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re: How mad is Dylan Roof?
Posted on 6/30/15 at 2:21 pm to CCTider
Posted on 6/30/15 at 2:21 pm to CCTider
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But Roof definitely doesn't fit the bill of the Rant's definition of a left wing, SJW.
Someone said Roof is a left wing nut???? WTF. Roof thinks like a lot of people on this site does. shite look at the talking points. I guess they are far left wing nuts too.
shite if you went to the political/OT board both times when Obama got elected, you'd think you was on some stormfront/far right msg board.
This post was edited on 6/30/15 at 2:23 pm
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Posted on 6/30/15 at 2:27 pm to StrawsDrawnAtRandom
Hyper militant.
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We demand abolition of the mercenary troops and formation of a national army.
Religious.
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..We demand freedom of religion for all religious denominations within the state so long as they do not endanger its existence or oppose the moral senses of the Germanic race. The Party as such advocates the standpoint of a positive Christianity without binding itself confessionally to any one denomination. It combats the Jewish-materialistic spirit within and around us, and is convinced that a lasting recovery of our nation can only succeed from within on the framework: The good of the state before the good of the individual.[9]
Anti-gay.
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All citizens must have equal rights and obligations.
Fighting for ''family values''.
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We demand substitution of a German common law in place of the Roman Law serving a materialistic world-order.
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The state is to be responsible for a fundamental reconstruction of our whole national education program, to enable every capable and industrious German to obtain higher education and subsequently introduction into leading positions. The plans of instruction of all educational institutions are to conform with the experiences of practical life. The comprehension of the concept of the State must be striven for by the school [Staatsbürgerkunde] as early as the beginning of understanding. We demand the education at the expense of the State of outstanding intellectually gifted children of poor parents without consideration of position or profession.
none of those line up with conservative viewpoints
Pro-firearm for the citizens. ( i might say yes, they were pro gun, but so is the majority of our nation)
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We demand the creation of a healthy middle class and its conservation, immediate communalization of the great warehouses and their being leased at low cost to small firms, the utmost consideration of all small firms in contracts with the State, county or municipality.
Fighting to keep the country ''pure''.
Anti-immigrant.
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We demand equality of rights for the German people in respect to the other nations; abrogation of the peace treaties of Versailles and St. Germain.
We demand land and territory (colonies) for the sustenance of our people, and colonization for our surplus population.
Only a member of the race can be a citizen. A member of the race can only be one who is of German blood, without consideration of creed. Consequently no Jew can be a member of the race.
Whoever has no citizenship is to be able to live in Germany only as a guest, and must be under the authority of legislation for foreigners.
The right to determine matters concerning administration and law belongs only to the citizen. Therefore we demand that every public office, of any sort whatsoever, whether in the Reich, the county or municipality, be filled only by citizens. We combat the corrupting parliamentary economy, office-holding only according to party inclinations without consideration of character or abilities.
this is the only one that stands up, but not with much scrutiny. There isn't a conservative with a voice that says "no more immigrants, ever"
so on everything you listed (sans immigrationISH and guns,) they seem to lean towards one ideology more than the others. and it ain't to the right.
oh and Jesus.
Posted on 6/30/15 at 2:31 pm to CCTider
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Instead, all of his previous symbology is being removed from pubic places
Suspect that hurt like a motherfricker.
Posted on 6/30/15 at 2:39 pm to 3nOut
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Hyper militant.
So you're saying Nazis weren't very militant, or that Republicans aren't?
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Religious.
Hitler attempted to create a unified Protestant Reich Church from Germany's 28 existing Protestant churches. -- Stupidly religious.
Hitler never portrayed himself and the Nazi movement to the German people as outspoken proponents of atheism, but rather as faithful Christians.[24][25] He publicly declared: "We tolerate no one in our ranks who attacks the ideas of Christianity ... in fact our movement is Christian."[26]
Why do you think they targeted Jews?
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Anti-gay.
Beginning in 1933, gay organizations were banned, scholarly books about homosexuality, and sexuality in general, were burned, (such as those from the Institut für Sexualwissenschaft, run by Jewish gay rights campaigner Magnus Hirschfeld) and homosexuals within the Nazi Party itself were murdered. The Gestapo compiled lists of homosexuals, who were compelled to sexually conform to the "German norm."
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Fighting for ''family values''.
Dude you can't seriously ignore all of the rhetoric by the party regarding family.
“The National Government will preserve and defend those basic principles on which our nation has been built up. It regards Christianity as the foundation of our national morality and the family as the basis of national life.”
Come on, man. Stop.
You're reading party platforms rather than what they actually did.
Posted on 6/30/15 at 2:55 pm to StrawsDrawnAtRandom
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Come on, man. Stop.
please, bitch.
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You're reading party platforms rather than what they actually did.
i could argue it anyway whether it's party platforms or actions in deed.
leftist today match much more of what Communism and the Nationalist socialistic party did in action. leftists want complete control over people's thoughts, actions*, and complete and utter dependence and reliance on the state. if you sincerely think that matches the right wing, i don't know what to tell you.
congrats for buying into the propaganda.
* i am not proposing that the right isn't guilty of this. they are not at all.
This post was edited on 6/30/15 at 2:57 pm
Posted on 6/30/15 at 3:14 pm to 3nOut
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leftist today match much more of what Communism and the Nationalist socialistic party did in action. leftists want complete control over people's thoughts, actions*, and complete and utter dependence and reliance on the state. if you sincerely think that matches the right wing, i don't know what to tell you.
It's pretty hard to argue with this. We just had unelected officials decide to define marriage and our current administration has implemented the first steps of government healthcare. Both are very much a result of the left.
Posted on 6/30/15 at 3:36 pm to 3nOut
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i could argue it anyway whether it's party platforms or actions in deed.
So you believe North Korea is a Democratic Republic because that's what they call themselves?
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leftist today match much more of what Communism and the Nationalist socialistic party did in action.
They do represent communists, but the Nazi regime is almost unanimously considered right-wing.
I actually gave you so many points that it's just obvious that you're a partisan line-dragger.
I hate the left, especially in America, but the right isn't any better.
It's just an objective fact that the Republican Party is so much closer to the Nazi regime in action.
Which side was against gay marriage?
Which side started two long-term wars?
Which side is more nationalistic? Flag burners or Right Wingers?
Which side is more concerned with family values? (Our nation was built on Christianity and the family...sound familiar?)
Which side thinks religion should dictate what happens in government? Abortion, marriage? (Deregulating marriage is different from putting strict definitions on it.)
And you talk to me about buying into propaganda? A party that's almost a clone of the Nazi regime without the domestic violence has convinced you that the side that champions minorities is closer to a Fascist regime than the guys who literally say America is the greatest country on the planet? (Which it is, in my opinion.)
Come on, son.
Posted on 6/30/15 at 3:38 pm to skirpnasty
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It's pretty hard to argue with this. We just had unelected officials decide to define marriage and our current administration has implemented the first steps of government healthcare. Both are very much a result of the left.
I especially like that whole Hitler Youth Movement to incorporate more homosexuals into the ranks.
Oh and that part where all people should have access to affordable healthcare, that one's a classic.
Totally Nazi-like.
Posted on 6/30/15 at 3:59 pm to StrawsDrawnAtRandom
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Hitler never portrayed himself and the Nazi movement to the German people as outspoken proponents of atheism, but rather as faithful Christians.[24][25] He publicly declared: "We tolerate no one in our ranks who attacks the ideas of Christianity ... in fact our movement is Christian."[26]
Joseph Goebbels had an ugly contempt for Christianity and all religions, but encouraged Hitler to use it to gain support from the masses.
Posted on 6/30/15 at 4:04 pm to StrawsDrawnAtRandom
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unanimously considered right-wing.
by the left. yes. sure. i think you could find matching qualities to the left and right for any good or bad government. no conservative will happily accept that comparison. leftists think that communism wasn't a bad thing and a lot more people died at the hand of communist governments than the Nazis.
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I actually gave you so many points that it's just obvious that you're a partisan line-dragger.
how so? i hate all of the republicans in power positions.
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Which side was against gay marriage?
both till about 2008. not a single candidate i like is against gay marriage.
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Which side started two long-term wars?
both. and Vietnam is solely on the left.
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Which side is more nationalistic? Flag burners or Right Wingers?
are you arguing that nationalism is a bad thing?
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Which side is more concerned with family values? (Our nation was built on Christianity and the family...sound familiar?)
i like family values.
i don't like sticking my family values on your dick, i want your dick to have the freedom to do what it wants. but i don't like it when the freedom of your dick tells me what i have to do or shoves itself in my face.
if that's family values, then sure.
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Which side thinks religion should dictate what happens in government? Abortion, marriage? (Deregulating marriage is different from putting strict definitions on it.)
are you submitting that every politician should leave their core values are at the door? i agree on abortion, but that's pretty much the only point that i'm unyielding on and won't till the day i die. but again, i don't support anti-SSM candidates.
you're ignoring anything that has to do with the fact that facists want communal living and state dependence. doesn't line up with my partisan line-dragging.
This post was edited on 6/30/15 at 4:10 pm
Posted on 6/30/15 at 4:06 pm to CCTider
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He didn't start the anarchy he thought would occur. Instead, all of his previous symbology is being removed from pubic places. I'm not sure a more opposite reaction could've happened.
The intended reaction happened.
It was an intelligence community psyop.
Knock out at least 3 birds with one stone -- throw a giant log on racial tension, cause a devastating blow to a niche of American culture, and the big one, initiate a 24/7 news story on a shooting incident instead of on the new trade agreement passing fast track authority.
This post was edited on 6/30/15 at 4:08 pm
Posted on 6/30/15 at 4:12 pm to Sleeping Tiger
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The intended reaction happened.
It was an intelligence community psyop.
Knock out at least 3 birds with one stone -- throw a giant log on racial tension, cause a devastating blow to a niche of American culture, and the big one, initiate a 24/7 news story on a shooting incident instead of on the new trade agreement passing fast track authority.
Can we talk more about the Titanic Magma?
This Charleston shooting false flag magma doesn't float in these waters.
Posted on 6/30/15 at 5:07 pm to CCTider
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which sounds pretty Nazi like to me
NAZIs were lefitsts Einstein. National Socialist Party =/= the political right.
Posted on 6/30/15 at 5:35 pm to CCTider
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Though I don't really like the terms leftist or rightist.
You have Russia (which is basically is a communist dictatorship, being supposedly far left wing, but they are incredibly prejudice over there. So to define prejudice as left or right on a global scale is kinda bs. But Roof definitely doesn't fit the bill of the Rant's definition of a left wing, SJW.
He does show many of the same characteristics as the SJW radicals..full of hate and violence toward a specific group. He just hates a different group.
Most ideologies can't be placed specifically in a right or left category. For example, ISIS would be socially far right extreme...they want to go back to centuries old social norms. The Russians and former Nazis are kind of a category of their own...their economic and government setup was left wing (authoritarian) but social ideals were extreme right wing.
None of those groups fit into what defines the American right and left wing. America as a whole is more moderate on both sides..with the right favoring free markets and social traditions such as family values and Christian ideals, and the left favoring bigger government solutions, big spending, and social liberties free of any government regulation. Neither side advocates for the extremes, except for a few crazies who are shunned by the mainstream.
Posted on 6/30/15 at 8:34 pm to CCTider
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Poor little racist. He didn't start the anarchy he thought would occur. Instead, all of his previous symbology is being removed from pubic places. I'm not sure a more opposite reaction could've happened.
So, did he know what's going on on the outside? Are black guards laughing and filling him in on the details? Bringing him the newspapers?
If anything, I bet he's thrilled. The kid was a terrorist, and we've over reacted to this event. We should take down the Confederate flag, but not because of this psychopath, but just because we know it no longer belongs in this era. The kid (who I honestly can say I don't know his name) has won.
Forgetting about him is the only way to defeat the prick, but most news organizations don't give a frick and keep on talking about him and showing his image. It's simply irresponsible to glorify this kids actions and make him seem all powerful, since it will only serve to inspire future serial killers that they can terrify the whole nation and make us now before him. All we should do is throw him in a dark rat infested cell and feed him nothing but gruel and forget he exists.
Posted on 6/30/15 at 10:59 pm to StrawsDrawnAtRandom
The posting you made about the German Weapons act of 1928 and comparison's to the R's or Conservatives today is comical. You should read the actual entire act and realize that Jews born in Germany were not even considered Germans by the Nazi's.
If you would like a practical comparison, read the German Weapons Act, alongside the U.S. Gun Control Act of 1968. And realize which party and platform passed it and is more comparable.
If you would like a practical comparison, read the German Weapons Act, alongside the U.S. Gun Control Act of 1968. And realize which party and platform passed it and is more comparable.
Posted on 6/30/15 at 11:23 pm to Alahunter
I don't' think it's fair that all these white people get to have flags and shite representing their "heritage". Black people don't get shite. We don't have flags to remind us of our ancestors. To us, a confederate flag means one thing; lynchings, segregation, etc
That's in essence the problem; the flag to different people means totally different things. When you see a confederate flag you remember your great great great grandfather who was a civil war vet or your great grandfather who started a business somewhere in the south that passed to your family. When I see a confedrate flag I think about someone in my family line getting the ever living shite beat out of them, or not being able to read or write or my great grandmother who was gang raped and beat almost to death to the point where she couldn't talk or speak anymore. It would be like having a swastika to remember your great grandfather who was in the Nazi party. While I respect that right, and I really do if you had a great grandfather in the third Reich, but was a good loving man to you and all that, it doesn't' mean that the swastika stands for hatred, evil and genocide, and has no right to be flown on public property.
TL:DR- frick your heritage
PS- Nazi's were fascists not communists. Two totally different things
That's in essence the problem; the flag to different people means totally different things. When you see a confederate flag you remember your great great great grandfather who was a civil war vet or your great grandfather who started a business somewhere in the south that passed to your family. When I see a confedrate flag I think about someone in my family line getting the ever living shite beat out of them, or not being able to read or write or my great grandmother who was gang raped and beat almost to death to the point where she couldn't talk or speak anymore. It would be like having a swastika to remember your great grandfather who was in the Nazi party. While I respect that right, and I really do if you had a great grandfather in the third Reich, but was a good loving man to you and all that, it doesn't' mean that the swastika stands for hatred, evil and genocide, and has no right to be flown on public property.
TL:DR- frick your heritage
PS- Nazi's were fascists not communists. Two totally different things
This post was edited on 6/30/15 at 11:29 pm
Posted on 6/30/15 at 11:34 pm to vengeanceofrain
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Black people don't get shite. We don't have flags to remind us of our ancestors.
I'm sorry that period was the only era one could attach a flag to their ancestry. I don't even want to count how many nations and new flags have been formed since the 1860s... but it is enough to say eat a dick with your shitty argument.
Posted on 7/1/15 at 9:05 am to vengeanceofrain
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When I see a confedrate flag I think about someone in my family line getting the ever living shite beat out of them, or not being able to read or write or my great grandmother who was gang raped and beat almost to death to the point where she couldn't talk or speak anymore.
Have you ever researched your family history to know if that in fact ever took place in your lineage? Or are you letting emotions and hyperbole overtake common sense and assuming something that never happened in your family's lineage?
What would you think if you found out your great great great grandfather actually fought in one of the Confederate divisions?
Posted on 7/1/15 at 9:15 am to 3nOut
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Which side thinks religion should dictate what happens in government? Abortion, marriage? (Deregulating marriage is different from putting strict definitions on it.)
Abortion is way less to do with religion and way more to do with being fricked up. Gay marriage is a completely different animal, don't put the two in the same category. Gay marriage has no effect on anyone not involved, abortion is directly taking a life. To compare the two is laughable.
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