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re: Interesting NY Times article on University of Alabama and USCe

Posted on 11/8/16 at 11:11 am to
Posted by Kentucker
Cincinnati, KY
Member since Apr 2013
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Posted on 11/8/16 at 11:11 am to
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All the southern public universities that are worth a damn have went or are going this route .


UK certainly is. State funding is at 8% and dropping. UK's enrollment is rapidly increasing and is accommodated by new construction in the last 10 years of new dorms, classroom buildings and research facilities. The new enrollment figures include many students from Ohio, Pennsylvania, Michigan, Illinois and the Northeast, heavily populated areas that have lots of affluent kids who want to go to school out of state.
Posted by mikeb0870
Member since Sep 2015
366 posts
Posted on 11/8/16 at 11:23 am to
Well state school but not a part of of UA system, I stand corrected.
Posted by TeLeFaWx
Dallas, TX
Member since Aug 2011
29177 posts
Posted on 11/8/16 at 11:50 am to
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I think net/net it will benefit the state over the long term.


How? You're taking a smaller and smaller percentage of native Alabama kids relative to the overall population each year. If your population has grown 15% over the past ten years, but you're taking a fixed number of native Alabamians, you're doing it wrong.
Posted by TeLeFaWx
Dallas, TX
Member since Aug 2011
29177 posts
Posted on 11/8/16 at 11:59 am to
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Are you serious everyone or each university has it flaws and strengths. Whether it from a geological location or programs they offer. Growing the area they are in is key to attracting talent and resources.


How is educating people that are going to leave, while starving the native population of higher education, a strength? It helps the bottom line, but it doesn't serve the function that the namesake implies.
Posted by TideCPA
Member since Jan 2012
10341 posts
Posted on 11/8/16 at 12:13 pm to
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If your population has grown 15% over the past ten years


It hasn't. More like 2%. That translates into a couple hundred students over that time frame, or 15 students per class. The offsetting benefit of a few % of the OOS students settling in Alabama is arguably greater.
Posted by TeLeFaWx
Dallas, TX
Member since Aug 2011
29177 posts
Posted on 11/8/16 at 12:17 pm to
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It hasn't. More like 2%. That translates into a couple hundred students over that time frame, or 15 students per class. The offsetting benefit of a few % of the OOS students settling in Alabama is arguably greater.


Alabama has only grown 2%? Are your major cities dying?
Posted by TideCPA
Member since Jan 2012
10341 posts
Posted on 11/8/16 at 12:37 pm to
It's probably higher than 2% now that I'm looking at the data, but it isn't anywhere close to 15%. The state's estimated growth from 2010-2015 was 1.6%. The major cities are pretty much breaking even, except for Huntsville, which is growing somewhat.
Posted by Evolved Simian
Bushwood Country Club
Member since Sep 2010
20469 posts
Posted on 11/8/16 at 2:17 pm to
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How? You're taking a smaller and smaller percentage of native Alabama kids relative to the overall population each year.


No, they're not. The number of in state students has grown proportionally more than the population increase.
Posted by TeLeFaWx
Dallas, TX
Member since Aug 2011
29177 posts
Posted on 11/8/16 at 6:03 pm to
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No, they're not. The number of in state students has grown proportionally more than the population increase.


The discussion in here has made me believe that the overall number of native Alabamians has remained constant, while the population of the state has grown.
Posted by Evolved Simian
Bushwood Country Club
Member since Sep 2010
20469 posts
Posted on 11/8/16 at 9:43 pm to
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The discussion in here has made me believe that the overall number of native Alabamians has remained constant, while the population of the state has grown.



It hasn't quite remained constant. It has increased as well, but the number of students recruited from other states has increased dramatically.
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