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re: How Mjnorities can gain their "privilege"
Posted on 5/29/14 at 4:38 pm to cokebottleag
Posted on 5/29/14 at 4:38 pm to cokebottleag
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That maybe so, but having a child out of wedlock never improves one's financial situation. It only serves to strain your finances much more than they would be otherwise.
How so? How is there a difference between both parents working in their respective careers while married or simply while living together? Assuming that both parents are educated with good jobs it doesn't matter if they're married or not.
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Posted on 5/29/14 at 4:38 pm to deltaland
It doesn't matter which method a person uses to change other people's perception of them. Those perceptions will continue to persist as long as that person holds on to the irrational prejudice that they gained through their religious beliefs.
Posted on 5/29/14 at 4:38 pm to the808bass
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Three easy steps to avoid poverty. 1). Graduate high school 2). Get a full-time j-o-b 3). Get married before you have a kid. You have now reduced your chance of being in poverty to 2%.
Good facts. Make sense if you have sense.
Posted on 5/29/14 at 4:39 pm to deltaland
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Marriage has nothing to do with success really...but having a kid before you can afford one will hamper your ability to succeed. You could actually throw in "don't get married before you can afford it" to that list.
I agree with you.
Posted on 5/29/14 at 4:41 pm to CatFan81
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How is there a difference between both parents working in their respective careers while married or simply while living together? Assuming that both parents are educated with good jobs it doesn't matter if they're married or not
People living together who have a kid are far more likely to end up as single parents than those who are married.
Eventually the sexual revolution will really kick in and completely remove all consequences from sex. We all await.
Posted on 5/29/14 at 4:43 pm to the808bass
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People living together who have a kid are far more likely to end up as single parents than those who are married.
Yeah. That 50% divorce rate today really backs that up.
Many people simply don't believe in marriage. You can be just as committed as a married couple without needing a piece of paper to prove it. Many couples buy houses together, share bank accounts, etc and never get married.
Posted on 5/29/14 at 4:45 pm to CatFan81
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Yeah. That 50% divorce rate today really backs that up.
That's not true of first time marriages. You're still arguing with statistics. Basically your whole argument is "no way is that true." Except it is.
Posted on 5/29/14 at 4:49 pm to TeLeFaWx
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False. I think that's growing truer every day, but that's not the world we live in.
You gonna explain what you mean?
Posted on 5/29/14 at 4:50 pm to the808bass
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That's not true of first time marriages.
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50% percent of first marriages, 67% of second and 74% of third marriages end in divorce, according to Jennifer Baker of the Forest Institute of Professional Psychology in Springfield, Missouri.
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Posted on 5/29/14 at 4:50 pm to DanMullins4Life
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It doesn't matter which method a person uses to change other people's perception of them. Those perceptions will continue to persist as long as that person holds on to the irrational prejudice that they gained through their religious beliefs.
WHAT THE HOLY frick ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT???
Posted on 5/29/14 at 4:52 pm to CatFan81
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According to enrichment journal on the divorce rate in America: The divorce rate in America for first marriage is 41% The divorce rate in America for second marriage is 60% The divorce rate in America for third marriage is 73%
just assisting don't emoticon me.
This post was edited on 5/29/14 at 4:53 pm
Posted on 5/29/14 at 4:53 pm to CheeseburgerEddie
Close enough. It's still really high.
Posted on 5/29/14 at 4:56 pm to CatFan81
i guess the catch is that there is now easy way to measure the number of non marries people living together with a kid who decide to separate.
Posted on 5/29/14 at 4:57 pm to deltaland
Basically all you said is for black people to attain privilege, they should act white, thus refuting the claim in your first paragraph that there is no privilege to being white.
Dumb thread is dumb.
Dumb thread is dumb.
Posted on 5/29/14 at 4:58 pm to CatFan81
Jenny's wrong.
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The method preferred by social scientists in determining the divorce rate is to calculate how many people who have ever married subsequently divorced. Counted that way, the rate has never exceeded about 41 percent, researchers say. Although sharply rising rates in the 1970's led some to project that the number would keep increasing, the rate has instead begun to inch downward.
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Posted on 5/29/14 at 5:00 pm to cokebottleag
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People like to bitch that banks make predatory loans against minorities, but your credit score has no *attached that says what color you are. If anything, credit scores are the most unbiased part of our society.
And people don't realize how important a good credit score is.
When me and my business partner started working on our farm, we needed to buy a catfish hatchery and 2 houses next to it on one lot. Price was 80,000 dollars.
He was making close to 100k a year, I was making about 25k a year fresh out of college. He got denied the loan to buy it due to a 580 credit score. I, who made much less money, got accepted for the loan due to a 748 credit score. Credit opens a lot of doors.
Posted on 5/29/14 at 5:12 pm to The Spleen
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Basically all you said is for black people to attain privilege, they should act white, thus refuting the claim in your first paragraph that there is no privilege to being white.
So let me get this straight:
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1. Get an education. It opens doors to better paying jobs and college scholarships.
Is acting white?
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2. Open a bank account. Build credit. Make smart financial decisions...don't cash your checks at the Indian store. Good credit leads to a plethora of privilege
That's acting white?
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3. Dress appropriate. Perception is reality. You can make yourself look more important than you really are and gain unearned respect simply by dressing and carrying yourself right.
Dressing appropriately is acting white?
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4. When starting a job, work hard, show motivation, listen to your superiors and keep your mouth shut even if they are wrong.
So diligence is a white thing? So black people should not work hard or listen to their superiors at work, because doing so would be too white of them?
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5. Stay away from drugs and crime.
Staying away from drugs and crime is only a good idea for white people?
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6. Don't have kids before you're ready.
Black people should have as many kids as they want, whenever they want, regardless of whether or not they have the financial or emotional maturity to raise them?
Jesus Christ Spleen, are you seriously this racist?
Posted on 5/29/14 at 5:14 pm to The Spleen
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Basically all you said is for black people to attain privilege
I said minorities, not specifically black people.
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they should act white
Why is dressing nice and making responsible decisions considered acting "white"?
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thus refuting the claim in your first paragraph that there is no privilege to being white.
There isn't. If you are white and don't do many of the things I stated in the OP that are necessary to experience privilege, then you won't have privilege. I know many white people who have no privilege.
The problem is that people have labeled it "acting white" and "acting black" rather than labeling it simply "being responsible" and "being irresponsible". This causes a cultural divide and creates a negative connotation regarding responsible actions. There are responsible black people who experience privilege, there are irresponsible white people with no privilege.
The perception of white privilege comes from people misinterpreting statistics. What it boils down to is minorities as a whole need to take more responsibility and make better decisions rather than blame the white man for their problems. Do that, and the general perception of minorities will be a more positive one and therefore more privilege will exist. This isn't 1960 anymore, it's time to step up to the plate.
Posted on 5/29/14 at 5:17 pm to deltaland
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Why is dressing nice and making responsible decisions considered acting "white"?
Because MLK Jr, who was black, had a dream that children would not be judged by the color of their skin or the clothes on their back but by the content of their character.
Posted on 5/29/14 at 5:17 pm to deltaland
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I said minorities, not specifically black people.
does it not work for white people too?
you should have titled "how to gain privilege".
ETA: you also misspelled minorities. Also what is encompassed in this privilege I may be able to gain?
This post was edited on 5/29/14 at 5:20 pm
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