re: How many poor dirt farmers owned slaves

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I'm confident you couldn't count to tariff.

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As for me, I'm hoping you can read at, say, the sixth-grade level. If so, the following, extracted from a speech by Alexander Stephens, Vice-President of the Confederacy, will begin educating you on the causes of the Civil War:

The new [Confederate] Constitution has put at rest forever all the agitating questions relating to our peculiar institutions—African slavery as it exists among us—the proper status of the negro in our form of civilization. This was the immediate cause of the late rupture and present revolution. Jefferson, in his forecast, had anticipated this, as the "rock upon which the old Union would split." He was right. What was conjecture with him, is now a realized fact. But whether he fully comprehended the great truth upon which that rock stood and stands, may be doubted. The prevailing ideas entertained by him and most of the leading statesmen at the time of the formation of the old Constitution were, that the enslavement of the African was in violation of the laws of nature; that it was wrong in principle, socially, morally and politically. It was an evil they knew not well how to deal with; but the general opinion of the men of that day was, that, somehow or other, in the order of Providence, the institution would be evanescent and pass away... Those ideas, however, were fundamentally wrong. They rested upon the assumption of the equality of races. This was an error. It was a sandy foundation, and the idea of a Government built upon it—when the "storm came and the wind blew, it fell."

Our new [Confederate] Government is founded upon exactly the opposite ideas; its foundations are laid, its cornerstone rests, upon the great truth that the negro is not equal to the white man; that slavery, subordination to the superior race, is his natural and normal condition.

For your benefit, I have highlighted the passages most essential to your instruction. If however, you still do not comprehend the meaning of Mr. Stephens words, I suggest you take this extract to a competent high school or middle school history teacher, who should be able to provide you with an accurate interpretation.

I make this last suggestion because:
• Your ignorance in this matter is complete.
• Presenting your ignorant views in a public forum enlightens the rest of us on only one point: your unsuitability to participate in the conversation.

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Tigerwaffe

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Would you like for me to share the racist remarks made by Lincoln?

How about his promise to keep slavery in tact?

All of them were racists, which voids the issue of moral justice taking place.

The war was brought on, one step at a time, by the nefarious ruling class, for various agendas.

The South was paying 90% of federal revenue, they were slowly being pushed into war, the final straw that broke the back was the abolition of slavery which made the agricultural life, pre machinery, in the South impossible to continue.

I'm not a pro slaver, I'm not defending slavery, I'm defending the full story.

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Doesn't change the fact that the South seceded to keep slavery.

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Quote sniping, the art of all arts.

You should try to absorb an entire post, and react to that entire post.

They seceded to keep slavery, yeah, sure, kinda. It's a truism. It's true, but essentially a meaningless statement when you understand more of the story.

Ummm. Didn't say it did.

I never understood why people hated you so much. Seeing it now.

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The South was paying 90% of federal revenue, they were slowly being pushed into war, the final straw that broke the back was the abolition of slavery which made the agricultural life, pre machinery, in the South impossible to continue.

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So the rich plantation owners paying a bunch of tariffs caused the war? Is that really what you're going with?

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Blacks should shut Sharpton up, get Educated, stop having Children out of wedlock, stop killing people (what percentage of America is black and what percentage of blacks are in prison)

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So the whole black race likes sharpton, not educated, all have children out of wedlock, all kill people...Nice how you stereotype a whole race...but you don't like it when people stereotype all southern whites. Strange how that works


See you're going to certain websites to get your info..same talking points

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I love how certain non-black people (usually racist people) just assume carte blanche that jackson, sharpton, et al are truly embraced and followed by all black people by virtue of their race alone. It defies logic.

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True. They get their info from certain websites. It's the LIBERAL media that keeps giving them air time. Have they actually talked to any blacks about Sharpton or Jackson, doubt it. Can't control who the media puts in the spotlight.

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It's the LIBERAL media that keeps giving them air time.

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Gay black liberal Jew-run media, get it right.

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All of them were racists, which voids the issue of moral justice taking place.

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You're making a leap here that is hardly borne out by the facts of the matter. Moreover, you do little to further your point of view by asserting that the U.S. was both willing to guarantee slavery ("How about his promise to keep slavery in tact?") and determined to abolish it ("...the final straw that broke the back was the abolition of slavery...").


As Stephens' analysis of the situation—masterful in its brevity and clarity—makes clear:
• The cause of disunion and revolution was "African slavery as it exists among us..."
• The cornerstone of the Confederate Constitution, the reason for its and Confederate States of America's existence, was the guaranteed legal right to own slaves.

I can't make it any clearer to you than the VP of the Confederacy did in own words to the Georgia state legislature in November 1860.

Knowing this, I'm off to bed. Hashing the matter over with you any further would no purpose aside of raising my already high blood pressure.