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re: What to do with Moore?

Posted on 10/17/16 at 3:55 pm to
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
111496 posts
Posted on 10/17/16 at 3:55 pm to
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But to be for sure...my company's fiscal year ends in 2 weeks. At that time I will make my annual donation. I will ask for the numbers on black apps and enrollment and start a thread on the results. Fair enough?



Sounds good. To be fair, I think the hand-wringing over enrollment was overwrought. And though the decline in applications was significant statistically, it amounted to less than 100 fewer black student applications.
Posted by Mizz-SEC
Inbred Huntin' In The SEC
Member since Jun 2013
19232 posts
Posted on 10/17/16 at 4:06 pm to
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The absolute last thing they want is to dredge up any of the shite from last year and they fear (maybe know) that if they come down on Moore he'll fight back with "they are only doing this to me because I was a leader of the protest last year"


With a punk arse like Moore all they'd have to do is cut his reps back and he'll do the rest. He'll do or say something to slit his own throat and we'll be done with him.

The fact that Terry Beckner had to get up in his face says all you need to know.

Excise the cancer and move on.
Posted by Mizz-SEC
Inbred Huntin' In The SEC
Member since Jun 2013
19232 posts
Posted on 10/17/16 at 4:14 pm to
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I've been saying this ever since the protests. J'Mon is a cancer to the team. Has he done anything good since he stepped on campus? He's started a protest that put us back 20 years, drops 75% of passes thrown to him, got in a fight last week vs. LSU, doesn't seem to care about anyone except himself, and quits on the team when things don't go his way. Not to generalize, but this is why I think WR is one of the most invaluable positions on the field. Most WR's are divas like this guy and OBJ, and are only there to make an arse out of themselves and embarrass the team.


Hear, hear! I'd rather have one L'Danianian Washington or Bud Sasser over a dozen J'mon Moore's.

The problem with our wide receiver corps is toughness. They're too big of pussies to fight through press coverage and make plays. frick 'em. wiBO needs to wise up fast.
Posted by reedus23
St. Louis
Member since Sep 2011
25485 posts
Posted on 10/17/16 at 10:38 pm to
They should have kept Hilton on offense. Frankly, he struggles on defense and showed promise last year on offense. Seen him lose his jock and fall on his arse more than once. Seen him go to tackle an RB and bounce off of him like a gnat. Seen him drop sure INT's.

The current crop just can't even get themselves open, much less catch the ball. Yep, I'd sit Moore for the apparent attitude problems but I'd probably also sit half the WR's for the lack of productivity.
Posted by surgicalvenom
Omaha
Member since Jan 2014
5361 posts
Posted on 10/18/16 at 8:07 am to
You have to give Hill time to get the wide receivers skill level back to where it should be. Remember Pinkel made him QB coach and Washington took over the WRs. And we almost immediately lost those hard working hard blocking wide receivers. I am confident with Hill back at WR coach, they will get much better.

And also could Ford please, please go back to coaching the DBs? His DBs could cover, get interceptions and tackle in space. Why is he coaching RBs?
This post was edited on 10/18/16 at 8:11 am
Posted by stlslick
St.Louis,Mo
Member since Nov 2012
14054 posts
Posted on 10/18/16 at 12:36 pm to
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mubobby just dropped some bombs over on TB about J'mon. Said J'mon is a total punk during practices, too. He doesn't run his routes. He doesn't listen to coaches. He picks fights. Etc. mubobby said he doesn't understand why the coaches are refusing to address the problem.



LOL

MUBobby is a tard, who looks at all the message boards and then steals shite to try and act like he knows things,

His dumbass got run form StlToday, we caught him in so many lies, or tried to claim shite as inside info, yet the same stuff was posted weeks earlier by another person as factual info, no rumor shite.

The dumbing down of Tigerboard began when those morons thought MUBobby knows stuff.

If you post MUBobby stuff, please pull a pillow tightly over ur head and hold real tight.
Posted by JesusQuintana
St Louis
Member since Oct 2013
33366 posts
Posted on 10/18/16 at 1:00 pm to
I can't speak to STLtoday forums, but I've seen him several times post recruiting info before it was ever available anywhere.

He's either legit, or a really good guesser.
Posted by MIZ_COU
I'm right here
Member since Oct 2013
13771 posts
Posted on 10/18/16 at 2:10 pm to
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If you post MUBobby stuff, please pull a pillow tightly over ur head and hold real tight.
that doesn't work. My brother and I tried as hard as we could to see if we could make it work. You can breath right threw it.

and it doesn't matter if moobobby is correct. jamon is a punk arse during the game. If the coaches don't get control of it then they are not tough enough to make it in this conference (or any P5 conference)
Posted by Wtodd
Tampa, FL
Member since Oct 2013
67482 posts
Posted on 10/19/16 at 6:18 am to
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The problem with our wide receiver corps is toughness. They're too big of pussies to fight through press coverage and make plays.

This!! But add in looking the ball into their hands AND THEN RUN WITH IT!!!!
Posted by reedus23
St. Louis
Member since Sep 2011
25485 posts
Posted on 10/19/16 at 8:07 am to
Add in the fact they can't get separation and get open
Posted by Athos
Member since Sep 2016
11878 posts
Posted on 10/19/16 at 10:29 am to
Yikes. I wasn't even paying attention to the game at that point so I likely missed that then.

Moore is a conundrum, but one easily solved. Quite frankly, he isn't talented enough to overcome:

1. Very poor catch technique and butter fingers
2. Lazy routes
3. Excessive pouting when he isn't getting the ball
4. Lazy blocking

I miss the days of our WR trio in 2013. Lucas, DGB, LdWash. They LOVED to block. Lucas especially. Lucas pancaked DBs and even LBs. Those WR trio was as unselfish as they come. Go figure our offense usually worked at breakneck pace and usually successful.

Now we have guys like Moore who don't do the little things, on top of being physically non-intimidating. Our WR corps are composed of a bunch of slender guys.

Which is why I keep advocating more involvement with the big TEs who have long arms and are crazy tall.

I think the offense would honestly be better if Lock STOPPED looking to Moore for the first read, second read, maybe even third read. Use him as a decoy if he doesn't pout. I dunno. He seems selfish and petty, so that may not work.

In any event, the WR scheme also needs to be improved. That Baylor system of one or two WRs just staying at the line as decoys... more intelligent Ds seem to know exactly where the ball is going.
Posted by BurgTiger
Member since Feb 2014
2763 posts
Posted on 10/19/16 at 10:53 am to
Here is what what we have learned by trying to transition to this Baylorish O:
1. If you do not have a RB than can break tackles it hampers it. Look at all Baylor's stud quick but strong RB's for the past 5 years. Ish is death to this system.

2. If you do not have a RB who can be a threat you better have a QB that can be a threat to freeze the LB's from fleeing out on the quick pass. Lock is not that. Lock can thrive in this system if you have an explosive RB, but if you have an Ish it will fail.

3. Your WR's need to be able to block downfield to give your slot and RB screen game a chance. We do not have that ability right now. Therefore the larger DB's are dominating our WR's off the line and their LB's are crashing the mesh point and focusing on the RB.

4. It's very possible that we can recruit to this system, but without the Jeff Thomas type threats we are running it on 3 tires which will murder our own defense.
Posted by notsince98
KC, MO
Member since Oct 2012
17954 posts
Posted on 10/20/16 at 7:05 am to
mubobby actually has contacts in the AD and within the staff. he gets to attend practices and team activities.

if you want legit sources, mubobby is a good one.
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