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re: How Mjnorities can gain their "privilege"

Posted on 5/29/14 at 6:55 pm to
Posted by CheeseburgerEddie
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Posted on 5/29/14 at 6:55 pm to
so why didn't you just "how to gain privilege"
Posted by TbirdSpur2010
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Posted on 5/29/14 at 6:57 pm to
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I explained this to you in the other thread -- there isn't.


You were wrong in that thread too.

Per par.
Posted by TbirdSpur2010
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Posted on 5/29/14 at 6:58 pm to
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If you break it down by economic standards there's very little difference between races.


I never limited myself to a particular metric.
Posted by Porter Osborne Jr
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Posted on 5/29/14 at 7:00 pm to
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I never limited myself to a particular metric.


Which is cool. I'm a stats guy myself and I like to see all the different angles. However, it's hard to deny that when it's broken down by economic factors all races are nearly the same.
Posted by Porter Osborne Jr
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Posted on 5/29/14 at 7:01 pm to
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Asian privilege?
Finally, something I can bitch about. Now, are these straight Asians or gay Asians?
Posted by TbirdSpur2010
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Posted on 5/29/14 at 7:07 pm to
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it's hard to deny that when it's broken down by economic factors all races are nearly the same.


Again, I'm not talking specifically about economics. Money is the ultimate equalizer and is far more powerful a factor than race.

But to suggest holistically that there are not inherent advantages to being a member of the majority is folly. That's where I'm coming from.

And it's not even something I'm upset about. It's normal.
Posted by the808bass
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Posted on 5/29/14 at 7:11 pm to
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inherent advantages to being a member of the majority is folly.

The "inherent" is where I think your argument loses its strength. It's not inherent. Otherwise you wouldn't see far more equality than dissimilarity of opportunity in similar income classes.
Posted by Porter Osborne Jr
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Posted on 5/29/14 at 7:11 pm to
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But to suggest holistically that there are not inherent advantages to being a member of the majority is folly.


Are you just talking any majority?

Maybe it's because I'm suffering from "straight, white privilege" but I don't see how my race has helped me.
Posted by TbirdSpur2010
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Posted on 5/29/14 at 7:14 pm to
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The "inherent" is where I think your argument loses its strength. It's not inherent. Otherwise you wouldn't see far more equality than dissimilarity of opportunity in similar income classes.


Disagree. I already said money is the most powerful equalizer there is.
Posted by TbirdSpur2010
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Posted on 5/29/14 at 7:16 pm to
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Maybe it's because I'm suffering from "straight, white privilege" but I don't see how my race has helped me.


Whether you see it or not is beside the point. It's there and that's ok.

Saying that there is white privilege doesn't mean that a white person will never struggle or vice versa.
Posted by Porter Osborne Jr
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Posted on 5/29/14 at 7:19 pm to
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Saying that there is white privilege doesn't mean that a white person will never struggle or vice versa.


Can you or anyone else give me an example of white privilege?
Posted by TbirdSpur2010
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Posted on 5/29/14 at 7:27 pm to
Being able to flip on a television anywhere in this country and being able to view folks who look like you dominant in Hollywood.

Being able to walk down the street any street and people remember "a man walked down the street" instead of "a black man walked down the street."

Having anglo-saxon beauty standards be the coveted look.

And like I said, I'm not mad about anything or saying that white people can't struggle (my in-laws are white and haven't had anything handed to them economically).
This post was edited on 5/29/14 at 7:28 pm
Posted by Roger Klarvin
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Posted on 5/29/14 at 7:28 pm to
I dont know why some white people are so offended by the concept of white privilege. Im white, largely conservative on all but a few social issues and have no problem acknowledging that there are things in this world that I dont have to even give a second thought which actively effect minorities at times.

The fact is that I have never once been out at 2 AM and worried about what it might appear to a police officer I was doing.
Posted by CheeseburgerEddie
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Posted on 5/29/14 at 7:28 pm to
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Maybe it's because I'm suffering from "straight, white privilege" but I don't see how my race has helped me.


how often have you only figured out how much you relied on something when you lost it.
This post was edited on 5/29/14 at 7:29 pm
Posted by Porter Osborne Jr
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Posted on 5/29/14 at 7:29 pm to
Gotcha. I guess I don't think about that stuff as being privileges.
Posted by Roger Klarvin
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Posted on 5/29/14 at 7:32 pm to
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Can you or anyone else give me an example of white privilege?


I was in a car with a black friend who was pulled over because the cop thought it strange that a black youth was driving such a nice vehicle. I know that I never have to worry about that.

I have the privilege of being given the benefit of the doubt in many scenarios in which say, T-Bird might not.
This post was edited on 5/29/14 at 7:33 pm
Posted by Alahunter
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Posted on 5/29/14 at 7:36 pm to
Try driving that white privilege in downtown Detroit, or near a police precinct in a drug riddled, predominately black area. You'll see it turn to, that white boy is looking for drugs.

Everyone gets stereotyped, even white folks.

"White privilege" labeling is just another attempt to divide and continue class/race warfare. As long as everyone keeps buying into it, it will continue to help perpetuate prejudices.
Posted by TbirdSpur2010
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Posted on 5/29/14 at 7:37 pm to
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I guess I don't think about that stuff as being privileges.



I can understand that

Biggest thing for me is I don't harp on advantages or disadvantages. I can only control my own self and my own work ethic and let the chips fall where they may. Focusing on problems doesn't solve problems. There are always going to be facets of life that are unfair to everyone.

And as far as anglo-saxon beauty standards, I like those in my woman, obviously
Posted by TbirdSpur2010
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Member since Dec 2010
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Posted on 5/29/14 at 7:37 pm to
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I guess I don't think about that stuff as being privileges.



I can understand that

Biggest thing for me is I don't harp on advantages or disadvantages. I can only control my own self and my own work ethic and let the chips fall where they may. Focusing on problems doesn't solve problems. There are always going to be facets of life that are unfair to everyone.

And as far as anglo-saxon beauty standards, I like those in my woman, obviously
Posted by KSGamecock
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Member since May 2012
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Posted on 5/29/14 at 7:38 pm to
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Try driving that white privilege in downtown Detroit, or near a police precinct in a drug riddled, predominately black area. You'll see it turn to, that white boy is looking for drugs.


Yep, I think that proves that "White privilege" is really "majority privilege" and it exists in some form in every country.
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