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re: If you could talk to the minority students at your school, what would you say?
Posted on 11/11/15 at 9:29 pm to Carolina Tide
Posted on 11/11/15 at 9:29 pm to Carolina Tide
I'd say, "Can I get some muscle over here?"
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Posted on 11/11/15 at 9:32 pm to the808bass
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The first task in attacking problems with difficult people is discerning to what degree the problem actually affects your life and not your feelings.
Is this a person with whom you are forced to share space (live with or work alongside)? That makes for a real problem.
Is this a person who has power over your life as a teacher, administrator or boss? That's an even bigger problem.
Is this some rando on the street? frick em. (Not literally. That's frowned upon. Unless you get consent.)
The reality is that you will face people in your life who will make your life difficult for any number of reasons. It could be race, jealousy or any number of their own internal issues which become yours by extension. Learning to appropriately deal with those people is a huge part of life and a skill which will enable you to advance and succeed in the game of Life.
I can't handle your posts any longer, just stop it.
The logic....we don't need logic, we don't use logic. It's only for truth and thinking.
We need emotion to live. Emotions should be all that guide your thoughts.
I need a safe space with nothing but emotions and words that confirm and affirm my emotions. Nothing else matters.
Posted on 11/11/15 at 9:33 pm to Vols&Shaft83
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"Where dem motherfrickers at, lemme grab my bricks".
I am with the Teddy Bear lover....but I don't need no fricking brick.
Seriously though, my little sister is adopted and I dealt with tons ignorance growing up. Now my best friend is a black surgeon. We've dealt with some really funny ignorant shite together but I guarantee you that if anyone ever called him a n**** in my presence I would end up in jail for beating the ever living shite out of them.
Posted on 11/11/15 at 9:34 pm to Carolina Tide
It would depend on who the racist person was and the situation honestly. If it was a roommate I'd tell him to confront the roommate about it if it was just a "feeling" because sometimes those feelings are really insecurity by the minority person feeling out of place and thinking that maybe the other person doesn't like him/her and perhaps if he/she approached said roommate he/she would find that isn't the case. If it's blatant racism I would suggest finding a new roommate.
If it's a random person I would say just let it go and don't associate with that person. If it's a person of authority I would say go to the proper authorities and make it known that you're being harassed/discriminated against.
If it's a random person I would say just let it go and don't associate with that person. If it's a person of authority I would say go to the proper authorities and make it known that you're being harassed/discriminated against.
Posted on 11/11/15 at 9:35 pm to sullivanct19a
Sorry. Shoulda put a trigger warning on that.
Posted on 11/11/15 at 9:42 pm to Carolina Tide
It really depends on the situation is, if it's some of the old fashioned subvert racism that old money practices I don't really know what you can do tbh. If it's truly overt racism then I'd try and help them do something about it, what that is I haven't a clue it would depend on the situation. I know I sound like a politician but I really can't tell you how I'd react or what I'd do until it was in front of me and I could assess the problem.
Posted on 11/11/15 at 9:43 pm to Agforlife
That's an intelligent answer.
There is no silver bullet.
There is no silver bullet.
Posted on 11/11/15 at 9:45 pm to TbirdSpur2010
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That's an intelligent answer.
Just cause I'm an uneducated reformed tpos don't mean I has the stupids
Eta: whoever downvoted this doesn't know Tbird's or my sense of humor
This post was edited on 11/11/15 at 10:09 pm
Posted on 11/11/15 at 9:46 pm to the808bass
As 34 year old black male born and raised in Alabama, I would be skeptical of allegations of persistent overt racism. In my conversations with my fellow black brothers and sisters I find most claims of racism to be flimsy at best and most have other explanations other than racism.
I have only been subject to overt racism maybe 3 times in my entire life. Once, when in elementary, my female neighbor called me the N-word, which was the only time in my life that has ever happened to me. The other time, I was skipping school and riding my bike through a upper income neighborhood. This old white lady rode up beside me and asked me what I was doing there and told me that I didn't belong there. I ignored her and kept on peddling.
The last time I was a busboy at a restaurant, and I had this good ol' boy ask me "hey, boy, will you tell my waitress to bring us some rolls". Not sure if he called me "boy" because I was 15 or because I was black. He may have referred to all teenagers as "boy". So, I will count that as a "P".
I have only been subject to overt racism maybe 3 times in my entire life. Once, when in elementary, my female neighbor called me the N-word, which was the only time in my life that has ever happened to me. The other time, I was skipping school and riding my bike through a upper income neighborhood. This old white lady rode up beside me and asked me what I was doing there and told me that I didn't belong there. I ignored her and kept on peddling.
The last time I was a busboy at a restaurant, and I had this good ol' boy ask me "hey, boy, will you tell my waitress to bring us some rolls". Not sure if he called me "boy" because I was 15 or because I was black. He may have referred to all teenagers as "boy". So, I will count that as a "P".
Posted on 11/11/15 at 10:02 pm to gdzgft28
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I was skipping school and riding my bike through a upper income neighborhood. This old white lady rode up beside me and asked me what I was doing there and told me that I didn't belong there
This may not have been racism. I did the same thing, and an old white lady said the same thing to me.
Of course, I did have my hat on backwards, and my boxers may have been slightly exposed.
Posted on 11/11/15 at 10:03 pm to gdzgft28
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This old white lady rode up beside me and asked me what I was doing there and told me that I didn't belong there. I ignored her and kept on peddling.
Wow that's crazy to have an adult say that to a kid. Damn.
Good thing you weren't walking, they'd have the cops roll up on you..
Posted on 11/11/15 at 10:05 pm to gdzgft28
Would you say your expirence with racism is above or below average in frequency based on conversations with other black individuals living in the south?
Racism is a difficult concept for a lot of white people to grasp because its practically non existent towards whites. I always found white people speaking about racism In a matter of fact tone very naïve.
As for the OP, I delt with a situation similar when a friend of mine got called in the Nword in high school. He was the only black kid in the school, adopted by white parents, so he naturally felt insanely out of place but he got along good to great with most of the white kids. Again naturally there were some shitty people, one of whom called my friend the Nword after a fight with him. My friend lost it. It was on me to calm him down, so I took him by the shoulders and walked him away from the kid. I told him that kid was a piece of shite, commented on how trashy that kids family was, and immediately tried to get his mind on something else. I think it was football practice. My friend calmed down but was definitely on edge for the next couple days. I can't imagine the added difficulty of being the only black kid in an entire high school. That's really the only time I've ever seen blatant, in your face, racism first hand.
Racism is a difficult concept for a lot of white people to grasp because its practically non existent towards whites. I always found white people speaking about racism In a matter of fact tone very naïve.
As for the OP, I delt with a situation similar when a friend of mine got called in the Nword in high school. He was the only black kid in the school, adopted by white parents, so he naturally felt insanely out of place but he got along good to great with most of the white kids. Again naturally there were some shitty people, one of whom called my friend the Nword after a fight with him. My friend lost it. It was on me to calm him down, so I took him by the shoulders and walked him away from the kid. I told him that kid was a piece of shite, commented on how trashy that kids family was, and immediately tried to get his mind on something else. I think it was football practice. My friend calmed down but was definitely on edge for the next couple days. I can't imagine the added difficulty of being the only black kid in an entire high school. That's really the only time I've ever seen blatant, in your face, racism first hand.
This post was edited on 11/11/15 at 10:07 pm
Posted on 11/11/15 at 10:30 pm to Agforlife
All good answers by everyone here. And yeah there are just some forms of racism which you just can't fight.
This post was edited on 11/11/15 at 10:48 pm
Posted on 11/11/15 at 10:36 pm to ABearsFanNMS
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I am with the Teddy Bear lover....but I don't need no fricking brick.
Seriously though, my little sister is adopted and I dealt with tons ignorance growing up
Got two myself.
Getting ready for the Zombie Run a couple weekends ago. One is mixed black/white. Other is mixed Latino/white. Best kids in the world.
Doing everything I can to bring them up racially neutral. They aren't any different than other kids, I don't want their expectations to be any different.
This post was edited on 11/11/15 at 10:48 pm
Posted on 11/11/15 at 10:36 pm to Carolina Tide
You know what? I've been waiting and hoping someone would post a thoughtful, and thought provoking, threat about race. Discussion and dialogue is good.
This is a great question. I'm not a student anymore, but I saw instances of racism in school and in the workplace. It would depend on the person and the situation. But unless it was a case where someone felt unsafe or discriminated against, in which case you take it to a person in authority, I'd echo my mom. Whenever I ran into someone who was mean to me, or made fun of me, she would always say, "Semo, consider the source. Then ignore it and just go on."
What she meant was that when people say unkind things, you have to realize it's a reflection of them. You get to decide if you think it's valid. And if it's not, ignore it and move on. Not everyone is going to like you, that's life. But you get to decide how you react to that. Someone can only make you feel bad, or small, with your permission. YOU get to own that - it's an empowering message, and one that's helped me several times.
The other thing I'd do is tell them that while you can't control the assholes of the world, that in MY eyes they were a great person with lots to offer. Sometimes, people just need to be told they're valuable. Especially when they're down about the assholes of the world.
This is a great question. I'm not a student anymore, but I saw instances of racism in school and in the workplace. It would depend on the person and the situation. But unless it was a case where someone felt unsafe or discriminated against, in which case you take it to a person in authority, I'd echo my mom. Whenever I ran into someone who was mean to me, or made fun of me, she would always say, "Semo, consider the source. Then ignore it and just go on."
What she meant was that when people say unkind things, you have to realize it's a reflection of them. You get to decide if you think it's valid. And if it's not, ignore it and move on. Not everyone is going to like you, that's life. But you get to decide how you react to that. Someone can only make you feel bad, or small, with your permission. YOU get to own that - it's an empowering message, and one that's helped me several times.
The other thing I'd do is tell them that while you can't control the assholes of the world, that in MY eyes they were a great person with lots to offer. Sometimes, people just need to be told they're valuable. Especially when they're down about the assholes of the world.
Posted on 11/11/15 at 10:41 pm to Carolina Tide
I generally say a little prayer that goes something like "God thank you for putting this a-hole in front of me to teach me patience, love and tolerance"
Posted on 11/11/15 at 11:03 pm to semotruman
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You know what? I've been waiting and hoping someone would post a thoughtful, and thought provoking, threat about race. Discussion and dialogue is good.
This is a great question. I'm not a student anymore, but I saw instances of racism in school and in the workplace. It would depend on the person and the situation. But unless it was a case where someone felt unsafe or discriminated against, in which case you take it to a person in authority, I'd echo my mom. Whenever I ran into someone who was mean to me, or made fun of me, she would always say, "Semo, consider the source. Then ignore it and just go on."
What she meant was that when people say unkind things, you have to realize it's a reflection of them. You get to decide if you think it's valid. And if it's not, ignore it and move on. Not everyone is going to like you, that's life. But you get to decide how you react to that. Someone can only make you feel bad, or small, with your permission. YOU get to own that - it's an empowering message, and one that's helped me several times.
The other thing I'd do is tell them that while you can't control the assholes of the world, that in MY eyes they were a great person with lots to offer. Sometimes, people just need to be told they're valuable. Especially when they're down about the assholes of the world.
This is really good, and I agree with your mom. My mom said something similar to that too (but she is also a woman who doesn't take any shite from anyone.
) Posted on 11/12/15 at 7:20 am to Carolina Tide
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If you could talk to the minority students at your school, what would you say?
GROW THE frick UP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Posted on 11/12/15 at 7:43 am to Carolina Tide
Nín hao.
Posted on 11/12/15 at 7:45 am to ABearsFanNMS
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Now my best friend is a black surgeon.
It's Ben Carson...amiright?
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