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re: If ya voted for Osama, errr, Obama and you regret check in
Posted on 6/10/14 at 12:09 pm to TreyAnastasio
Posted on 6/10/14 at 12:09 pm to TreyAnastasio
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FInal approval for the prisoner exchange that freed Sgt. Bowe Bergdahl was made by Secretary of Defense Chuck Hagel, members of Congress learned on Monday from administration officials.
'They indicated (it was) Secretary Hagel (who made the final call),
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Particularly galling for lawmakers was one detail that emerged in the closed-door briefing Monday night with administration officials — 80-90 members of the government knew of the swap in advance but not a single member of Congress.
Associated Press website
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Posted on 6/10/14 at 12:10 pm to Alahunter
That doesnt say he lied about anything
Posted on 6/10/14 at 12:13 pm to The Spleen
I hate this idea the president is responsible for all things good and bad in America. He's not a bloody king.
Posted on 6/10/14 at 12:14 pm to Duke
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I hate this idea the president is responsible for all things good and bad in America. He's not a bloody king.
Posted on 6/10/14 at 12:15 pm to The Spleen
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The immigration problem and the meme that he doesn't enforce the current laws when there have actually been more deportations under his presidency than any other
I guess you've missed where thousands are being shipped into Arizona, without notifying them, and their advertising in Central America that children won't deported? Or how about the recent press release, saying we need to provide lawyers for these illegals finding their way across the border?
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That's not how an investigation works
Agree. But there needs to be one, and there really hasn't been. Holder is under Contempt for refusing to release documents and nothing has been done to compel him to from the President. In fact, he's got the President's full support.
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Portions of the bailout I would label as good things. The American auto industry is thriving again.
It would without the bailout. It shouldn't be Gov't obligation to rescue failed business models. Let bad business die and good business flourish. It's the way free enterprise works. There are many issues I have with corporate bailouts and subsidies. It's not a Dem/Rep thing.
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I think many of the Obamacare changes will go down as good things(pre-existing conditions, maximum out of pocket, etc).
Unfortunately, the bad outweighs the good. The right thing to have done, would have been pre-existing coverage and opening state lines for competition. As far as out of pocket, being an individual policy holder, I am paying more for my premiums and my out of pocket has gotten much more expensive. It will hit everyone else within the year. The costs are still hidden for the majority at this time.
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Stopped "enhanced interrogation"(rorture) of POW's
Waterboarding? Meh..
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I could go on, but I think that's plenty for now.
I think there hasn't been anything shown yet.
Posted on 6/10/14 at 12:15 pm to The Spleen
yeah... double post there...
This post was edited on 6/10/14 at 12:16 pm
Posted on 6/10/14 at 12:17 pm to Duke
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He's not a bloody king.
He has a pen though.
Seriously, he's 6 yrs in and every scandal is at the feet of his appointees, and he has yet to take real action against any of them or forced policy changes as a result. That, to me, gives tacit approval for their actions.
Posted on 6/10/14 at 12:22 pm to Duke
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He's not a bloody king
I also agree with that. However, someone should tell him. For example, the law that says Congress had to be notified 30 days in advance and that was signed by him? He stated after signing, that he didn't have to abide by that law, due to executive privilege.
Posted on 6/10/14 at 12:24 pm to Alahunter
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I think there hasn't been anything shown yet.
There has, which is the point. I can sit here all day listing good things that have happened for this country while Obama was president, and you'd poo-poo on all of them.
Posted on 6/10/14 at 12:27 pm to The Spleen
No, I posted what's going on currently. Immigration is far from a good thing under him, especially right now. Hell, hundreds at one facility are having to use only 4 restrooms, because of his decision to have them shipped to Arizona. What's good about that? What is good about shipping hundreds a day into a State, without even notifying that State that you're doing it?
You also realize, that tens of thousands of violent illegal aliens were released as well, right?
All I asked for is what is good. I still ask that, and I'd prefer the overall situation, not a one sided look at it.
eta- you also left off where we were spending a lot of money advertising in Mexico on how to come and apply for welfare and food stamps.
You also realize, that tens of thousands of violent illegal aliens were released as well, right?
All I asked for is what is good. I still ask that, and I'd prefer the overall situation, not a one sided look at it.
eta- you also left off where we were spending a lot of money advertising in Mexico on how to come and apply for welfare and food stamps.
This post was edited on 6/10/14 at 12:28 pm
Posted on 6/10/14 at 12:38 pm to TreyAnastasio
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Obama will go down as one of this country's best Presidents, no matter how much you redneck republicans hate him because he is black.
syndromic intellectual disability
Posted on 6/10/14 at 12:38 pm to The Spleen
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The immigration problem and the meme that he doesn't enforce the current laws when there have actually been more deportations under his presidency than any other.
They've just changed the definition of deportations.
Posted on 6/10/14 at 12:39 pm to Alahunter
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you also left off where we were spending a lot of money advertising in Mexico on how to come and apply for welfare and food stamps.
Fox News Link from 2012
Both the Spanish-language ad campaign and the U.S.-Mexico partnership were launched under the George W. Bush administration. The partnership dates back to 2004 -- it was signed between then-Agriculture Secretary Ann Veneman and Mexico's foreign affairs secretary at the time. The USDA says on its website that it is meant to "educate eligible Mexican nationals living in the United States about available nutrition assistance." To do that, Mexico distributes materials through its embassy and 50 consular offices.
The USDA ended the campaign following criticism,
This post was edited on 6/10/14 at 12:42 pm
Posted on 6/10/14 at 12:41 pm to Alahunter
Well I didn't mention the immigration situation as a good thing. I used that as an example of a fabricated scandal. If you haven't been paying attention immigration has been FUBAR in this country for decades. This didn't just magically start in January 09. In fact, it was Saint Ronnie that first granted amnesty in the 80's. I only brought it up to discredit the meme that Obama and his DOJ don't enforce immigration laws when in actuality deportations are up since he became president. Now, is he and his DOJ enforcing ALL of the immigration laws to the fullest extent that they are written? Of course not, but then no other president before him did. But like I said earlier, since it's Obama with a D next to his name, the buck stops with him and he MUST be held accountable for the immigration problem in this country according to the Republicans.
Posted on 6/10/14 at 12:43 pm to The Spleen
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This didn't just magically start in January 09. In fact, it was Saint Ronnie that first granted amnesty in the 80's.
Conveniently forgotten by many when discussing immigration.
Posted on 6/10/14 at 12:47 pm to JoeMoTiger
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If ya voted for Osama
When you say things like this, you lose all credibility.
I'm not a fan of Obama, but he's been no worse than the last Bush.
Posted on 6/10/14 at 12:48 pm to The Spleen
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only brought it up to discredit the meme that Obama and his DOJ don't enforce immigration laws when in actuality deportations are up since he became president.
They've just changed the definition of deportation.
Secondly, do they count someone as "deported" when they are judicially ruled to be deported or do they count them deported when they are actually, physically deported.
Posted on 6/10/14 at 12:48 pm to CatFan81
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I'm not a fan of Obama, but he's been no worse than the last Bush.
Exactly
Posted on 6/10/14 at 12:50 pm to TreyAnastasio
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Obama will go down as one of this country's best Presidents, no matter how much you redneck republicans hate him because he is black.
He'll be talked of in the moment as one of the best because of the media, but history will remember him as a poor leader.
Posted on 6/10/14 at 12:52 pm to the808bass
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Secondly, do they count someone as "deported" when they are judicially ruled to be deported or do they count them deported when they are actually, physically deported.
I'm pretty sure you only get deported if:
A. You commit a crime (felony) in the US, whether here legally or illegally.
B. They catch you crossing illegally.
I don't think you get deported if you're illegal and caught driving without a license, etc.
I could be wrong, but that's what it seems like to me.
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