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re: Bush in 2007 delivered eerily accurate warning about Iraq unrest
Posted on 9/11/14 at 2:26 pm to BillyBobPorkin
Posted on 9/11/14 at 2:26 pm to BillyBobPorkin
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Regardless of your interpretation: The chaos that is going on today in the Middle East, Ukraine, Somalia, and Yemen, is solely on the liberals and that fricktard, Obama.
You forgot Ebola.
Posted on 9/11/14 at 2:29 pm to Tiguar
You guys should just stop responding to him.
Posted on 9/11/14 at 2:32 pm to roadGator
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You guys should just stop responding to him.
Easier said than done.
Posted on 9/11/14 at 2:34 pm to roadGator
It's fun though. He's so stupid. :/
Posted on 9/11/14 at 3:04 pm to cas4t
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Bush received false intel. I'm no supporter of his, but I don't believe he intentionally lied.
Exactly ... Bush could be incredibly stupid at times, but he wasn't a liar.
The guy in office right now, is the epitome of the consummate liar - perhaps the most criminal lying sack of shite of all time. Literally, if his lips are moving he is lying.
Posted on 9/11/14 at 3:18 pm to cas4t
If 10+ years wasn't enough, then sideways 8 wouldn't be enough time either. Removing a dictator who commits human rights violations just so we can instead is not the brightest idea... Gitmo, indiscriminate droning, water boarding and other torture. We've achieved nothing, wasted trillions, lost and maimed several upstanding young men, and managed to prove we were the shitty occupiers the terrorists said we'd be. To top it off some of you want to do it again
Posted on 9/11/14 at 3:26 pm to cas4t
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Bush received false intel.
Posted on 9/11/14 at 3:47 pm to The Spleen
Spleen, Miz_Cou, SC Rooster, stonehog, V&S, all in one thread.
Just wanted to point out that this is happening and it's beautiful.
Just wanted to point out that this is happening and it's beautiful.
Posted on 9/11/14 at 4:55 pm to scrooster
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Exactly ... Bush could be incredibly stupid at times, but he wasn't a liar.
Momentous day. 1) I agree with you. Didn't think that was possible, and 2) You're back. Several of us were afraid you had offed yourself.
Posted on 9/11/14 at 5:35 pm to Stonehog
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You're pretty naïve if you believe that.
A fellow from the Al-Janabi tribe seeking amnesty created that story and it was gathered through German intel but was not immediately released to Fiveeyes. The guy was the son of a Batthist Shitte who was a friend of Hussein. All this is documented, even to the levels of not having enough evidence to support the claim. Was it created by us? frick no you conspiracy snorting blowhard. Was the intel there from a known source but not confirmed? Absolutely
Posted on 9/11/14 at 5:35 pm to ehole
Bush got the ball rolling in this foreign policy disaster going to war in Iraq. Obama make the political move instead of the strategic one pulling out when we did. The last thing you want anywhere in the Middle East is a power vacuum.
FWIW, stopping ISIS/ISIL/IS requires the Arab states in the region to say "enough" and be the bodies on the ground. If we clean it up, it'll be ISIS in another name five years from now and it'll be back in a different name.
FWIW, stopping ISIS/ISIL/IS requires the Arab states in the region to say "enough" and be the bodies on the ground. If we clean it up, it'll be ISIS in another name five years from now and it'll be back in a different name.
Posted on 9/11/14 at 5:39 pm to Duke
Cut off one head of the Scientology Hydra, 3 more grow back in its place.
Posted on 9/11/14 at 5:47 pm to BillyBobPorkin
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The chaos that is going on today in the Middle East, Ukraine, Somalia, and Yemen, is solely on the liberals and that fricktard, Obama.
I'm conservative and I'll admit that this is complete bullshite.
Most of that would have happened anyways. The Middle East has been in turmoil since biblical times.
Putin would have still invaded Ukraine because he used the opportunity to take advantage of a war weary America, knowing the people wouldn't support us getting involved. Doesn't matter if we had an R or a D in office.
Posted on 9/11/14 at 5:49 pm to Duke
The problem with this is terrorism and sectarian violence can be two different things to them but indistinguishable to us. Those family / religion lines are drawn much deeper into the sand than any government border over there as well.
Posted on 9/11/14 at 5:52 pm to Duke
The only way to defeat groups like ISIS is
1. Scorched Earth. Basically disregard civilians and just wipe the area out.
2. Find the source of their weapons and funding and cut it off. Of course, we are the actual source of many of the arms they acquired because we keep supporting rebel groups in the ME. If we stop intervening over there, a lot of this wouldn't happen.
1. Scorched Earth. Basically disregard civilians and just wipe the area out.
2. Find the source of their weapons and funding and cut it off. Of course, we are the actual source of many of the arms they acquired because we keep supporting rebel groups in the ME. If we stop intervening over there, a lot of this wouldn't happen.
Posted on 9/11/14 at 5:57 pm to Hardy_Har
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Those family / religion lines are drawn much deeper into the sand
Bigotry, RA'd
Posted on 9/11/14 at 6:02 pm to Duke
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Bush got the ball rolling in this foreign policy disaster going to war in Iraq.
Let's back up to Carter and Iran. Or we can go further. Never mind, let's not.
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