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What to do with Moore?

Posted on 10/17/16 at 8:00 am
Posted by JesusQuintana
St Louis
Member since Oct 2013
33366 posts
Posted on 10/17/16 at 8:00 am
Read this

And then there is this

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By then the Tigers hadn’t earned a first down. The first one came on their next series, their eighth possession overall. After two long runs by Ish Witter, Lock unloaded a pass for tight end Sean Culkin, who ran an out route to the left sideline. Wilson was covering outside receiver J’Mon Moore along the sideline but peeled off Moore and snatched Lock’s throw. Like Tabor just 2:11 earlier, he raced to the end zone. It appeared Moore was supposed to clear space along the sideline for Culkin to catch the pass but Wilson squeezed past the wideout to snag the throw. "I’m not going to throw anyone under the bus or say anything," Lock said. "I’ve got to take care of the ball."


Saw a replay of that pick and it was totally on Moore. He knew he wasn't getting the ball. He was pouting and didn't put any effort into the route he was supposed to run. I don't see how the coaches can allow this effort and then look at the rest of the team and ask them to play hard.

Also look at the bullshite he displayed at the end of the first half vs LSU.

He's talented, but he's the same immature malcontent he's always been and he completely folds when things aren't going well. He's a cancer that should have been cut out before the season.
This post was edited on 10/17/16 at 8:06 am
Posted by Wtodd
Tampa, FL
Member since Oct 2013
67488 posts
Posted on 10/17/16 at 8:14 am to
Get some lotion for those rock hard hands & some baby powder for his rash.
Posted by Tiger97
Member since Feb 2015
438 posts
Posted on 10/17/16 at 8:16 am to
Was he one of the offensive players that Wilson talked about laughing and joking around in the 4th quarter?

Have to admit he was the first player I thought of when I read that quote.
Posted by reedus23
St. Louis
Member since Sep 2011
25485 posts
Posted on 10/17/16 at 8:21 am to
If we don't have better on the bench one really has to question our recruiting
Posted by JesusQuintana
St Louis
Member since Oct 2013
33366 posts
Posted on 10/17/16 at 8:33 am to
It's not even about being better. It's about a guy who is going to buy in, do his job and play hard.

Moore is pretty talented. I don't doubt that, he just lacks pretty much everything else requisite to being a good football player.

I just wish he was a SR. Maybe someone can convince him to leave early for the draft or he does is all a favor and becomes a graduate transfer.
This post was edited on 10/17/16 at 8:35 am
Posted by surgicalvenom
Omaha
Member since Jan 2014
5368 posts
Posted on 10/17/16 at 8:42 am to
We have talent at WR, but Pinkel fricked up by taking Hill away from WR coach and making him QB coach where he did nothing.

Hill is back with WRs but it will take a bit. This whole thing is a damn mess and embarrassing. Recruiting is shite, so how does it build to get better? I guess just grit my teeth for 3 years until the AD makes some changes.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
111546 posts
Posted on 10/17/16 at 8:52 am to
quote:

If we don't have better on the bench one really has to question

I question everything at this point.

Our recruiting
Our current players
Our current coaches
Our past coaches
Our current AD
Our past two ADs
Our boosters
Our fans
Our university system as a whole

This isn't a response to two blowout losses. It's that our entire athletic department seems unmoored. I hope Sterk is Merlin and St. Gregory Thaumaturgus combined. He's going to need to be.
Posted by Literalist
Minnesota
Member since Oct 2014
3478 posts
Posted on 10/17/16 at 8:56 am to
What to do? Fer Chrissakes, you sit his arse and tell him, "You apparently don't have the right attitude to play on this team."

And that goes for several of the players.

You bring in the number two and say, "Let's see what you can do." If needed, you bring in #3...Then the tallest trombone player from marching Mizzou.

This is simply a life lesson. If you don't cut it, no matter the job, we'll try someone else.

When I read that BO had them circle-up and hold hands, I realized he has no fricking clue. Next, they'll sing "We shall overcome" at half time.

Time for tough love. Holding hands...indeed.
Posted by Arksulli
Fayetteville
Member since Aug 2014
25200 posts
Posted on 10/17/16 at 9:04 am to
quote:

This is simply a life lesson. If you don't cut it, no matter the job, we'll try someone else.



Sometimes the only way to reach a player is to sit him on the bench and let him stew in knowing someone else has his spot.
Posted by Wtodd
Tampa, FL
Member since Oct 2013
67488 posts
Posted on 10/17/16 at 9:08 am to
quote:

Sometimes the only way to reach a player is to sit him on the bench and let him stew in knowing someone else has his spot.

Or spank him and make him stand in the corner
Posted by Arksulli
Fayetteville
Member since Aug 2014
25200 posts
Posted on 10/17/16 at 9:13 am to
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Or spank him and make him stand in the corne


Kinky!
Posted by notsince98
KC, MO
Member since Oct 2012
18005 posts
Posted on 10/17/16 at 9:41 am to
mubobby just dropped some bombs over on TB about J'mon. Said J'mon is a total punk during practices, too. He doesn't run his routes. He doesn't listen to coaches. He picks fights. Etc. mubobby said he doesn't understand why the coaches are refusing to address the problem.
Posted by Stir of Echoes
SD, LA, OC, and the Inland Empire.
Member since Feb 2015
1052 posts
Posted on 10/17/16 at 9:54 am to
This program is completely FUBAR'd.

Sadly, I think we'll just be waiting this mess out and hoping for the best on the other side.
Posted by Literalist
Minnesota
Member since Oct 2014
3478 posts
Posted on 10/17/16 at 10:04 am to
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mubobby said he doesn't understand why the coaches are refusing to address the problem.


From all indications, it starts with BO. It appears he's trying to be a positive, rah-rah, "I'm part of the team" guy.

When, in my humble opinion, he should be a hard-nosed disciplinarian who doesn't excuse away piss poor performance. He's a frickin' SEC football coach, not an advisor for the Golden Girls. No more arm-in-arm sensitivity crap, Barry! Get on their asses, starting with Moore, and expect 100% from all the players. Instead of the lukewarm pressers, time to say, "I'm damned disappointed with the play and we're going to start searching the bench for players who want to win."

I fear we're seeing another Kim Anderson.
This post was edited on 10/17/16 at 10:06 am
Posted by surgicalvenom
Omaha
Member since Jan 2014
5368 posts
Posted on 10/17/16 at 10:24 am to
Damnit JQ, you told me BO was a star in the making, a guy who would fix the culture. Whats up with the hand holding and allowing a player to piss on the team?
Posted by notsince98
KC, MO
Member since Oct 2012
18005 posts
Posted on 10/17/16 at 10:25 am to
Kim has kept his kids under control.
Posted by JesusQuintana
St Louis
Member since Oct 2013
33366 posts
Posted on 10/17/16 at 10:54 am to
If you want an honest opinion...I think they are scared of him so to speak.

The absolute last thing they want is to dredge up any of the shite from last year and they fear (maybe know) that if they come down on Moore he'll fight back with "they are only doing this to me because I was a leader of the protest last year"

I don't know. It's the only thing so can think of.

I haven't bailed on BO yet, but he's certainly looking every bit the part of a rookie coach.
Posted by Literalist
Minnesota
Member since Oct 2014
3478 posts
Posted on 10/17/16 at 11:02 am to
quote:

Kim has kept his kids under control


Very true. I was referring to team success.
Posted by Mizzou59
Mid-MO
Member since May 2016
397 posts
Posted on 10/17/16 at 11:18 am to
I've been saying this ever since the protests. J'Mon is a cancer to the team. Has he done anything good since he stepped on campus? He's started a protest that put us back 20 years, drops 75% of passes thrown to him, got in a fight last week vs. LSU, doesn't seem to care about anyone except himself, and quits on the team when things don't go his way. Not to generalize, but this is why I think WR is one of the most invaluable positions on the field. Most WR's are divas like this guy and OBJ, and are only there to make an arse out of themselves and embarrass the team.
Posted by Mizzou59
Mid-MO
Member since May 2016
397 posts
Posted on 10/17/16 at 11:21 am to
quote:

f you want an honest opinion...I think they are scared of him so to speak.

The absolute last thing they want is to dredge up any of the shite from last year and they fear (maybe know) that if they come down on Moore he'll fight back with "they are only doing this to me because I was a leader of the protest last year"


I can't agree more. He just wants all the attention and spotlight on himself. He'll use the protests as a defense mechanism to put himself above the team. The sad part is that there are so many 18-22 year old kids who will believe anything and follow his lead.
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