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re: Average SAT and ACT scores for SEC students.

Posted on 5/25/15 at 4:12 pm to
Posted by DoreonthePlains
Auburn, AL
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Posted on 5/25/15 at 4:12 pm to
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and now the only student in the SEC to have turned down every single Ivy League school to attend.


I'm not sure if this is even true. I wouldn't be surprised if Vandy had one. Although, the number of people who apply to ALL the Ivy League schools is probably not that large. Regardless of whether he is the only one or not, this fact really does not do much for Alabama to prove its prestige. He is attending Alabama because it is much cheaper than the Ivy League schools, and he is being financially prudent. I definitely can't fault the kid for his choice, but it is not something for Alabama to hang its hat on about how great of a school it is.
Posted by Tuscaloosa
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Posted on 5/25/15 at 4:15 pm to
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but it is not something for Alabama to hang its hat on about how great of a school it is.


That wasn't the point of me posting that bit of information. I was attempting to respond to this comment, while addressing the Florida guy's comment as well.

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... the smart kids choose Auburn over bama?


Posted by randomways
North Carolina
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Posted on 5/25/15 at 4:19 pm to
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Although, the number of people who apply to ALL the Ivy League schools is probably not that large.


You'd be surprised. I had several friends from Ivy League feeder schools up north and they applied to all of them just to be able to say that they turned down X number of Ivies to attend the Ivy that was their first choice.
This post was edited on 5/25/15 at 4:19 pm
Posted by DoreonthePlains
Auburn, AL
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Posted on 5/25/15 at 4:19 pm to
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You'd be surprised. I had several friends from Ivy League feeder schools up north and they applied to all of them just to be able to say that they turned down X number of Ivies to attend the Ivy that was their first choice.


Maybe I just don't know enough pretentious assholes
Posted by DawgCountry
Great State of GA
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Posted on 5/25/15 at 4:21 pm to
Clear cut Big 3
Posted by TheRookbird
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Posted on 5/25/15 at 4:21 pm to
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and we just had a guy turn down all of the Ivy League schools to take a scholarship at Alabama.


Now that dumbass should fit right in.
Posted by randomways
North Carolina
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Posted on 5/25/15 at 4:22 pm to
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Maybe I just don't know enough pretentious assholes


Oh man, don't get me started on how many of my friends were pretentious assholes that I wouldn't willingly choose to spend an evening with.


Also, don't ask why they were my friends because I honestly have no clue.
Posted by Tuscaloosa
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Posted on 5/25/15 at 4:22 pm to
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Now that dumbass should fit right in.


Will end up graduating from an Ivy League med school, starting his own medical practice, and donating a gazillion dollars to Bama.
Posted by AU66
Northport Al
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Posted on 5/25/15 at 4:26 pm to
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Bama and Auburn grads know that there is little to no difference between the two schools academically. Science, Tech, Engineering and Veterinary minded students go to Auburn. Business, Law, Medicine and Liberal Arts minded students go to Bama. Simple as that. Both are big state schools in the SEC and both pull students from the same pool of applicants. Squabbling over a 1 point difference on the ACT is really silly considering how similar the two schools are.


i agree with this, seems the two in-state schools have done a really good job of specializing without directly competing with each other to give in-state kids better options, though i do find it surprising that when you are statistically comparing 5,000 in-coming freshman the 1 point difference is pretty noticeable , seems like with that wide a pool you might see almost no difference statistically...but wow at Vandy beating everyone by 5 points on the ACT.
This post was edited on 5/25/15 at 4:37 pm
Posted by TheRookbird
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Posted on 5/25/15 at 4:28 pm to
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Will end up graduating from an Ivy League med school, starting his own medical practice, and donating a gazillion dollars to Bama.


Too bad he'll have to marry his cousin.. but c'est la vie.
Posted by randomways
North Carolina
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Posted on 5/25/15 at 4:33 pm to
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Too bad he'll have to marry his cousin.. but c'est la vie.


The guy's from Tennessee, right? He never had a choice in the matter regardless of where he chose to go. Well, unless he went to Oxford or Cambridge, because English law forbids incest except in the case of aristocracy, where it's mandated.
Posted by nvasil1
Hellinois
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Posted on 5/25/15 at 4:37 pm to
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I think correlation has been pretty well established as causation when talking about the relationship between success in sports and an uptick in applications. It's not as weird as you'd think because the sports are essentially (quasi-)free advertising. You're getting your name out there, you're getting images of your student body and frequently of your campus on national TV, et cetera, so it's not just about sports per se. If we lived in a country where college poetry slams were big business, the televising of said events would work the same way.

Oh I know, that's not surprising at all. I was more saying that there are a lot kids applying to schools for different reasons without realizing how competitive certain academic institutions are.

My Dad worked at CPS and he said students would send applications to places like the University of Chicago and Northwestern because they were "close to home" or they heard they were "good schools". Few of them realized their 16 on the ACT would be a problem. Different things like that can skew acceptance rates somewhat.
Posted by Prof
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Posted on 5/25/15 at 4:40 pm to
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I think correlation has been pretty well established as causation when talking about the relationship between success in sports and an uptick in applications. It's not as weird as you'd think because the sports are essentially (quasi-)free advertising. You're getting your name out there, you're getting images of your student body and frequently of your campus on national TV, et cetera, so it's not just about sports per se. If we lived in a country where college poetry slams were big business, the televising of said events would work the same way.


Exactly so and it goes beyond just having a successful year (or Champs experience -- the larger application bump). It's critical for schools to utilize the free advertising big time sports provides. Vanderbilt is actually a good example of this. Without football and other sports keeping it's name out there over the decades, it could've easily become Belmont (a very overlooked school outside of the state and region). And with a tougher college market these days, it's easier than people realize for schools, even state schools, to become relegated to history in terms of staying competitive for students and faculty.

People don't think of colleges and universities recruiting faculty and regular students in the same competitive manner as athletes but they do. It is critical to survival these days.
This post was edited on 5/25/15 at 4:44 pm
Posted by deeprig9
Unincorporated Ozora, Georgia
Member since Sep 2012
63867 posts
Posted on 5/25/15 at 5:02 pm to
Auburn's SAT stat is skewed high by the number of smart kids from Georgia who couldnt quite make the cut for UGA admissions.

For those of you who don't know, Auburn is basically a fall-back school for UGA applicants.

Its true, you can look it up. It has been published by reputable outlets. I would source it for you but im on my phone and im not a millenial so i cant do that. You just have to trust me.
Posted by 870Hog
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Posted on 5/25/15 at 5:28 pm to
No one takes SAT's...
Posted by Duke
Twin Lakes, CO
Member since Jan 2008
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Posted on 5/25/15 at 5:38 pm to
You do take the SAT if you have dreams of Ivies. I actually did better on the SAT and that helped augment my scholarship monies coming out of HS. Too bad I wasted all that money. Would be nice to have it now as I plow through engineering school.
Posted by rootisback
Member since Mar 2014
3371 posts
Posted on 5/25/15 at 5:46 pm to
I believe in recent years, Ga Southern has been the fall back school for UGA. In state, HOPE scholarships and all that. Its true, look it up (as they say)
Posted by GaTiger77
Member since Nov 2013
953 posts
Posted on 5/25/15 at 5:47 pm to
Yeah and after freshman year, you let in every retard out there. Know a kid that transferred in with a 2.6 from Georgia Perimeter College which I'm not sure is even accredited.
Posted by Dawg in Beaumont
Athens
Member since Jan 2012
4494 posts
Posted on 5/25/15 at 6:03 pm to
It is true that transferring to UGA is a lot easier than getting in as a freshman but your numbers are way off. After 30 hours you need a 3.2 after 60 hours you need a 2.8. Georgia Perimeter is part of the state university system. It's certainly accredited.
Posted by deeprig9
Unincorporated Ozora, Georgia
Member since Sep 2012
63867 posts
Posted on 5/25/15 at 6:16 pm to
What's the "Nobody takes the SAT anymore" stuff? That's new to me. I googled it, and I don't see anything to indicate that a reputable college will let you in without having an SAT (or ACT) score.

Someone explain it to me like I'm an Auburn grad.
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