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Posted on 6/4/16 at 12:35 pm to CCTider
Posted on 6/4/16 at 12:35 pm to CCTider
Since I'm bored at work, another update.
I think the plants were crispy from nutrient burn. I stopped fertilizing those particular plants, and just gave them water. They are looking good now, especially the blue dream that was slightly burnt. That's become my healthiest, largest plant.
blue dream on the far right
I did perform am experiment with my purple dream plants. I only had enough of the Dr Earth's organic soil for one plant. So one is in organic soil, the other in regular miracle grow potting soil. The one put in organic soil was bigger and healthier looking. All the miracle grow plants are doing incredible since their transplant.
Now, the one in miracle grow is looking much better. Both started to bud a couple weeks ago. But that was probably from switching from 18+ to 14 hours of sunlight. They have since returned to their vegetative state, and have been getting bigger again. I have some 10 gallon fabric pots on the way. I can't wait to see them a couple weeks after transplanting them.
Right now, I have 2 Purple Dreams, a Blue Dream, Jenny Kush, Mango Stomper, Chemdawg, Lee Roy (anyone familiar with this?), Sweet Tooth, Agent Orange, and Cheesel. I'm tempted to get a couple more, for an even dozen, but only if I can get a specific strain (I want some damn Durban Poison of a nearly pure sativa strain). But since I'm potentially dealing with a few pounds with my current crop, I'm not too worried about it. Plus, a local dispensary had a memorial day sale with any strain for $70 ounces, so I might probably have enough herb until harvest time.
I do have some questions about pesticides. Is it something I should add as a preventative measure? There aren't many bugs in Colorado, and haven't seen any evidence of any pests. But I'd hate to have them show up and screws things up late in the season, and ruin my crop. I know they use them for indoor grows, and since I'm going outdoors, I'm thinking it might be time to add something. Or is that more of a concern when I hit the flowering stage?
I think the plants were crispy from nutrient burn. I stopped fertilizing those particular plants, and just gave them water. They are looking good now, especially the blue dream that was slightly burnt. That's become my healthiest, largest plant.
blue dream on the far right I did perform am experiment with my purple dream plants. I only had enough of the Dr Earth's organic soil for one plant. So one is in organic soil, the other in regular miracle grow potting soil. The one put in organic soil was bigger and healthier looking. All the miracle grow plants are doing incredible since their transplant.
Now, the one in miracle grow is looking much better. Both started to bud a couple weeks ago. But that was probably from switching from 18+ to 14 hours of sunlight. They have since returned to their vegetative state, and have been getting bigger again. I have some 10 gallon fabric pots on the way. I can't wait to see them a couple weeks after transplanting them.
Right now, I have 2 Purple Dreams, a Blue Dream, Jenny Kush, Mango Stomper, Chemdawg, Lee Roy (anyone familiar with this?), Sweet Tooth, Agent Orange, and Cheesel. I'm tempted to get a couple more, for an even dozen, but only if I can get a specific strain (I want some damn Durban Poison of a nearly pure sativa strain). But since I'm potentially dealing with a few pounds with my current crop, I'm not too worried about it. Plus, a local dispensary had a memorial day sale with any strain for $70 ounces, so I might probably have enough herb until harvest time.
I do have some questions about pesticides. Is it something I should add as a preventative measure? There aren't many bugs in Colorado, and haven't seen any evidence of any pests. But I'd hate to have them show up and screws things up late in the season, and ruin my crop. I know they use them for indoor grows, and since I'm going outdoors, I'm thinking it might be time to add something. Or is that more of a concern when I hit the flowering stage?
This post was edited on 6/4/16 at 12:48 pm
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Posted on 6/4/16 at 12:38 pm to sugatowng
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sugatowng
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Purple Dream
Do your remember where you bought this? I've been looking all over the leave, since I'm growing two of them, and would love to know what to expect.
Posted on 6/4/16 at 2:40 pm to CCTider
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I do have some questions about pesticides. Is it something I should add as a preventative measure?
I use neem oil and an expensive mix of mycorrhiza cause Florida is more mold prone. Big fan of a silicon additive as well. A lot of folks don't consider it an essential element for growth, I am not one of them lol. Plants are looking good though, glad to see a bounce back from a couple weeks ago.
Posted on 6/4/16 at 4:51 pm to MoarKilometers
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I use neem oil and an expensive mix of mycorrhiza cause Florida is more mold prone. Big fan of a silicon additive as well. A lot of folks don't consider it an essential element for growth, I am not one of them lol. Plants are looking good though, glad to see a bounce back from a couple weeks ago.
Transporting from hydro to soil had me worried. Only one of 7 ended up dying and the growing replaced it afterwards. And figuring out the right balance of additional nutrients was am experiment I'm starting to figure out. With different plants from different growers, and different brands of soil, it took some tweaking to get the right balance. And since I'm now in prime veg growth months, the timing worked out well.
Posted on 6/4/16 at 9:22 pm to sugatowng
That's pretty cool that they post a terp profile on their different stains. I've never seen that before, only cannabinoid breakdowns.
I've been there once before. What I got was okay, but I remember not liking them all the iPads and primo buds being displayed. I like dispensaries I can put my nose into a giant jar, and watch them out the choice buds into my jar. But a lot of places pre bag everything, especially on the rec side.
But thanks for replying. Looks like I'll be checking out ths again.
I've been there once before. What I got was okay, but I remember not liking them all the iPads and primo buds being displayed. I like dispensaries I can put my nose into a giant jar, and watch them out the choice buds into my jar. But a lot of places pre bag everything, especially on the rec side.
But thanks for replying. Looks like I'll be checking out ths again.
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Posted on 6/5/16 at 7:51 pm to CCTider
I agree with you...not my favorite shop. Starbuds has different locations and to me had the most quality without all the fancy shite
Posted on 6/5/16 at 8:17 pm to sugatowng
Picked up some really fricking frosty stuff today. Don't usually see it a lot here. Holding down the fort in TN until it's legal.
Okay go back to y'all's conversation. I hate y'all all.
Okay go back to y'all's conversation. I hate y'all all.
Posted on 6/6/16 at 10:07 am to sugatowng
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I agree with you...not my favorite shop. Starbuds has different locations and to me had the most quality without all the fancy shite
They significantly vary in quality and aesthetics, but the two aren't necessarily related.
I really like a place called nature's kiss. It's a kind grungy hippie medical dispensary. There's just containers full of pounds all over the place, within reach of the customers. You can see their grow operation in the back tons behind glass. It's beautifully chaotic. But they have insanely cheap concentrates, like $30 grams of live resin.
Posted on 6/6/16 at 10:16 am to CCTider
I'm actually strongly considering buying a grow tent, and starting to grow indoors. Indoor growing would be a good thing to learn while its legal, and I have good access to genetics.
I'm thinking about getting a 2'x4' gorilla grow tent. I figure with 8 ft², I could grow 6-8 at a time. After a grow or two, I could start learning how to make my own clones and/or sprout seeds. I'm just debating whether I'd need additional tents for veg growth.
Ideally, I'd like to keep thing continuously growing. I just have to figure out how to cycle everything with limited space. That and if I went to go soilless or hydroponic. Low maintenance would be ideal, in case I want to go out of town for a week (I'd prefer not to have to perfectly time my grow cycles around Thanksgiving and Mardi Gras).
Led grow lights have gotten very cheap, and Chinese manufacturers have been making some good lights from what I've been reading. If I use those askialong with a charcoal filter, I wouldn't notice Amy additional heat or smell in my room.
I'm thinking about getting a 2'x4' gorilla grow tent. I figure with 8 ft², I could grow 6-8 at a time. After a grow or two, I could start learning how to make my own clones and/or sprout seeds. I'm just debating whether I'd need additional tents for veg growth.
Ideally, I'd like to keep thing continuously growing. I just have to figure out how to cycle everything with limited space. That and if I went to go soilless or hydroponic. Low maintenance would be ideal, in case I want to go out of town for a week (I'd prefer not to have to perfectly time my grow cycles around Thanksgiving and Mardi Gras).
Led grow lights have gotten very cheap, and Chinese manufacturers have been making some good lights from what I've been reading. If I use those askialong with a charcoal filter, I wouldn't notice Amy additional heat or smell in my room.
Posted on 6/6/16 at 10:42 am to CCTider
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As it's legalized nationwide, shitty Mexican weed will go extinct like the dinosaurs.
I saw some Brown Frown the other week
Posted on 6/6/16 at 12:21 pm to CCTider
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Ideally, I'd like to keep thing continuously growing. I just have to figure out how to cycle everything with limited space. That and if I went to go soilless or hydroponic. Low maintenance would be ideal, in case I want to go out of town for a week (I'd prefer not to have to perfectly time my grow cycles around Thanksgiving and Mardi Gras).
At your size multi phased plants in hydro would require multiple reservoirs, as nutrient demands vary widely during growth/flowering. Just something to mull over... Try feeding and flushing from the same water supply.
Also if you're handy with tools at all you could build a little greenhouse or lean to shed for vegging and cloning.
I'm a dinosaur, I still use 6700k blue t5 bulbs for vegging, but I like where led tech is moving. Been steady improving the last decade. I don't trust it for commercial flowering yet.
Posted on 6/6/16 at 2:59 pm to MoarKilometers
I like the idea of a grow tent that's tall, and easily portable to get started. After a couple grows, I'll probably then look to get more sophisticated in my techniques, and being able to have a self sufficient indoor garden. If I leave Colorado, I doubt want to be sick playing average retail prices again.
I went to the green solution and bought some purple dream during lunch. It looks okay, but it only tested out at 16%, which is on the low end here. I'll find out how it is in a few hours.
But that place did make me laugh. They had varying prices, but were selling a strain as private stock, and they wanted $125 + taxes, which would be about $150 for a 1/4. During memorial weekend, I was buying ounces of really good herb for $75 an ounce with taxes. Goes to show how much prices vary here.
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sugatowng
I went to the green solution and bought some purple dream during lunch. It looks okay, but it only tested out at 16%, which is on the low end here. I'll find out how it is in a few hours.
But that place did make me laugh. They had varying prices, but were selling a strain as private stock, and they wanted $125 + taxes, which would be about $150 for a 1/4. During memorial weekend, I was buying ounces of really good herb for $75 an ounce with taxes. Goes to show how much prices vary here.
Posted on 6/7/16 at 3:31 pm to CCTider
How did I miss this thread?
On that Val Halla right now
On that Val Halla right now
Posted on 6/10/16 at 10:13 am to JohnZeroQ
I've gotten some good advice, and it's time for me to pass some along.
If you use 5 gallon buckets, make those are your final vessel (even though they are smaller than you should use). Transferring my plants from the bucket to a 10 gallon pot is an enormous pain in the arse. Plus, they're taller than my 10 gallon pots.
I damn near destroyed a couple plants trying to transfer. Dry or wet, they're going to crumble and may damage the roots. Plus, the roots start to bond with the side of the bucket, making them very hard to slide out. I eventually had to use a wood saw to cut the bottom off, a razor knife to cut it vertically, and another several inch cut at the top to loosen it up fully. And even still, it was still very tough. The extra top cut made a huge difference. Buy fabric pots. They're easier to deal with, better for the plant roots and soil's oxygen levels. Plus, they're as cheap as buckets on Amazon and other places online.
Next time, I'll go with 3 gallon fabric pots, then to 10s. That would make for easy transfers.
Yesterday, I couldn't resist, and now have 15 plants in the backyard (I swear officer, only six are mine). I finally found a Durban Poison and a Platinum Girl Scout Cookies teen/mother (only about 18", but very bushy), and was given two Strawberry Coughs and a Critical Mass, that were not very big clones. I don't expect much yield from those with their current size and shirt remaining veg season. And I'm pretty sure my Agent Orange is stunted, since it's barely grown compared to the other plants I bought from that guy (my Blue Dream and Jenny Kush from the guy are about 3' tall now, and while they were teens, the agent Orange should be much bigger). With the new small 3, I put those from solo cups to a 1 gallon pot. I'll give those a couple weeks, and move them into 10 gallon pots.
I also regret cutting off some fan leaves that looked diseased or yellowish, but still had green on them. I should've allowed the plant to finish absorbing their nutrients, and only cut off the crispy parts until the leaf was dead. I probably cost a couple plants some good energy. I probably will cut the tops off some plants this weekend, once they've settled into their new home. And it's also time to start tying down some branches, to let those lower limbs get better light.
I should finish up tonight or tomorrow. I'll post some pics afterwards.
Thanks again Moar for some great pointers, and teamJackson for starting this thread. And the mods for allowing it to keep rolling. For someone that has wanted to do this for years, without risking a mandatory minimum, this has been great learning thread for a novice.
If you use 5 gallon buckets, make those are your final vessel (even though they are smaller than you should use). Transferring my plants from the bucket to a 10 gallon pot is an enormous pain in the arse. Plus, they're taller than my 10 gallon pots.
I damn near destroyed a couple plants trying to transfer. Dry or wet, they're going to crumble and may damage the roots. Plus, the roots start to bond with the side of the bucket, making them very hard to slide out. I eventually had to use a wood saw to cut the bottom off, a razor knife to cut it vertically, and another several inch cut at the top to loosen it up fully. And even still, it was still very tough. The extra top cut made a huge difference. Buy fabric pots. They're easier to deal with, better for the plant roots and soil's oxygen levels. Plus, they're as cheap as buckets on Amazon and other places online.
Next time, I'll go with 3 gallon fabric pots, then to 10s. That would make for easy transfers.
Yesterday, I couldn't resist, and now have 15 plants in the backyard (I swear officer, only six are mine). I finally found a Durban Poison and a Platinum Girl Scout Cookies teen/mother (only about 18", but very bushy), and was given two Strawberry Coughs and a Critical Mass, that were not very big clones. I don't expect much yield from those with their current size and shirt remaining veg season. And I'm pretty sure my Agent Orange is stunted, since it's barely grown compared to the other plants I bought from that guy (my Blue Dream and Jenny Kush from the guy are about 3' tall now, and while they were teens, the agent Orange should be much bigger). With the new small 3, I put those from solo cups to a 1 gallon pot. I'll give those a couple weeks, and move them into 10 gallon pots.
I also regret cutting off some fan leaves that looked diseased or yellowish, but still had green on them. I should've allowed the plant to finish absorbing their nutrients, and only cut off the crispy parts until the leaf was dead. I probably cost a couple plants some good energy. I probably will cut the tops off some plants this weekend, once they've settled into their new home. And it's also time to start tying down some branches, to let those lower limbs get better light.
I should finish up tonight or tomorrow. I'll post some pics afterwards.
Thanks again Moar for some great pointers, and teamJackson for starting this thread. And the mods for allowing it to keep rolling. For someone that has wanted to do this for years, without risking a mandatory minimum, this has been great learning thread for a novice.
Posted on 6/10/16 at 5:03 pm to CCTider
Here's a product I love, to cut down on the transplant bs. They are a bit pricey, but infinitely reusable. They called superroot air pots. I use the liter ones once roots poke out of my jiffy pellet clones and transition to the 3 gallon for late veg and flower. Just unscrew 2 screws, unfold plastic and go. I 100% plan on using the 10 or 12 gallon variants before going to 100 gallon smart pots outside.
Posted on 6/10/16 at 11:56 pm to WonderWartHawg
The federal government of the United States does not see it that way.
Now what country do we live in again....
Now what country do we live in again....
Posted on 6/11/16 at 10:33 am to shotcaller1
It's scheduling will be changed federally by the next president, maybe even by Obama before he leaves. It has huge support amongst democrats, and Trump is very pro business. If he's serious about anti immigration and Mexico issues, you'd think he's also be interested in further hurting the cartels.
I think the only thing opposing it at this point is police and prison lobbyist, and evangelical groups. But powerful people have seem billions made in the states it's been legalized, and money talks.
I think the only thing opposing it at this point is police and prison lobbyist, and evangelical groups. But powerful people have seem billions made in the states it's been legalized, and money talks.
Posted on 6/15/16 at 6:53 pm to CCTider
Shocker... I could use some moar help.
My chemdawg was looking a little limp yesterday. I'd been avoiding watering it for a few days, so that I could transfer it from a 5 gallon bucket to a 10 gallon fabric pot. Looking at pictures online, it looked like it was underwatered.
But I figured no big deal. I'm gobs transfer it into a bigger pot, and we'd going to give it plenty of water when I did that. It'll absorb done h2o, sit in the sun all day, and it'll look fine when I get home.
Well, I was wrong.
It looks like shite. The leaves are drooping badly. It's still green (minus a coupe fan leaves from when I overfertillized it a couple weeks ago), but looks bad.
The ph was a little low at 5.5, but I wouldn't think that ph would be hurting it. I do have a ph control kit coming tomorrow, and I plan on adjusting them to about 6.0% .
Is it actually overwatered? It was 95 degrees today. So was the heat and sun too much for it. Is this because I transferred it in a weakened state? I have gotten good transferring, and didn't see any roots from the small amount of soil on the bucket's bottom that broke away. Or does chemdawg just hate me because I'm not a dead fan?
My chemdawg was looking a little limp yesterday. I'd been avoiding watering it for a few days, so that I could transfer it from a 5 gallon bucket to a 10 gallon fabric pot. Looking at pictures online, it looked like it was underwatered.
But I figured no big deal. I'm gobs transfer it into a bigger pot, and we'd going to give it plenty of water when I did that. It'll absorb done h2o, sit in the sun all day, and it'll look fine when I get home.
Well, I was wrong.
It looks like shite. The leaves are drooping badly. It's still green (minus a coupe fan leaves from when I overfertillized it a couple weeks ago), but looks bad.
The ph was a little low at 5.5, but I wouldn't think that ph would be hurting it. I do have a ph control kit coming tomorrow, and I plan on adjusting them to about 6.0% .
Is it actually overwatered? It was 95 degrees today. So was the heat and sun too much for it. Is this because I transferred it in a weakened state? I have gotten good transferring, and didn't see any roots from the small amount of soil on the bucket's bottom that broke away. Or does chemdawg just hate me because I'm not a dead fan?
Posted on 6/15/16 at 8:02 pm to MoarKilometers
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Here's a product I love, to cut down on the transplant bs. They are a bit pricey, but infinitely reusable. They called superroot air pots. I use the liter ones once roots poke out of my jiffy pellet clones and transition to the 3 gallon for late veg and flower. Just unscrew 2 screws, unfold plastic and go. I 100% plan on using the 10 or 12 gallon variants before going to 100 gallon smart pots outside.
I looked into those. They look pretty awesome. Plus, it's cool that there's a hydro and a soil version.
If you put those into the extra large pots to veg for a couple months, and then bring them out to a pot that big, it'd look more like a bamboo patch than a pot plant by the time you're done flowering. I'm guessing that's how they do in some of the youtube videos I've seen. Those guys in northern cali are getting some insane yields. Though I'm skeptical about their claims of getting almost 25 pounds per plant.
I actualy found out a couple days ago that I'm technically not legal. The law says 6 plants per person. But apparently it's only 12 per house total. I'm currently at 14. But there's two new ones I got for free that'd I wouldn't mind tossing if I had to. And you can only have 3 flowering plants at a time. So basically, you can only have 3 plants outdoors. They really should just flat out say that. Unless you had autoflower seeds and started early.
Apparently you cannot open air grow. It has to be in an "enclosure." If the neighbors decide to snitch around flowering time, they better be ready to see the ugliest greenhouse in Colorado. I'll have that PVC and visqueen monstrosity built 12' high, and will probably leave it up a few extra months, just to piss them off.
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