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re: Missouri players that will be drafted Thursday

Posted on 4/28/15 at 9:31 am to
Posted by Koch Snowflake
Columbia, MO
Member since Oct 2013
129 posts
Posted on 4/28/15 at 9:31 am to
It doesn't matter if it is legal or not if your employer deems it a banned substance. Those players can smoke all they want but if the NFL busts them, they still lose their jobs.
Posted by outlawjoseywales
Memphis, TN
Member since Sep 2012
1835 posts
Posted on 4/28/15 at 9:57 am to
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It doesn't matter if it is legal or not if your employer deems it a banned substance. Those players can smoke all they want but if the NFL busts them, they still lose their jobs


This will be the next big legal fight in the courts. If the NFL, MLB, NHL, NBA who say it is an illegal substance for their employees sell tickets to those law abiding citizens who do partake in the weed??
Posted by reedus23
St. Louis
Member since Sep 2011
25485 posts
Posted on 4/28/15 at 10:00 am to
It's not a question of legal/illegal. It's a being a dumb arse that will cause him to drop some. It's not the end of the world, but this, plus his failed drug test in college, plus his toe, have cost him millions I'm sure.

It's kind of like having a fake girlfriend and making up stories about it. Nothing illegal but you're a dumbass and your dumbassery dropped you from the 1st round to the 2nd round.

As for the NFL, sure they can make more restrictive rules if they want. The simple answer is, if you don't like their rules, don't play in the NFL. Just like any other employer. They already have all kinds of banned substances that are otherwise legal to buy and use.
Posted by outlawjoseywales
Memphis, TN
Member since Sep 2012
1835 posts
Posted on 4/28/15 at 10:11 am to
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As for the NFL, sure they can make more restrictive rules if they want. The simple answer is, if you don't like their rules, don't play in the NFL. Just like any other employer. They already have all kinds of banned substances that are otherwise legal to buy and use.


This is true but the pot movement is getting strong. I do not partake but many of my friends do. They have money and would tell the sports leagues to go frak themselves. Their weed is more important. I also know some St. Louis and Memphis police and they have told me they have no problem with weed being legal. It mellows people out. They need more mellow people in the world.
Posted by reedus23
St. Louis
Member since Sep 2011
25485 posts
Posted on 4/28/15 at 10:20 am to
I don't disagree with anything you say but none of that changes the fact that it is what it is at this point. Will the NFL take it off their banned list? Who knows. I kind of doubt it but anything is possible. If anything, I see them easing up on punishments for violations if that's all it is.

Regardless, when it comes to Ray, like I said, he'll drop more because he has poor judgment than because of the citation itself.
Posted by Wtodd
Tampa, FL
Member since Oct 2013
67482 posts
Posted on 4/28/15 at 10:20 am to
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Their weed is more important

I think we found the problem
quote:

They need more mellow people in the world.

Agree with this.
Posted by pauliebleaker
Chesterfield
Member since Jul 2014
1819 posts
Posted on 4/28/15 at 12:11 pm to
I agree Reeedus. I could care less about the joint but he could have gone as high as 5 but now top 20 will be good.
Posted by Kcprogguitar
Kansas City
Member since Oct 2014
887 posts
Posted on 4/28/15 at 6:43 pm to
Shows poor judgement and a disregard for a potential employer. Who'll be paying dearly to take a chance on him.

Don't care if you think weed should be legalized. I personally don't care either way. Been there, done that, grew up.

It's illegal. Tired of all the man/children getting passes because they play football or whatever.
Posted by JesusQuintana
St Louis
Member since Oct 2013
33366 posts
Posted on 4/28/15 at 7:12 pm to
I don't think they are getting passes. They make mistakes, and they pay for them. Same with Shane. Maturity is an issue for just about everyone in their early 20's. He'll pay for it. It's extremely poor timing more than anything.

Look, I'd love to smoke some weed, but I don't because my employer doesn't allow it. I gave it up for my job and I'm not making near what Shane will. Im also 10 years older than he is.
Posted by Eyezen
Member since Mar 2014
85 posts
Posted on 4/28/15 at 11:21 pm to
frick the weed, dude needs to get thrown the book for DLDILL, driving like a douche in the left lane
This post was edited on 4/28/15 at 11:22 pm
Posted by MizzouJim
Member since Nov 2013
419 posts
Posted on 4/29/15 at 8:53 am to
"This will be the next big legal fight in the courts. If the NFL, MLB, NHL, NBA who say it is an illegal substance for their employees sell tickets to those law abiding citizens who do partake in the weed??"

Prospective employers have the right not to hire people under the influence of anything mind altering, even prescriptions. Further, the NFL is all about maintaining positive PR wherever possible. Even if fans who don't like it are in the minority, that's bad PR the NFL doesn't want or need. There's no upside for the NFL in allowing it. There is no legal basis upon which to challenge, and the NFL would go to the wall defending their position.
Posted by MizzouJim
Member since Nov 2013
419 posts
Posted on 4/29/15 at 8:56 am to

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frick the weed, dude needs to get thrown the book for DLDILL, driving like a douche in the left lane


Man I hate when people do that, especially when they know there are cars behind them waiting to pass.

Posted by pauliebleaker
Chesterfield
Member since Jul 2014
1819 posts
Posted on 4/29/15 at 10:58 am to
quote:

"This will be the next big legal fight in the courts. If the NFL, MLB, NHL, NBA who say it is an illegal substance for their employees sell tickets to those law abiding citizens who do partake in the weed??"

Prospective employers have the right not to hire people under the influence of anything mind altering, even prescriptions. Further, the NFL is all about maintaining positive PR wherever possible. Even if fans who don't like it are in the minority, that's bad PR the NFL doesn't want or need. There's no upside for the NFL in allowing it. There is no legal basis upon which to challenge, and the NFL would go to the wall defending their position.


The big question is not necessarily the states where it is legal recreationally but where it is legally medically. If a doctor prescribes the medicine for anxiety(think Ricky Williams) then the Americans with Disabilities Act has some big questions for the NFL to answer.
Posted by outlawjoseywales
Memphis, TN
Member since Sep 2012
1835 posts
Posted on 4/29/15 at 11:45 am to
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The big question is not necessarily the states where it is legal recreationally but where it is legally medically. If a doctor prescribes the medicine for anxiety(think Ricky Williams) then the Americans with Disabilities Act has some big questions for the NFL to answer.


This.

I believe 26 states have legalized medical pot. Football players are trained on a daily basis to be aggressive, throw your body around, and even bounties put on other players from time to time. If any work force needed some help being mellow it would be the NFL and the NHL right behind them.
Posted by JesusQuintana
St Louis
Member since Oct 2013
33366 posts
Posted on 4/29/15 at 12:27 pm to
That's not really a question. A federal court has already made a ruling on this. Medical or not, you can still be fired.

@RUSSLANDE: Heard that Falcons told Missouri DE S. Ray that they will draft him 7th overall, The Packers are targeting LB D. Perryman with the (2 of 3)
Posted by pauliebleaker
Chesterfield
Member since Jul 2014
1819 posts
Posted on 4/29/15 at 12:48 pm to
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That's not really a question. A federal court has already made a ruling on this. Medical or not, you can still be fired.

@RUSSLANDE: Heard that Falcons told Missouri DE S. Ray that they will draft him 7th overall, The Packers are targeting LB D. Perryman with the (2 of 3)


Good to know. I was unaware of a federal court ruling on it.

Also good to know ATL might still take him. I've always thought its great to have Mizzou players in Georgia reminding those kids we put them there.
Posted by outlawjoseywales
Memphis, TN
Member since Sep 2012
1835 posts
Posted on 4/29/15 at 2:45 pm to
Mike Mayock has Mitch Morse the 5th overall interior lineman. Very nice.
Posted by JesusQuintana
St Louis
Member since Oct 2013
33366 posts
Posted on 4/29/15 at 3:31 pm to
Pretty sure the guy worked for UPS.
Posted by TJJefferson
St. Louis
Member since Mar 2015
214 posts
Posted on 4/29/15 at 4:19 pm to
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Pretty sure he was arrested and released on his own recognizance


He was released at the scene is what I know, to clarify. He wasn't booked into the police station, fingerprinted, or locked up for any amount of time or anything.
Posted by TJJefferson
St. Louis
Member since Mar 2015
214 posts
Posted on 4/29/15 at 4:22 pm to
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Prospective employers have the right not to hire people under the influence of anything mind altering, even prescriptions. Further, the NFL is all about maintaining positive PR wherever possible. Even if fans who don't like it are in the minority, that's bad PR the NFL doesn't want or need. There's no upside for the NFL in allowing it. There is no legal basis upon which to challenge, and the NFL would go to the wall defending their position.


Which is complete bull, and should change as MJ laws change.

I work next to people who fall asleep drunk every night and I can't partake once in a while? BS
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