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re: Baltimore Orioles Executive VP Speaks Truth: US Elite Class Has No Loyalty

Posted on 4/29/15 at 8:50 pm to
Posted by wmr
North of Dickson, South of Herman's
Member since Mar 2009
32518 posts
Posted on 4/29/15 at 8:50 pm to
The problem is Democracy.

A strong centralized dictator-style govt, you wouldn't have corporate money buying elections and lobbying for favorable laws, etc.

Democracy needs to end so our business leaders are forced to be loyal.
Posted by hipgnosis
Member since Mar 2015
1226 posts
Posted on 4/29/15 at 8:53 pm to
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They have a fiduciary responsibility to shareholders to maximize profit.


Which is a problem.

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Maybe if our corporate tax rate wasn't the highest in the world,


This is a red flag for ignorance. As stated by others in the thread.

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taxes them out of the arse


Some of the biggest pay zero income tax. And are catered to by the government in which they control.

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. A scale back of regulations and entry barriers would lead to more local, small businesses that are more loyal to their local economy.


You're actually making my point but you're not smart enough to realize it.

Large corporations want entry barriers to be tough, and they want regulations that only they can comply with to keep new comers out of their market space.
Posted by scrooster
Resident Ethicist
Member since Jul 2012
37613 posts
Posted on 4/29/15 at 8:56 pm to
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It's easy to blame things like Unions when you only eat what your spoon feeds you.

95% of you get your opinions on the world by talking to like minded people and listening to the pundits that fit your opinions on how the world should work.

The ability to think independently is almost 0% around here.

It's shocking really.


Stirs wit Dickoes gon skool us 'bout independent tinking!






Posted by Stir of Echoes
SD, LA, OC, and the Inland Empire.
Member since Feb 2015
1052 posts
Posted on 4/29/15 at 9:21 pm to
You're the ringleader of "everything I say is gospel because I read it on some hack job facist website" around here, so I'm not shocked that I struck a nerve with you.

Posted by dead money
kyle, tx
Member since Feb 2014
1391 posts
Posted on 4/29/15 at 9:45 pm to
Not to mention that the NAFTA agreement under the Clinton administration was pro-business and a giant dick up the arse for everyone not in an elite status.
Posted by Aubie Spr96
lolwut?
Member since Dec 2009
41103 posts
Posted on 4/29/15 at 10:08 pm to
Competition is a bitch ain't it? Guess companies should operate at a loss for the good of the slobs in Baltimore?
Posted by hipgnosis
Member since Mar 2015
1226 posts
Posted on 4/29/15 at 10:19 pm to
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Competition is a bitch ain't it? Guess companies should operate at a loss for the good of the slobs in Baltimore?


If you're serious, you're not worth the response.

Exploitation is not competition.
Posted by 3nOut
Central Texas, TX
Member since Jan 2013
28876 posts
Posted on 4/29/15 at 10:23 pm to
Mizzou confuses me. We get 808, semi, and kills. Love them. Then we get hipmotiger, miz_cou, and this crap lord.
Posted by hipgnosis
Member since Mar 2015
1226 posts
Posted on 4/29/15 at 10:24 pm to
What do you disagree with from the VP's comments?
Posted by hipgnosis
Member since Mar 2015
1226 posts
Posted on 4/29/15 at 10:33 pm to
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NAFTA


It's a protectionist agreement.

It has virtually nothing to do with free trade.

This is very well understood.

It allows a company like GM to be treated like a Mexican citizen/business in Mexico, while not allowing the same the other way.

It allows a corporation to sue the state if the state takes measures that interfere with profits -- so if Mexico wants to change their environmental laws, US corporations can sue them for disrupting future profits.

The entire notion of it being a 'free trade agreement' is totally false.

It takes the intellectual class to bring this stuff to light -- the shitty thing is the true intellectual class is totally omitted from mainstream culture.
This post was edited on 4/29/15 at 10:47 pm
Posted by 3nOut
Central Texas, TX
Member since Jan 2013
28876 posts
Posted on 4/29/15 at 10:42 pm to
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That said, my greater source of personal concern, outrage and sympathy beyond this particular case is focused neither upon one night’s property damage nor upon the acts, but is focused rather upon the past four-decade period during which an American political elite have shipped middle class and working class jobs away from Baltimore and cities and towns around the U.S. to third-world dictatorships like China and others, plunged tens of millions of good hard-working Americans into economic devastation, and then followed that action around the nation by diminishing every American’s civil rights protections in order to control an unfairly impoverished population living under an ever-declining standard of living and suffering at the butt end of an ever-more militarized and aggressive surveillance state.


Why did these jobs all of the sudden go overseas?

Did corporate America just one day decide to screw the American worker for no reason whatsoever or was there a catalyst? There has to be some reason that it was magically cheaper to send labor overseas than continue with the American working class.

Do the Orioles have any non-Americans playing on their team? They would be robbing a hard working American from their job.

Is the unfairly impoverished state that way because their employer doesn't pay them enough? I'd hate to see how impoverished they'd be if there wasn't somebody to sign their checks.

I can deconstruct every sentence, but you wouldn't understand.
Posted by hipgnosis
Member since Mar 2015
1226 posts
Posted on 4/29/15 at 10:44 pm to
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Did corporate America just one day decide to screw the American worker for no reason whatsoever or was there a catalyst? There has to be some reason that it was magically cheaper to send labor overseas than continue with the American working class.


You're not worth the response.

And I don't feel bad about saying that.

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Do the Orioles have any non-Americans playing on their team?


You're a legit idiot. Truly.
Posted by 3nOut
Central Texas, TX
Member since Jan 2013
28876 posts
Posted on 4/29/15 at 10:51 pm to
Yet, people laugh at you and say,"Hipgnosis. Didn't read"
I've never been banned.
I've never had to make a another account.
I don't think the government made the Twin Towers implode.
I don't condescend to every post that doesn't line up with my worldview and accrue massive downvotes.

I think I'm good here
This post was edited on 4/29/15 at 10:52 pm
Posted by hipgnosis
Member since Mar 2015
1226 posts
Posted on 4/29/15 at 11:00 pm to
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Yet, people laugh at you and say,"Hipgnosis. Didn't read"


Never seen that, but I'm sure that could've happened.

Odd comment to make when that's clearly not something that happens often, or in any of the threads I have going right now.

Almost as odd as asking if the Orioles have any non-Americans on their team. I mean, honestly, only a severely simple minded person would think that has any relevance.
This post was edited on 4/29/15 at 11:05 pm
Posted by Stonehog
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Member since Aug 2011
33330 posts
Posted on 4/29/15 at 11:29 pm to
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our regulations weren't so excessive


Like child labor laws, weekends, and minimum wage?
Posted by Stonehog
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Member since Aug 2011
33330 posts
Posted on 4/29/15 at 11:37 pm to
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Did corporate America just one day decide to screw the American worker for no reason whatsoever or was there a catalyst?


You can get Bangladeshi 8 year olds to make Old Navy polos for practically nothing. Like legit slave labor.

Can't really do that in the U.S. anymore. Damn regulations!
Posted by Stir of Echoes
SD, LA, OC, and the Inland Empire.
Member since Feb 2015
1052 posts
Posted on 4/30/15 at 12:12 am to
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Can't really do that in the U.S. anymore. Damn regulations!


Goddamn Unions! If only we didn't have them so we could let our kids work 16 hour days for 50 cents a day.
This post was edited on 4/30/15 at 12:13 am
Posted by Rebelgator
Pripyat Bridge
Member since Mar 2010
39543 posts
Posted on 4/30/15 at 12:17 am to
Who the frick shops at old navy? You're a poor ill-dressing motherfricker if you're shopping there.
Posted by Merck
Tuscaloosa
Member since Nov 2009
1693 posts
Posted on 4/30/15 at 12:40 am to
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poor


I see what you did there
Posted by Old Sarge
Dean of Admissions, LSU
Member since Jan 2012
55285 posts
Posted on 4/30/15 at 5:12 am to
That's BS, most not all but most are doing it to survive. In the 90s the government failed to protect the American manufacturing.
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