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Got to have a job to get a car according to my father.

Posted on 6/10/16 at 2:12 pm
Posted by _Hurricane_
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Member since Feb 2016
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Posted on 6/10/16 at 2:12 pm
But I have no way of getting to said job without a car. I'm confused on how to move forward. Any suggestions on this? I know he has the money to buy one and I get he wants me to build character or whatever, but I'm great in school, have a lot of extracurricular and am about to save a butt load in scholarship money so why is he being so stubborn on this? I'm not entitled to a vehicle, I know that, but I leave school everyday seeing every idiot under the sun with one and I just feel like they haven't done anything to earn it and shouldn't my effort in school equate to having a job when money isn't the problem? I bust my arse in class and in almost every extracurricular/club my school has and play 3 sports. Haven't I proven I'm a hard worker? The job would take time away from what I'm trying to accomplish in High School.

P.S. Don't give me crap, this is a stupid problem, I know, I'm just looking for any of the dads on here for a solution. Also I'm about to turn 17, and almost all of my classmates have vehicles. I'm getting left behind in almost every out of school social circle because my parents won't drive me anywhere, so even though I put all the effort into academics, I don't get to enjoy the outside part of high school. I live 40 minutes away from my school because I'm on transfer so it's not like I can realistically expect someone to waste gas money to come get me.
This post was edited on 6/10/16 at 2:14 pm
Posted by LewDawg
Member since May 2009
75242 posts
Posted on 6/10/16 at 2:27 pm to
Walk or ride the bus. Hell, most jobs have online applications. It's not like you have to go to each place like I did. Get your life together.

Why won't your friends pick you up? Are you a shitty friend?
This post was edited on 6/10/16 at 2:30 pm
Posted by Vols&Shaft83
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Posted on 6/10/16 at 2:27 pm to
Sounds like your father is tough, and that you'll benefit from his toughness down the road.



Is he willing to transport you to and from work until you save enough for a car?
Posted by _Hurricane_
Somewhere
Member since Feb 2016
4456 posts
Posted on 6/10/16 at 2:31 pm to
I don't live with him and the car is a point of contention between him and my mother. She is of the mind that he should buy it right now but he's pushing back. I don't think he can consistently get me to a job given the scheduling or even if she will allow it to go on. My mom won't put any money up for it, but that's another story about her being that way to him. I think it's just a struggle between them over who's going to pay, I think this job thing is just an excuse for him to hold out on her. She's wrong for not helping but he has the money and I think he's just not doing it to spite her.
Posted by _Hurricane_
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Posted on 6/10/16 at 2:33 pm to
No. They're juat not willing to drive 40 minutes out of the way to pick me up.
Posted by The Spleen
Member since Dec 2010
38865 posts
Posted on 6/10/16 at 2:47 pm to
I didn't get a car until I was 18 and bought it with my own money.

I have 2 kids now, and I'll buy them a car once they get a job. I'm sure if your dad is insistent on you getting a job before a car, he'll be glad to drive you around to fill out applications. You'll be better off for it in the long run.
Posted by NYCAuburn
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Posted on 6/10/16 at 3:00 pm to
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I didn't get a car until I was 18 and bought it with my own money.


I got one at 16, I started working at 12 doing landscaping, then bought a truck at 16.
Posted by cardboardboxer
Member since Apr 2012
34337 posts
Posted on 6/10/16 at 3:01 pm to
As someone who has a lot of experience manipulating people with unrealistic expectations to lower those expectations, let me try to help you:

I would try to get one of those despicable online jobs, like those people who are basically at-home bill collectors or some other telemarketing scheme or maybe uploading Youtube videos of you playing video games. Some sort of job you couldn't even explain to your great grandad if you tried and even if you did he would be pissed his ancestor was doing it.

You dad sounds like a decent upsetting person, so he will ask you why the frick you are doing that sort of job.

That is when you lay on him "well if I had a car I could drive to a job you will actually respect. This is the best I can do without a car. Just doing what you told me to do dad the best I can."

At that moment your dad will learn the error of his forced Catch 22 and buy you the car on the condition that you get a job in retail or something where he won't be embarrassed to tell his friends what you do.

You need to keep to that promise, but via this manipulative plan you will get a car without having to walk or bus to a decent job like he probably is intending you to do.

Thank me later.
This post was edited on 6/10/16 at 3:20 pm
Posted by airfernando
Member since Oct 2015
15248 posts
Posted on 6/10/16 at 3:08 pm to
quote:

ou dad sounds like a decent upsetting person
one positive doesn't make someone decent. It's a start. A broken home contradicts. As far as the car, sounds like the father is using it as an excuse, and a good one at that. If the mother wants op to have a car, she can buy him one or at least initiate the purchase and when op gets a job, the father can pick up the payments.
Posted by vuvuzela
Oregon
Member since Jun 2010
14663 posts
Posted on 6/10/16 at 3:11 pm to
boy i walked almost 2 hours both ways to raise up the money i needed to buy a fricking bicycle. then i biked an hour a day for a year just to get the money up for a scooter. I then scootered 30 minutes a day to save up for my first car, a 1976 ford pinto. i drove that pinto 15 minutes a day until i saved up enough to buy a personal helicopter which i now park on top of one of the buildings i own. I fly it for about 2 hours a day.

I didn't do any of that.
Posted by cardboardboxer
Member since Apr 2012
34337 posts
Posted on 6/10/16 at 3:12 pm to
quote:

one positive doesn't make someone decent.


Good point.

OP if I am wrong and your dad is not a decent person, or you having a shitty job just isn't a big enough motivator to not spite your mom, you need to move onto plan B.

Plan B is get him to commit to some family event (July 4th, Labor Day, heck even Thanksgiving if you can wait that long) that will have someone there- an uncle, his best friend, your mom's super bossy aunt, etc. - that your dad is very motivated to not look like a jackass in front off. Do your job, stick to it and wait for that date.

On that date find a way to sneak into a conversation with that person (within an earshot of your dad, that is the key part of the timing) what you are currently doing in like a five minutes spiel that includes all the worst parts of the job from the perspective of a middle aged man. If your dad butts in and cuts you off before you finish your spiel the car is as good as yours.

Nothing motivates people, even shitty people, like social pressure does. That is a life lesson I wish I knew at your age.
Posted by skrayper
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Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 6/10/16 at 3:13 pm to
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I got one at 16, I started working at 12 doing landscaping, then bought a truck at 16.


Times have changed. What was possible for us, isn't always possible for others in the current generation.

You could go to college and pay for it entirely with a minimum wage job just a few decades ago, but that's impossible now.

That said, knowing more about your predicament would help. Do you have a friend who has a job where you are? Perhaps you could get a job with a similar schedule and carpool.
Posted by BluegrassBelle
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Member since Nov 2010
99065 posts
Posted on 6/10/16 at 3:15 pm to
I shared a truck with my Mom until I went off to college and they bought me a car. I rode to school with friends. I started working at 14 (skating rink up the road) and road the bus unless I got a ride. I also was a good student and athlete.

Basically, it is what it is.
Posted by PhilipMarlowe
Member since Mar 2013
20509 posts
Posted on 6/10/16 at 3:18 pm to
It sounds like you should put your dad in a shitty nursing home when the time comes.
Posted by cardboardboxer
Member since Apr 2012
34337 posts
Posted on 6/10/16 at 3:22 pm to
quote:

It sounds like you should put your dad in a shitty nursing home when the time comes.



Don't threaten to do that today though OP, it will only hurt your cause. Just consider it a long term Plan C.
Posted by BamaFan70
Mississippi
Member since Oct 2009
1568 posts
Posted on 6/10/16 at 3:29 pm to
Bought my own truck at 17. Have 3 grown sons now, and I didn't buy them a vehicle either. They got a job, saved up, and bought their own trucks.
Posted by The Nino
Member since Jan 2010
21521 posts
Posted on 6/10/16 at 3:43 pm to
quote:

I would try to get one of those despicable online jobs, like those people who are basically at-home bill collectors or some other telemarketing scheme or maybe uploading Youtube videos of you playing video games. Some sort of job you couldn't even explain to your great grandad if you tried and even if you did he would be pissed his ancestor was doing it.
Online survey company. I had pretty bad insomnia in college so I signed up for a few of these companies to pass the time. Takes very little effort, and you can get anywhere from $0.50-$100 per survey set (the $100 surveys are rare...expect $0.50-$5.00 per survey set). You can do the surveys whenever you want, there no minimum or maximum number you have to do. Depending how committed you are, you can actually make a decent amount.
Posted by cardboardboxer
Member since Apr 2012
34337 posts
Posted on 6/10/16 at 3:43 pm to
Boom there you go OP. That sounds perfect.
Posted by DanMullins4Life
Member since Oct 2012
3168 posts
Posted on 6/10/16 at 3:51 pm to
Your Dad sounds like a jerk. Have you considered becoming gay and dating a black man to get back at him?


That's what I did.
Posted by PrivatePublic
Member since Nov 2012
17848 posts
Posted on 6/10/16 at 4:10 pm to
I'm with your dad on this one. The fact that he has the money to buy you a car is irrelevant. The bottom line is that you want the best of both worlds, to have a car and go be social but also not have to work so you can focus on the school. Well sweetheart, life is often unfair and almost never cake-and-eat-it-too for the average person. Your dad is saying you have to choose. So choose. There are advantages and disadvantages to both. If you want to hash those out I'm willing to help. But I suspect you won't be.
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