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re: 18-year-old girl might be the devil
Posted on 8/29/15 at 10:02 am to LanierSpots
Posted on 8/29/15 at 10:02 am to LanierSpots
I think you're right but I hope you're wrong.
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Posted on 8/29/15 at 10:46 am to BallstotheWesleyWall
A true psycho. I would encourage her to kill herself.
Posted on 8/29/15 at 10:46 am to BallstotheWesleyWall
Somebody needs to beat the brakes off this bitch.
Posted on 8/29/15 at 11:09 am to Kentucker
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I would encourage her to kill herself.
Not going to happen, narcissistic personalities are too self deluded to ever consider suicide.
Posted on 8/29/15 at 11:55 am to Cheese Grits
If I killed myself everytime some idiot on a message board said it I'd be on the news too. It's horrible and mentally unstable but jesus christ guys how easily persuaded and gullible are people these days?
Posted on 8/29/15 at 1:48 pm to olddawg26
It wasn't like she just up and convicted him to kill himself. He obviously had considered and attempted it before. At that point all it takes is a nudge to actually go through with it.
Posted on 8/29/15 at 1:55 pm to BallstotheWesleyWall
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Look at her face in the pictures. You can tell she has no remorse.
It certainly seems that way. Pretty evil.
Posted on 8/29/15 at 4:09 pm to kywildcatfanone
Sickening. If that were my brother, we'd have a "Night the Lights Went Out in Georgia" moment.
Posted on 8/29/15 at 4:16 pm to semotruman
I'm still utterly aghast at this story. Just coordinated a weekend to hangout with a couple of my sisters and still can't believe what I read about this story last night.
Posted on 8/29/15 at 5:35 pm to olddawg26
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If I killed myself everytime some idiot on a message board said it I'd be on the news too. It's horrible and mentally unstable but jesus christ guys how easily persuaded and gullible are people these days?
I agree with you 100%
Posted on 8/29/15 at 5:44 pm to LanierSpots
I mean, I agree that people should have more mental fortitude in general than to be offended by every sarcastic comment a random anonymous message board poster makes, but at the same time, this was a girl the deceased in question had had a relationship (in his mind) with, and she was definitely not texting him comments in sarcasm or in jest.
This was some other evil shite right here. And I am truly appalled.
This was some other evil shite right here. And I am truly appalled.
Posted on 8/29/15 at 9:08 pm to BallstotheWesleyWall
she also looks like a demon. i never knew what one looked like, but that'll do it for me.
Posted on 8/29/15 at 9:22 pm to BallstotheWesleyWall
Not Guilty.
First Amendment.
We have got to get a hold of ourselves.
First Amendment.
We have got to get a hold of ourselves.
Posted on 8/30/15 at 12:18 am to derSturm37
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Not Guilty.
First Amendment.
We have got to get a hold of ourselves
Back the frick up for a second.
First Amendment is not an absolute right. You can't just say anything you want, whenever you want to that's why we have slander/libel laws, laws that protect against fraud, etc.
Furthermore, the First Amendment protections apply only to the State and Federal governments. Since this is a judicial proceeding it does apply.
What the jury will have to decide is whether or not her actions were sufficient to trigger each element of the involuntary manslaughter statute that she is or will be indicted under.
"An unlawful killing that was unintentionally caused as the result of the defendants' wanton or reckless conduct"
First there must be an unlawful killing. Prosecution will argue that causing and contributing to the suicide of the victim satisfies that element of the crime. Defense will argue that her actions aren't sufficient to rise to the level of "unlawful killing". Prosecution has a strong position, unless the jury buys that the victim's suicide wasn't an "unlawful killing" from the meaning of the statute.
Second, as for the intent requirement, this is just a gap in the statute because lawmakers likely didn't contemplate situations like this occurring. However, the intent required is a sliding scale that can go down but not up. You can be indicted and found guilty acting intentionally under a statute that only requires recklessness.
Third, there must be causation. I haven't seen all the evidence here, but the victim seems to have continually abandoned suicide attempts in the past with the defendant constantly egging him on. But for the defendant's communications would the victim had followed through with his suicide? I don't know, that's up to the jury but seems like the prosecution has a strong argument here as well.
This is going to be an interesting case not only because of the moral reprehensibility of the defendant, but also because of the legal issues being regarding what constitutes an "unlawful killing." If convicted, there's probably going to be several appeals.
This post was edited on 8/30/15 at 12:19 am
Posted on 8/30/15 at 12:52 am to Volatile
I get that one can't cry "Fire!" in a crowded theatre. I get slander and libel. I do NOT believe that one can commit murder or manslaughter via a text message.
The State needs to stand down on this one.
To me this one is more akin to the abortion question than to "Fire!", slander, or libel. Abortion is ugly. We all agree. No one walks into an abortion clinic whistling. The question is whether or not The State has the right to make a pregnant female human stay pregnant until nature takes its course.
If it's illegal to TEXT a guy into committing the suicide he's been claiming he's been wanting to commit then what follows?
Am I liable if some fat bitch kills herself at 8pm on the day when at 4:45 pm I didn't hold the door open for her "long enough"?
For 15 years people have been holdng doors for other chicks. For 15 years people have been letting doors go in this fat bitch's face. I opt to let the door go on December 11 and 3 hours later she lays down on the railroad track. Are we going to crucify my callous arse?
LAW was NEVER meant to be this intrusive! The ancient Romans would be vomiting on empty stomachs if they could know! Government is NOT here to promote evolution! We have GOT to get a hold on ourselves! We're killing ourselves [softly] with inane intentions!!!!!
The State needs to stand down on this one.
To me this one is more akin to the abortion question than to "Fire!", slander, or libel. Abortion is ugly. We all agree. No one walks into an abortion clinic whistling. The question is whether or not The State has the right to make a pregnant female human stay pregnant until nature takes its course.
If it's illegal to TEXT a guy into committing the suicide he's been claiming he's been wanting to commit then what follows?
Am I liable if some fat bitch kills herself at 8pm on the day when at 4:45 pm I didn't hold the door open for her "long enough"?
For 15 years people have been holdng doors for other chicks. For 15 years people have been letting doors go in this fat bitch's face. I opt to let the door go on December 11 and 3 hours later she lays down on the railroad track. Are we going to crucify my callous arse?
LAW was NEVER meant to be this intrusive! The ancient Romans would be vomiting on empty stomachs if they could know! Government is NOT here to promote evolution! We have GOT to get a hold on ourselves! We're killing ourselves [softly] with inane intentions!!!!!
This post was edited on 8/30/15 at 1:01 am
Posted on 8/30/15 at 1:32 am to BallstotheWesleyWall
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And if carbon monoxide poisoning didn't work? "Try the bag or hanging," she told him.
Posted on 8/30/15 at 1:34 am to derSturm37
It has nothing to do with Abortion, and abortion has nothing to do with the first amendment.
You're vastly oversimplifying what she did. She helped him plan his own death, constantly encouraging him to go through with it, and it shows a pattern of behavior that points toward both her wanting him to off himself and doing everything short of putting a gun in his hand.
Again, no you're not, because that's a stupid analogy. Even if you yelled that she was worthless and she should die, that wouldn't rise to the level of encouragement and assistance of suicide that the defendant showed. Quit being obtuse.
What in the seven hells do the Romans have to do with anything? Our legal system isn't based on Roman law. That is the most nonsensical and baffling non-sequitur I've ever seen on this site.
Oy
You're vastly oversimplifying what she did. She helped him plan his own death, constantly encouraging him to go through with it, and it shows a pattern of behavior that points toward both her wanting him to off himself and doing everything short of putting a gun in his hand.
Again, no you're not, because that's a stupid analogy. Even if you yelled that she was worthless and she should die, that wouldn't rise to the level of encouragement and assistance of suicide that the defendant showed. Quit being obtuse.
What in the seven hells do the Romans have to do with anything? Our legal system isn't based on Roman law. That is the most nonsensical and baffling non-sequitur I've ever seen on this site.
Oy
Posted on 8/30/15 at 2:00 am to Volatile
If I text someone, "Go frick yourself" and he does so, and hereby fricks himself to death (with or without asphyxiation) then am I liable?
Posted on 8/30/15 at 2:11 am to derSturm37
No, because when it comes to something like this you have to at least be reckless or grossly negligent.
One, that's not an uncommon thing to tell someone. Reasonable people would understand that as a common expression not to be taken literally.
Two, one exchange of that nature doesn't establish a pattern of causation that a jury would accept.
Again, that doesn't apply to that succubus over there.
One, that's not an uncommon thing to tell someone. Reasonable people would understand that as a common expression not to be taken literally.
Two, one exchange of that nature doesn't establish a pattern of causation that a jury would accept.
Again, that doesn't apply to that succubus over there.
Posted on 8/30/15 at 2:24 am to Volatile
Succubus. I had an infatuation with her when I was 16.
I just want to KNOW that one can't commit homicide via text message. Social media is already too damned influencial. We're getting weaker every minute.
I don't care what the jury thinks. You can't kill someone with low amperage microwaves!
I just want to KNOW that one can't commit homicide via text message. Social media is already too damned influencial. We're getting weaker every minute.
I don't care what the jury thinks. You can't kill someone with low amperage microwaves!
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