabama and USCe
You also have to expand your facilities to accommodate the influx of bodies, which could bite you if your enrollment dips. Stanford, etc keeps enrollment down, and they have excess funds for research, etc. The problem with us is both state schools have tiny endowments, which puts us behind the curve.


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