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Posted on 6/19/15 at 12:51 pm to TbirdSpur2010
Kauffman Stadium is one the best in MLB since the renovation. Great park to watch a game in
Posted on 6/19/15 at 1:44 pm to everytrueson
So by MLB cutting 65 million votes for Royals players from the AllStar game balloting,it puts a couple questions in mind.
1. Was this audit of votes being canvassed for "fraud" across the board? Was it just Royals players being focused on or the entire gammot of votes Across baseball?
2. Is this a new precedence from MLB to go back on something and manipulate it if it doesn't work out like you thought it would after almost completing the task?
1. Was this audit of votes being canvassed for "fraud" across the board? Was it just Royals players being focused on or the entire gammot of votes Across baseball?
2. Is this a new precedence from MLB to go back on something and manipulate it if it doesn't work out like you thought it would after almost completing the task?
Posted on 6/19/15 at 5:22 pm to jafo
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Oh and it's Perez, not Pear-ez you freakin FS-1 idiots!
Jon Miller used to always pronounce that name the same way.Glad he's not doing Sunday night games on ESPN anymore.
Posted on 6/19/15 at 5:23 pm to everytrueson
Who were the announcers?
Posted on 6/19/15 at 5:34 pm to kilo
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Kauffman Stadium is one the best in MLB since the renovation. Great park to watch a game in
I agree. Gonna miss going to games there.
Posted on 6/19/15 at 10:57 pm to TbirdSpur2010
Got jumped by those massachusetts cretins tonight 
Posted on 6/20/15 at 6:02 am to jafo
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2. Is this a new precedence from MLB to go back on something and manipulate it if it doesn't work out like you thought it would after almost completing the task?
No. They were talking on sports talk radio yesterday that at some time in the 50's MLB had to step in and reverse a ballot stuffing by Cincinnati (I think) to place Willie Mays and Hank Aaron on the team in place of two scrubs voted in.
It may have been the first time a fan vote was tried.
MLB needs to answer your questions and those like it.
Posted on 6/20/15 at 9:04 am to Mizz-SEC
I found an better more clear article on this that answers those questions.
For one, they have been culling fraudulent ballots all along. It wasn't one big swoop, or at least thats what MLB is saying and I kind of believe that. I think what I and others took away from some headlines was they all of a sudden culled out 65 million votes shortly after Infante took over in voting. Not etirely accurate. It's what they have culled out up to date.
Two, the first statement cancels out my other question. It's going through it's normal process if idiot reporters can keep themselves from jumping to conclusions and puting skewed headlines out there.
For one, they have been culling fraudulent ballots all along. It wasn't one big swoop, or at least thats what MLB is saying and I kind of believe that. I think what I and others took away from some headlines was they all of a sudden culled out 65 million votes shortly after Infante took over in voting. Not etirely accurate. It's what they have culled out up to date.
Two, the first statement cancels out my other question. It's going through it's normal process if idiot reporters can keep themselves from jumping to conclusions and puting skewed headlines out there.
Posted on 6/20/15 at 9:10 am to CRDNLSCHMCPSN11
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Who were the announcers?
I don't recall, but avoiding any baseball on FX1 will be considered before sitting through another entire game of listening to commentators inaccurate information( I think everyone but those two morons new Vetura had been put on the DL before that game, but they still talked about him pitching the next game), pronunciation problems and generally puting the home team down for voting for your home team players for the all star game.
Posted on 6/20/15 at 3:08 pm to jafo
I haven't seen much MLB on Fox Sports One lately.Is Rose any good as an analyst?You didn't vote for Infante or Rios, did you?
Posted on 6/20/15 at 8:40 pm to TbirdSpur2010
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Kauffman Stadium is one the best in MLB since the renovation. Great park to watch a game in
I agree. Gonna miss going to games there.
Are you moving out of Missouri???
Posted on 6/20/15 at 8:41 pm to jafo
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So by MLB cutting 65 million votes for Royals players from the AllStar game balloting,it puts a couple questions in mind.
1. Was this audit of votes being canvassed for "fraud" across the board? Was it just Royals players being focused on or the entire gammot of votes Across baseball?
2. Is this a new precedence from MLB to go back on something and manipulate it if it doesn't work out like you thought it would after almost completing the task?
Um what's going on, my first time hearing of this. So the Royals might not get all those starters??
Posted on 6/20/15 at 10:32 pm to bayou2003
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Are you moving out of Missouri???
Yeah, I'm separating from the military and starting a job in San Antonio in a couple weeks. SA is where I wanna be, but I did love getting to go to the K
Wifey will still be here in MO for another few months until her service commitment is up, though.
This post was edited on 6/20/15 at 10:33 pm
Posted on 6/21/15 at 11:14 am to CRDNLSCHMCPSN11
Can't speak for PR analysis much. Grew up watching PR play. Hell of a player.
As var as the voting. Here is how I have voted.
Catcher, Salvy Perez
1st base, Hosmer
2nd base, Dozier
3rd base, Moose
SS, Escobar
Outfield, Cain, Gordon, Trout and Batista.
DH, Cruz and Morales.
Before all the BS and crying going on, DH was strictly Cruz, outfield was Batista, 2nd base was Dozier. Since a bunch of whiny arse bitches want to cry, I've been voting for Infante at 2nd and Morales at DH. I'm done voting and letting it ride.
No one has noticed Infante is about to break out of his slump. Before last night, he's went 9 for 19 and got two hits last night and made two or three great plays at second. It's what I've argued with people. All players go through slumps.
Rios, he was off to a great start this year until his broken finger. But no, no votes this year from this guy.
I think you can make an argument for most of those Royals I voted for, just as much as you could make an argument for some of those players like Cabrera. I seen a play by Hosmer last night that I know for a fact Cabrera couldn;t make. Cabrera may have the advantage in hitting for power, but Hoz has the fielding advantage. It's really a toss up. I don't think one deserves it more than the other. It's just the way the voting goes. Maybe it's just that Hosmer has better fans.
As var as the voting. Here is how I have voted.
Catcher, Salvy Perez
1st base, Hosmer
2nd base, Dozier
3rd base, Moose
SS, Escobar
Outfield, Cain, Gordon, Trout and Batista.
DH, Cruz and Morales.
Before all the BS and crying going on, DH was strictly Cruz, outfield was Batista, 2nd base was Dozier. Since a bunch of whiny arse bitches want to cry, I've been voting for Infante at 2nd and Morales at DH. I'm done voting and letting it ride.
No one has noticed Infante is about to break out of his slump. Before last night, he's went 9 for 19 and got two hits last night and made two or three great plays at second. It's what I've argued with people. All players go through slumps.
Rios, he was off to a great start this year until his broken finger. But no, no votes this year from this guy.
I think you can make an argument for most of those Royals I voted for, just as much as you could make an argument for some of those players like Cabrera. I seen a play by Hosmer last night that I know for a fact Cabrera couldn;t make. Cabrera may have the advantage in hitting for power, but Hoz has the fielding advantage. It's really a toss up. I don't think one deserves it more than the other. It's just the way the voting goes. Maybe it's just that Hosmer has better fans.
Posted on 6/21/15 at 11:26 am to bayou2003
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Um what's going on, my first time hearing of this. So the Royals might not get all those starters??
You've heard all the crying going on by a lot of reporters about the Royals having 8 players leading in the all star balloting for starting spots right?
Well, these reporters came out last week saying that MLB was going to cull 65 million votes because of fraud. Now, if you look at that statement, it would lead you to believe they were dumping 65 million votes then or about to. What they didn't say was that MLB had been culling votes all along and it's up to 65 million. Craptastic reporting. That said, those Royals still lead in those respective positions for now. There won't be 65 million additional votes canceled. So the voting is what it is right now.
The media doesn't understand that when they put out half truth information like that, it's like dumping gasoline on a fire. It just makes Royals fans more resilient and pushes them into voting that much more. They need to let it die and let the outcome be the outcome and move on. There may have been a different selection lead at other positions, but when you take a fan base and make them feel like it's them against the world, that creates a lot of motivation to vote even more.
The Royals are getting ready to pay out some hefty bonuses to these players if they are selected. I think Infante is getting a 550,000 dollar bonus for making the all star game. Other players are getting upwards of 50 to 70 thousand each. I think Salvy was even higher than Infantes. So the Royals are setting themselves for a big payday, players that is.
Posted on 6/22/15 at 6:06 pm to jafo
ESPN claimed today there is evidence Rose bet on MLB games as a player.Before he said he only bet while a manager.
I have always voted who I perceived to be the most deserving of an All Star whether they played on my team or not.It's interesting when I lived out there several years the Royals didnt' have anyone worthy of an All Star.Now they have several players who will make the team.
I have always voted who I perceived to be the most deserving of an All Star whether they played on my team or not.It's interesting when I lived out there several years the Royals didnt' have anyone worthy of an All Star.Now they have several players who will make the team.
Posted on 6/22/15 at 8:17 pm to CRDNLSCHMCPSN11
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ESPN claimed today there is evidence Rose bet on MLB games as a player.Before he said he only bet while a manager.
Oh, I wish they'd just leave PR alone. How long ago was all this? Someone needs to knock ESPN down a notch or two. They just seem to try to dig up shite about people. They and MLB just needs to move on. They only want to look at one side of it. Pete was an electric player, he made the mistake many others have but they just didn't get caught.
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I have always voted who I perceived to be the most deserving of an All Star whether they played on my team or not.It's interesting when I lived out there several years the Royals didnt' have anyone worthy of an All Star.Now they have several players who will make the team.
Yeh but in general, people are going to vote also on the players who get shoved in their face too. Not that those players don't deserve a shot, they just get the publicity. Cabrera took over the lead for 1st base now. So everyone can be happy. He still can't touch Hoz's fielding abilities. I think either one could deserve it. Both are good at their strengths, Hoz at fielding and Cabrera at batting. Cabrera is the popular choice among reporters and many fans, and deservingly so. I'm good with either one, though I'm biased towards Hoz.
It's the beauty of fan voting. Voting for who YOU perceive to be most deserving. There has been such a drought for Royals fans, who really didn't see this coming? Many people don't or never realized what a great baseball town K.C. really is. It's just been laying dormant. When I was growing up, it was just accepted that the Chiefs suck and the Royals were a competitive team. They reached two WS when I was growing up.
Royals fans don't forget either. It still chaps a lot of Royals fans that Billy Butler was left out of the home run derby when K.C. hosted the All Star game. They are truly a rabid fan base. It comes from many years of being a Chiefs fan and all the rivalries in the AFC west, especially with Oakland. It didn't surprise me that Royals fans wouldn't let it go either. When Oakland comes back, it won't be a warm welcome if Lawrie is still with them. Wait and see. The Chiefs and Raiders rivalry has kind of withered but now we have the A's and the Royals to take it's place, and I'm looking forward to attending some of those games if not the whole series.
All this plays into the mindset of Royals fans. It's just a few more reasons why they have turned out in masses to vote this team into the All Star game. It's the appreciation of the fans for the post season run this team made last year. That post season was like finding an oasis in the desert. It's not always just about the numbers.
Posted on 6/23/15 at 2:22 pm to TbirdSpur2010
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Yeah, I'm separating from the military and starting a job in San Antonio in a couple weeks. SA is where I wanna be, but I did love getting to go to the K
Wifey will still be here in MO for another few months until her service commitment is up, though.
Wow had no idea you were up here for Military. Thank yall for yalls service.
Posted on 6/23/15 at 2:25 pm to jafo
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You've heard all the crying going on by a lot of reporters about the Royals having 8 players leading in the all star balloting for starting spots right?
Yeah, got tired of hearing about how other players have a better stat. Then they mention a certain Royals player's name that might start and they say it in amazement as if he sucks, pisses me off.
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