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re: SEMO coach Steve Bieser named baseball coach
Posted on 7/2/16 at 3:55 pm to JesusQuintana
Posted on 7/2/16 at 3:55 pm to JesusQuintana
If I used the word demands, my apologies. That would have been a bad choice of words. However, if he expressed his visions for the program and they didn't coincide with MR's visions, yeah, I would suspect he would walk out of the interview pretty much knowing he wasn't a good fit.
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Posted on 7/2/16 at 4:04 pm to reedus23
MR said yesterday that the assistant coach salary pool is expected to be in the middle of the SEC. Football under GP tended to be mid conference in both SEC and Big 12.
Posted on 7/2/16 at 4:05 pm to TheCheshireHog
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300k would be last in the SEC assuming Bama is paying Geoff more.
If Van Horn were to retire today and your AD hired a Bieser for $300k (last in the SEC), how would most Arky fans feel about it? Would they have expected the AD to go after a bigger name even if it meant spending more or do you think they would be happy with it? Truly curious if our level of acceptance is just lower than at other Universities or some people's (mine included) expectations are too high.
Every single person I've spoken to who is more than just a casual fan feels the same way. It's a fine hire. Bieser is a solid baseball mind. He's a good coach/leader. He's a good guy. He wasn't the right hire if you were looking to grow the program and not just win but create interest at the same time.
Posted on 7/2/16 at 4:08 pm to wubilli
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MR said yesterday that the assistant coach salary pool is expected to be in the middle of the SEC. Football under GP tended to be mid conference in both SEC and Big 12.
I probably could have written that check. The check I can't write is for a new stadium/facilities and the guys that can write that check are going to need some major winning over right now. I do give credit to Bieser for recognizing this and talking about establishing relationships with alumni.
Posted on 7/2/16 at 4:25 pm to JesusQuintana
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I've seen nothing that says he's bringing his entire SEMO staff. He said in the PC that he had a lot of people that wanted on the staff and he was reviewing them.
Just played the whole thing for my son. He didn't say it was his SEMO staff but he did say he already had his staff picked, which would suggest it's some, if not all, of his guys from SEMO. He then said he's gotten lots of applications and will review them to make sure his current staff is the right staff.
Posted on 7/2/16 at 5:10 pm to reedus23
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If Van Horn were to retire today and your AD hired a Bieser for $300k (last in the SEC), how would most Arky fans feel about it?
They would be furious in that situation. I don't think we can hire whoever we want but most of our fans would expect us to make a splash hire. That probably wouldn't happen but I think we could easily lure someone away from a successful lower BCS to mid-level school.
Posted on 7/2/16 at 7:13 pm to reedus23
But if you win, you will create interest.
Face it. Baseball is not big enough here to create the kind of buzz you are talking about. It's probably not even the 3rd most popular sport on campus.
Now if he wins it could gain some traction. Baseball had better support at one time, but the simple fact of the matter is that the university does not support it financially and the fans don't show up for games.
If Mizzou wants to be players in baseball they need to make a serious investment in facilities. Bieser is a good coach. He's won everywhere and he can do the same here if he has the backing.
Casual fans don't know who any of these guys are, but if they start winning ball games then they'll get behind the program better than they do now.
Face it. Baseball is not big enough here to create the kind of buzz you are talking about. It's probably not even the 3rd most popular sport on campus.
Now if he wins it could gain some traction. Baseball had better support at one time, but the simple fact of the matter is that the university does not support it financially and the fans don't show up for games.
If Mizzou wants to be players in baseball they need to make a serious investment in facilities. Bieser is a good coach. He's won everywhere and he can do the same here if he has the backing.
Casual fans don't know who any of these guys are, but if they start winning ball games then they'll get behind the program better than they do now.
Posted on 7/2/16 at 7:32 pm to JesusQuintana
Baseball is pretty far down the list as Mizzou. Sports that have much higher fan intrest would be football, Men's Hoops, Women's Hoops, Volleyball, Softball, & Wrestling.
Posted on 7/3/16 at 10:03 am to reedus23
Missouri had the opportunity to make a home run hire and did not. The smart choice was to 'Hire the resume' and pay the money and have the results everyone wants. I have watched the LSU baseball program grow by hiring the best available and in our competitive conference we call the SEC, so has everyone else.
I don't see the upside with this hire every one here everyone was looking for but I do wish Missouri baseball the best and hope I am wrong in my assessment.
I don't see the upside with this hire every one here everyone was looking for but I do wish Missouri baseball the best and hope I am wrong in my assessment.
Posted on 7/3/16 at 10:57 am to JesusQuintana
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If Mizzou wants to be players in baseball they need to make a serious investment in facilities.
Which they had a much better chance of doing with another candidate.
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Bieser is a good coach.
Yes he is.
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But if you win, you will create interest.
I'm not saying that it would have happened, but you don't think a Max Scherzer Night At the Ballpark wouldn't draw people right away. Once you get the fans there for an event like that, show them a good time, and maybe a fraction of them will come back because they enjoyed the experience.
Posted on 7/3/16 at 1:12 pm to reedus23
Why couldn't Mizzou do a Max Scherzer Night with this coach?
Posted on 7/3/16 at 8:55 pm to wubilli
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Why couldn't Mizzou do a Max Scherzer Night with this coach?
Because they didn't hire the coach he endorsed and knows. I suppose it's a possibility. Just not as likely. And I don't mean just a Scherzer Night. I'm talking about support in general from big time names. He'll still support Mizzou but it would have been at a different level.
ETA-Bieser even recognized this, to his credit, and talked about establishing relationships with Mizzou alumni in the MLB. The obvious difference being one already had existing relationships the other has to establish them first.
This post was edited on 7/3/16 at 8:58 pm
Posted on 7/5/16 at 3:57 pm to the808bass
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This sounds like we chose Beiser over Vitello?
Yes, after Bieser interviewed, there was no other choice. His interview incredibly well, and they were sold as soon as it was over. Vitello had ZERO shot once Bieser sat down and began to talk and answer questions.
Posted on 7/5/16 at 7:44 pm to stlslick
For some reason I'm not surprised one bit.
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