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re: wiBO will be judged with Division Championships. Not W-L.

Posted on 6/6/17 at 9:04 pm to
Posted by reedus23
St. Louis
Member since Sep 2011
25485 posts
Posted on 6/6/17 at 9:04 pm to
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13 of the 34 players were linemen. You are saying that kind of attrition doesn't impact a teams long term recruiting strategy? We can agree to disagree.



Not when you're recruiting and coaching well at some point.
Posted by Arksulli
Fayetteville
Member since Aug 2014
25200 posts
Posted on 6/7/17 at 11:49 am to
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He made mistakes his first year. Not at all uncommon. In fact, poor first years are the norm.


First year as HC in the SEC tends to be a baptism by fire. Coaches that had great success right off the bat tend to land in situations where a team is loaded with talent but poorly coached, such as when Malzahn took over a stacked Auburn team.

You guys will have an idea of what you have in Odom after next season, good or bad.
Posted by SemperFi
St Louis
Member since Nov 2015
1519 posts
Posted on 6/8/17 at 1:28 pm to
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You guys will have an idea of what you have in Odom after next season, good or bad.


Agreed. If he can improve this year, outstanding. After all, it will be hard to be as bad as last year.

For starters, I'd be happy with just beating the teams we are supposed to beat............. Like an MTSU

Let's see what Odie brings this year



This post was edited on 6/8/17 at 1:34 pm
Posted by zatetic
Member since Nov 2015
5677 posts
Posted on 6/8/17 at 2:44 pm to
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The question will be, in the bigger picture, does wiBO move the program forward from what GP was able to accomplish or will he take the program back to mediocrity at best.


Do people think that Mizzou can move beyond what GP did? GP got us close a couple times. I could see moving up to tier 1 in about every conference but SEC is stacked at tier 1. I mean you need a lot of horses and money to win the conference in the SEC.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
111546 posts
Posted on 6/8/17 at 6:15 pm to
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Do people think that Mizzou can move beyond what GP did?


Not really. Being a game away from the National Championship a few times is probably our ceiling. Real talk. Football is a tougher game to break through to a National title game than basketball. Neither is easy.
Posted by MIZ_COU
I'm right here
Member since Oct 2013
13771 posts
Posted on 6/8/17 at 7:24 pm to
Football is tougher, more expensive, takes longer, and we are in a conference where winning the conference championship is usually as difficult as winning the national championship.

So I don't see why not.
Posted by zatetic
Member since Nov 2015
5677 posts
Posted on 6/8/17 at 10:24 pm to
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Real talk


Because of how the SEC is I believe Odom could improve Mizzou but it may not be reflected in a better W-L. I mean it would be a huge improvement (IMO) to go to the wire in the big games instead of the fourth quarter blow out. I would truthfully think we could be onto something big if that were to happen in the next year or two.

Really I will be happy with it if Odom can hold ground record wise with what Pinkel's last 8 or so years was, that is pretty good considering our competition in the SEC. Winning/tying the division 5 out of 8 years will probably never happen again. I mean that just doesn't normally happen for anyone except the blue bloods.

If Odom can do better than GP I will be ecstatic. It is just going to be very hard, almost unrealistic, to do that in the SEC, especially as long as Saban is here.
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