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re: Hey, White People.
Posted on 9/12/14 at 10:49 am to RDRGeaux09
Posted on 9/12/14 at 10:49 am to RDRGeaux09
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Posted on 9/12/14 at 10:58 am to TbirdSpur2010
quote:Agree 100%. The problem is a lot of people (white and black and whatever) don't see it that way. It's so frustrating. You hear someone whine about society's inherent oppression (privilige and the system all that bullshite) and I just want to say "No they're not! They're not oppressed! Most people are not racists. Go be a normal member of society, and people will accept you. I promise. I live in the real world, this isn't a trap. Just go do it. frick."
My assertion that there are inherent disadvantages to being a minority do not necessitate that all minorities are a community. They may share a physical characteristic, but black people are no more a community than blondes or redheads (soulless beings that they are, of course ).
Many different people across the socioeconomic spectrum can share the characteristic of being a minority and have no other cogent similar characteristics. Therefore the "community" label is as lazy as it is bogus.
This post was edited on 9/12/14 at 11:05 am
Posted on 9/12/14 at 10:59 am to TbirdSpur2010
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Therefore the "community" label is as lazy as it is bogus.
I agree, blacks shouldn't view themselves as a community but it doesn't detract that the majority of them do band together due to race and nothing more.
They do this with White Privilege (as opposed to calling it Majority Privilege).
They do this with "Black Community", that didn't manifest from beautiful white lips.
I only echo what the "Community" (much like the Black Caucus) produces. If Blacks want to be individuals, they need to stop focusing on race so much.
I agree that the term is specious and outright wrong, but we can't have things both ways.
We can't acknowledge that blacks are collectively at a disadvantage and then make them individuals when crime and manipulation of the system are acknowledged.
And the thing is: They do it at such a rate where we have to look at them specifically because the numbers are so unbelievably disproportionate from that race.
"According to the BJS non-Hispanic blacks accounted for 39.4% of the prison and jail population in 2009, with whites 34.2%, and Hispanics 20.6%. The incarceration rate of black males was over 6 times higher than that of white males, with a rate of 4,749 per 100,000 US residents."
Welfare statistics on top of that.
This isn't to say there aren't productive members of society who are black, but the numbers are getting increasingly troublesome.
Posted on 9/12/14 at 11:00 am to genro
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"Just go do it. frick."
Quite frankly, this
Posted on 9/12/14 at 11:06 am to genro
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Go be a normal member of society, and people will accept you. I promise. I live in the real world, this isn't a trap. Just go do it. frick.
That's the thing though, they don't want that.
Asians figured out a long time ago to tailor their names to Americans, not demand that Americans accept their names.
That's why there are is an influx of Asians with names like "Kevin, Mark, Sam", etc. etc..
Instead of choosing normal names, they go with bizarre names that end up getting them discriminated against and then blame other people for not taking chances. If their parents want to give them the best chance, give them appropriate names that fit with the society.
I guarantee you if I was hiring right now, I would say no to "Cherry Moonstar" just as fast as I would "Sharkeisha Wilson" based on name alone.
In America, if you work hard and apply yourself, you will get to the middle class barring special circumstances that are not race based.
Posted on 9/12/14 at 11:08 am to StrawsDrawnAtRandom
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I agree, blacks shouldn't view themselves as a community but it doesn't detract that the majority of them do band together due to race and nothing more.
You throw out terms like "the majority" but that's becoming less and less the case. Minorities banding together over certain issues isn't unique to black people nor is it a new or particularly noteworthy phenomenon.
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They do this with White Privilege (as opposed to calling it Majority Privilege).
And that is because whites ate the majority in America. Kind of a silly semantic for you to constantly carp about (if you're indeed carping this time--sometimes you're tongue in cheek and I can't tell, I won't lie
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I only echo what the "Community" (much like the Black Caucus) produces. If Blacks want to be individuals, they need to stop focusing on race so much.
There you go again, talking about"community," and "they" and speaking of this collective that is a far cry from the reality that I live. All I can tell you is that this community of which you speak doesn't exist. Whether you choose to believe me or not is your prerogative. No skin off my nose either way
Also, I'm starting to crash, so if anything in this post didn't make sense, I apologize in advance for my fatigue
Posted on 9/12/14 at 11:11 am to StrawsDrawnAtRandom
The PC and multiculturalist left doesn't believe assimilation has any value to society. They live in a fantasy world. Now on to this:
Now let's get Al Sharpton to say it. (sorry TBird)
quote:FACT
In America, if you work hard and apply yourself, you will get to the middle class barring special circumstances that are not race based.
Now let's get Al Sharpton to say it. (sorry TBird)
Posted on 9/12/14 at 11:11 am to StrawsDrawnAtRandom
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I guarantee you if I was hiring right now, I would say no to "Cherry Moonstar" just as fast as I would "Sharkeisha Wilson" based on name alone.
Meh, that says more about you than anything else. The fact that names are even an issue with hiring practices is a problem, and not one that needs to be fixed by just having names that are more like the majority. We like to point out how far we've come, but instances like that are examples of what we have yet to overcome.
Posted on 9/12/14 at 11:14 am to TbirdSpur2010
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Meh, that says more about you than anything else. The fact that names are even an issue with hiring practices is a problem, and not one that needs to be fixed by just having names that are more like the majority. We like to point out how far we've come, but instances like that are examples of what we have yet to overcome.
It's simply game theory. It's not an automatic suggestion that these will be bad hires, but why even take the chance if you don't see anything other than a resume? Why take a chance with your frickin' kid and name them something crazy? Even if we're not talking about me, we know what other people do.
EDIT: Concerning names "like the majority", you don't really need to do that completely, but it definitely gives you a better shot.
Also, have a nice rest, sorry to keep you up if I did.
This post was edited on 9/12/14 at 11:15 am
Posted on 9/12/14 at 11:16 am to genro
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The PC and multiculturalist left doesn't believe assimilation has any value to society.
Also, assimilation doesn't have to mean homogenization. I don't want an America full of James/Tom/Eddie named motherfrickers
Here's a list of the names in my family: Eddie (jr.), Valerie, Eddie (III), Damani, Miriam Mariama, Valeria Ayanna, Eann Arthur, Janaya Jessalyn, Josias Hakeem, Nikolos Elias, and Jubilee Rose.
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Now let's get Al Sharpton to say it. (sorry TBird)
I'd rather walk barefoot through a room of spilled Legos than listen to that buffoon speak
This post was edited on 9/12/14 at 11:18 am
Posted on 9/12/14 at 11:18 am to StrawsDrawnAtRandom
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Also, have a nice rest, sorry to keep you up if I did.
Oh no need to apologize! Turnabout is fair play and I enjoy debating.
Have a good one, I'm out for realz for a few hours
Posted on 9/12/14 at 11:21 am to StrawsDrawnAtRandom
Wtf did I just watch.
Btw are the shirts 13 dollars to represent the 13th amendment
Btw are the shirts 13 dollars to represent the 13th amendment
Posted on 9/12/14 at 11:25 am to deltaland
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Btw are the shirts 13 dollars to represent the 13th amendment
We can only guess.
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Wtf did I just watch.
A racist video, for sure.
Posted on 9/12/14 at 11:28 am to TbirdSpur2010
quote:Those are all fine. A slightly unusual name probably isn't much of a problem. None of those venture on "Jaqueeza, Laquisha, ShaNayNay" territory. People aren't that stupid, and there's usually an obvious difference between a ethnic/family/religious name and made-up stupid sounding name. For example, I judge the frick out of these white people naming their kids Braeson and Hayden and Jaedan and fricking Tiffaneelynn
Here's a list of the names in my family: Eddie (jr.), Valerie, Eddie (III), Damani, Miriam Mariama, Valeria Ayanna, Eann Arthur, Janaya Jessalyn, Josias Hakeem, Nikolos Elias, and Jubilee Rose.
Posted on 9/12/14 at 11:35 am to genro
I just thought about all my family's names and realized how stereotypical white it is.
I have john, john mark, Wayne, Walt, Steve, Stephen, Yvonne, Dennis, Eddie, Jessica, Samantha, Paige, Ashley, Ariel, Alexis, Derek, carter, Francis, Sidney, Emily, Tiffany, Michael, Susie just to name some. White as frick
I have john, john mark, Wayne, Walt, Steve, Stephen, Yvonne, Dennis, Eddie, Jessica, Samantha, Paige, Ashley, Ariel, Alexis, Derek, carter, Francis, Sidney, Emily, Tiffany, Michael, Susie just to name some. White as frick
Posted on 9/12/14 at 11:36 am to genro
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For example, I judge the frick out of these white people naming their kids Braeson and Hayden and Jaedan and fricking Tiffaneelynn
frickin', god, yes. That. Name your kid responsibly.
We don't need fricking "Apples" and "Pilot Inspektors" running around.
People may be good people and I'd hate to judge people prematurely, but if I saw those names on a resume? No way. No way I take a chance.
Posted on 9/12/14 at 11:39 am to deltaland
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I have john, john mark, Wayne, Walt, Steve, Stephen, Yvonne, Dennis, Eddie, Jessica, Samantha, Paige, Ashley, Ariel, Alexis, Derek, carter, Francis, Sidney, Emily, Tiffany, Michael, Susie just to name some. White as frick
John, Nicole, Jessica, Keith, Kyle, Karen, Kenneth (my name), Julie, Sheri, Rachel, Chelsea.
The Hispanic side of my family (I was adopted) even has regular names: Gregory, John, Mary, Jesse, Alexis, Jessica (again), Taylor, Joshua...
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