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re: Do you recycle?

Posted on 5/6/15 at 11:47 am to
Posted by Stonehog
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Posted on 5/6/15 at 11:47 am to
You don't have a lot of real world experience because you were home schooled.
Posted by Person of interest
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Posted on 5/6/15 at 11:48 am to
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I recycle, but here (Evans,Ga) you either have to pay a extra fee or take it to recycle center yourself. The extra fee seems stupid to me.



That is stupid. In Fayetteville the more you recycle the smaller garbage can that is needed, and the bill is lower for the smaller cans.
Posted by the808bass
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Posted on 5/6/15 at 11:52 am to
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The alternative to recycling green glass is to use virgin materials—sand—and add the chemical compounds and color required.

A cubic yard of mixed cullet can actually be much more expensive to convert into usable glass than a cubic yard of sand, depending on conditions. That means that “recycling,” when you add on the fuel costs and pollution impact of collecting small quantities of the stuff from neighborhoods, actually uses more energy, and wastes more resources, than using virgin materials.

There are exceptions. If disposal costs are high and there is actual demand for the cullet, then green glass is highly recyclable. The best example is northern California, with valuable land, a large population, and lots of manufacturers eager to put new wine in recycled bottles.


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Still, given the costs and lack of demand in most areas, opportunities for environmentally responsible recycling of green glass are rare. As a result, hundreds of municipalities across the United States have tried to suspend their glass recycling programs.[1] Interestingly, in some of these (including my home town of Raleigh, North Carolina) there were legal or political barriers that forced the resumption of curbside glass collection. Citizens voted to force the city to pick up the glass in those plastic bins, because they don’t like to throw the glass away. The glass is picked up, trucked to the recycling facility, and either bagged or boxed and then shipped, in a different truck, to the landfill. In effect, citizens are paying the city extra to throw away the glass, so that they can pretend it’s being recycled.[2]


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Posted by Stonehog
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Posted on 5/6/15 at 12:06 pm to
That still doesn't support the idea that recycling is bad for the environment like you stated. That's one example of one type of glass.
Posted by Wtodd
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Posted on 5/6/15 at 12:09 pm to
He didn't say it was bad; just not cost effective.
Posted by the808bass
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Posted on 5/6/15 at 12:31 pm to
If you're running separate trucks to landfills to dump glass, it's a net loss to the environment. And it's inefficient (which is kinda the opposite way recycling was sold).
Posted by piggilicious
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Posted on 5/6/15 at 12:36 pm to
i've never recycled glass, does your average person recycle glass stuff?
Posted by the808bass
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Posted on 5/6/15 at 12:40 pm to
I don't think glass is recycled much anymore (probably partly because of the reasons above and partly because it's not used for containers as much anymore).

I remember going to the recycling center when I was a kid and my brother and I taking turns chucking bottles against the concrete wall of the recycling bin designated for glass.
Posted by BluegrassBelle
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Posted on 5/6/15 at 12:41 pm to
They just did an expose a couple years ago here on how the city was charging for recycling services but was just dumping it in the landfill anyway. I'll just take bottles and cans over once a month. Any newspapers, magazines, and anything that can be reused in craft form I pass along to coworkers who need them for class projects.
Posted by Vols&Shaft83
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Posted on 5/6/15 at 12:45 pm to
No, because I want to make you and SpidermanTuba cry.




Posted by finestfirst79
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Posted on 5/6/15 at 12:48 pm to
Plastic, newspaper, cardboard, aluminum.

Someone rather close to me is on a kick over recycling every damn thing. We've accumulated 3 years of green glass wine bottles while she looks for a place to take them. (As far as I can tell such place does not exist within 50 miles.) She's had a fit both times I've suggested it may be time for the trashcan and I get the "Don't you care about anything???" speech. So... that's off my list of things to worry about.
Posted by Stonehog
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Posted on 5/6/15 at 12:49 pm to
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If you're running separate trucks to landfills to dump glass, it's a net loss to the environment.


Again, one example of one type of glass in one city. If you said recycling green glass in Raleigh negatively affects the environment, you might have a point. But that's not what you said.
Posted by bbvdd
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Posted on 5/6/15 at 12:52 pm to
My family does recycle but here is my beef with the recycling companies at least here in Memphis. They charge you a pretty decent fee to come and pick it up and then turn around and sell the recycled products to companies.

If they are selling it they shouldn't be charging me to pick it up.
Posted by TbirdSpur2010
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Posted on 5/6/15 at 12:57 pm to
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You don't have a lot of real world experience because you were home schooled.


There are many great homeschool zingers out there.

That wasn't one of them, ol' sport
Posted by the808bass
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Posted on 5/6/15 at 12:57 pm to
But you're ignoring all the other resources that going to the question. Green glass has to be sorted out of regular glass. That's utilizing resources. Multiple truck trips have to be made. All sorts of resources have to be utilized in order to get the recycle glass to usable state again
Posted by Stonehog
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Posted on 5/6/15 at 1:08 pm to
The negative effects of recycling green glass don't outweigh the benefits of recycling everything else.
Posted by AUbagman
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Posted on 5/6/15 at 1:19 pm to
Yes, we recycle pretty much everything possible. My wife is hardcore. I don't mind though, the concept of reusing is cool to me.
Posted by Person of interest
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Posted on 5/6/15 at 1:20 pm to
Fayetteville takes all glass, also take yard waste and compost or mulch it. Mulch and compost can be bought back from the city much cheaper than home improvement stores.
Posted by Rebel Land Shark
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Posted on 5/6/15 at 1:21 pm to
Nope waste of time
Posted by the808bass
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Posted on 5/6/15 at 1:26 pm to
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The negative effects of recycling green glass don't outweigh the benefits of recycling everything else.


No one said that.
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