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Baltimore Orioles Executive VP Speaks Truth: US Elite Class Has No Loyalty

Posted on 4/29/15 at 7:22 pm
Posted by hipgnosis
Member since Mar 2015
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Posted on 4/29/15 at 7:22 pm
This is such a huge topic, that can go into much depth.

Basically he's calling out the elite class for allowing America to be shipped around the world. Large corporations have no loyalty to country, they only have loyalty to profit, with an incredible lack of foresight.

We can talk about Adam Smith's Invisible Hand, and it's true meaning -- that people would have loyalty to their local economies, acting as an invisible hand that would resist neo-liberal globalization (which is what we have now). But we won't do that, we'll keep it simple.

Here are his words.

That said, my greater source of personal concern, outrage and sympathy beyond this particular case is focused neither upon one night’s property damage nor upon the acts, but is focused rather upon the past four-decade period during which an American political elite have shipped middle class and working class jobs away from Baltimore and cities and towns around the U.S. to third-world dictatorships like China and others, plunged tens of millions of good hard-working Americans into economic devastation, and then followed that action around the nation by diminishing every American’s civil rights protections in order to control an unfairly impoverished population living under an ever-declining standard of living and suffering at the butt end of an ever-more militarized and aggressive surveillance state.

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This post was edited on 4/29/15 at 7:41 pm
Posted by K9
wayx....BOBO IN '19
Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 4/29/15 at 7:25 pm to
these CEOs aint loyal
Posted by hipgnosis
Member since Mar 2015
1226 posts
Posted on 4/29/15 at 7:26 pm to
Okay?

Doesn't take an ounce away from the truth in his statement.
Posted by SoFla Tideroller
South Florida
Member since Apr 2010
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Posted on 4/29/15 at 7:27 pm to
Does he mention how the unions priced their own labor force out of the market?
Posted by PrivatePublic
Member since Nov 2012
17848 posts
Posted on 4/29/15 at 7:29 pm to
Local economies need to adapt to be competitive. frick naive loyalty when it comes to feeding your family and putting your kids through college
Posted by hipgnosis
Member since Mar 2015
1226 posts
Posted on 4/29/15 at 7:31 pm to
quote:

Does he mention how the unions priced their own labor force out of the market?


Unions grew out of control, largely do to so many of the ill mechanisms in our eco/poli environment.

Regardless, your comment isn't as potent as you think.
Posted by hipgnosis
Member since Mar 2015
1226 posts
Posted on 4/29/15 at 7:32 pm to
quote:

Local economies need to adapt to be competitive. frick naive loyalty when it comes to feeding your family and putting your kids through college



At the expense of destroying the land those kids/family will have to live?
Posted by Stir of Echoes
SD, LA, OC, and the Inland Empire.
Member since Feb 2015
1052 posts
Posted on 4/29/15 at 7:39 pm to
It's easy to blame things like Unions when you only eat what your spoon feeds you.

95% of you get your opinions on the world by talking to like minded people and listening to the pundits that fit your opinions on how the world should work.

The ability to think independently is almost 0% around here.

It's shocking really.
Posted by cokebottleag
I’m a Santos Republican
Member since Aug 2011
24028 posts
Posted on 4/29/15 at 7:47 pm to
Please explain why companies are expect to be loyal to a government that makes a habit of shitting on them for popularity, and punishing them for making a profit.

Where are the calls for the government to be more loyal to the elite class? Or to not tax corporations at the highest tax rate in the world?
Posted by Vols&Shaft83
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Member since Dec 2012
69895 posts
Posted on 4/29/15 at 7:48 pm to
quote:

Where are the calls for the government to be more loyal to the elite class? Or to not tax corporations at the highest tax rate in the world?





You just don't get it man
Posted by kywildcatfanone
Wildcat Country!
Member since Oct 2012
118893 posts
Posted on 4/29/15 at 7:51 pm to
quote:

Please explain why companies are expect to be loyal to a government that makes a habit of shitting on them for popularity, and punishing them for making a profit.


Was going to post similar. This and unions are why companies move work overseas.
Posted by hipgnosis
Member since Mar 2015
1226 posts
Posted on 4/29/15 at 7:52 pm to
quote:

Please explain why companies are expect to be loyal to a government


You're out of tune from the beginning.

It's not about companies being loyal to government.

quote:

Or to not tax corporations at the highest tax rate in the world?


Want me to start listing corporations that pay zero income tax?

Our government is globalist centric, just like our large corporations -- they work hand in hand.

Posted by Vols&Shaft83
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Posted on 4/29/15 at 7:55 pm to
quote:

Our government is globalist centric, just like our large corporations -- they work hand in hand.




I agree, one cannot exist without the other. What should we do about it? I know voting doesn't work. Revolution? We can't get enough people to agree with each other to have an effective revolution.

Posted by cokebottleag
I’m a Santos Republican
Member since Aug 2011
24028 posts
Posted on 4/29/15 at 7:56 pm to
quote:

Want me to start listing corporations that pay zero income tax?


Let me ask you something: if a person has to pay taxes, and isn't convicted of a felony, should they get to vote?
Posted by blzr
Keeneland
Member since Mar 2011
30084 posts
Posted on 4/29/15 at 8:07 pm to
Yea they like making money, I'd do the same to be that rich.
Posted by Tiger n Miami AU83
Miami
Member since Oct 2007
45656 posts
Posted on 4/29/15 at 8:09 pm to
Agree. Large corporations make the government what it is.

And I always laugh at people that bring up that ridiculous line about highest corporate tax rate in the world.

Let's you know right of the bat that person doesn't understand what they are talking about and is just parroting.
This post was edited on 4/29/15 at 8:11 pm
Posted by hipgnosis
Member since Mar 2015
1226 posts
Posted on 4/29/15 at 8:13 pm to
quote:



I agree, one cannot exist without the other. What should we do about it? I know voting doesn't work. Revolution? We can't get enough people to agree with each other to have an effective revolution.



I don't know.

I don't..

I guess I hope these lines that are dividing us, political branding and race, primarily, start to fade as people evolve out of their comfort zones -- which would allow us, the people to be more powerful.

On the idea of revolution, I definitely don't support violence (not on moral ground but on the fact that we'd have no chance). I used to say I'm big on withdrawal. Just not participating in their game. But idk about that anymore.

I'd like there to just be a huge, and relatively swift shift to a more truth based, healthy, common sense minded way of seeing things. I guess a conscious evolution, which I think is happening right now.

But I'm as lost as anybody on what is going to happen, or what we should do.



Posted by deltaland
Member since Mar 2011
90479 posts
Posted on 4/29/15 at 8:23 pm to
quote:

Large corporations have no loyalty to country, they only have loyalty to profit, with an incredible lack of foresight.


They have a fiduciary responsibility to shareholders to maximize profit.

Maybe if our corporate tax rate wasn't the highest in the world, and our regulations weren't so excessive, then those companies would stay here.

Why would you expect them to be loyal to a country and a government who demonizes them, taxes them out of the arse to pay for their own greedy entitlements, and regulates them to hell and back. A more business friendly environment would keep business here in the US. A scale back of regulations and entry barriers would lead to more local, small businesses that are more loyal to their local economy.
Posted by RockyMtnTigerWDE
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Member since Oct 2010
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Posted on 4/29/15 at 8:23 pm to
Posted by deltaland
Member since Mar 2011
90479 posts
Posted on 4/29/15 at 8:27 pm to
quote:

Where are the calls for the government to be more loyal to the elite class? Or to not tax corporations at the highest tax rate in the world?


Not just to the elite, but loyal to the people in general. They constantly frick the middle class small business owners via regulations and over taxation.
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