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I'll say it...I don't like the idea of even considering Matt Campbell.
Posted on 11/28/15 at 1:15 am
Posted on 11/28/15 at 1:15 am
I'll start off by saying Matt Champbell is a good coach. He has done a great job at Toledo and won some big games with a solid winning % in the MAC. Hell, he did what we couldn't do this season and beat Arkansas. Yes, we hired GP from Toledo but Matt Champbell is NOT another Gary Pinkel. How do I know this? Gary Pinkel was an assistant at power 5 school long before he went to Toledo. He was an assistant at Washington under legendary coach Don James, a hall of fame college football coach that won Washington's most recent National Championship. Gary Pinkel had 12+ years coaching experience at a power 5 school under a hall of fame coach. Matt Campbell has never coached at a power 5 school, not as head coach and not even as an assistant.
Gary Pinkel coaching career before Missouri
Matt Campbell
Are we really going to hire a guy with no power 5 experience? How can this even be an acceptable candidate? I mean we may as well just promote Odom because at least he has had a year of experience coaching in the SEC which is more than we can say for Matt Campbell.
Are people forgetting we no longer play in the Big 12? This is the SEC! The toughest conference in America! We are going to get destroyed if we bring in some cheap inexperienced coach to save a few bucks. If you don't want to fork up the cash to pay for a good coach then why did we join this conference?
We already made a cheap crap hire with Kim Anderson and look what happened. We can't even beat fricking UMKC! We went from and elite basketball program to a laughing stock because of this horrible hire. A fricking D-2 coach with no D-1 experience as a head coach? Are you fricking kidding me?
Bottom line is the bare minimum for a new coach here has to be someone that has had experience as either a head coach or an assistant (OC/DC) at another power 5 school. That's really not asking much for a school that has had a lot of recent success and plays in the SEC.
I'm serious when I say this...If we go out and hire some no name and pay him less than 2 million a year....I'm done. I will renounce my Mizzou fan hood because if this administration doesn't respect the program enough to go out and get a quality and experienced coach at this level...why should I?
EDIT: Campbell reportedly working on a deal to be Iowa State's next head coach. LINK
Gary Pinkel coaching career before Missouri
Matt Campbell
Are we really going to hire a guy with no power 5 experience? How can this even be an acceptable candidate? I mean we may as well just promote Odom because at least he has had a year of experience coaching in the SEC which is more than we can say for Matt Campbell.
Are people forgetting we no longer play in the Big 12? This is the SEC! The toughest conference in America! We are going to get destroyed if we bring in some cheap inexperienced coach to save a few bucks. If you don't want to fork up the cash to pay for a good coach then why did we join this conference?
We already made a cheap crap hire with Kim Anderson and look what happened. We can't even beat fricking UMKC! We went from and elite basketball program to a laughing stock because of this horrible hire. A fricking D-2 coach with no D-1 experience as a head coach? Are you fricking kidding me?
Bottom line is the bare minimum for a new coach here has to be someone that has had experience as either a head coach or an assistant (OC/DC) at another power 5 school. That's really not asking much for a school that has had a lot of recent success and plays in the SEC.
I'm serious when I say this...If we go out and hire some no name and pay him less than 2 million a year....I'm done. I will renounce my Mizzou fan hood because if this administration doesn't respect the program enough to go out and get a quality and experienced coach at this level...why should I?
EDIT: Campbell reportedly working on a deal to be Iowa State's next head coach. LINK
This post was edited on 11/28/15 at 3:02 pm
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Posted on 11/28/15 at 1:21 am to TigerTalker16
We really need a coaching search thread with a sticky.
No offense to the OP but we just do at this point until its over.
No offense to the OP but we just do at this point until its over.
Posted on 11/28/15 at 1:23 am to kilo
I have a feeling the coaching search will be over pretty soon which is why this concerns me.
This post was edited on 11/28/15 at 1:28 am
Posted on 11/28/15 at 1:50 am to TigerTalker16
i dont disagree.
Posted on 11/28/15 at 3:50 am to TigerTalker16
It's going to be Campbell, he's set to interview next week, get your puke bucket ready
Posted on 11/28/15 at 7:17 am to TigerTalker16
Matt
PM seems to think the top tier candidates are Odom, Rhule, and Herman.
The second tier are Troy Calhoun, Dino Barbers, and Matt Campbell.
PM seems to think the top tier candidates are Odom, Rhule, and Herman.
The second tier are Troy Calhoun, Dino Barbers, and Matt Campbell.
This post was edited on 11/28/15 at 7:54 am
Posted on 11/28/15 at 8:14 am to TigerTalker16
You may be right. But I still wouldn't have a problem with him. He has had Toledo on an upswing. Though I think if you want to get to the next level and being in the SEC, you have to go for a homerun hire. Kelly, Miles, Petrino etc. I'm sure there are other P5 assistants out there also.
Posted on 11/28/15 at 8:56 am to jafo
Campbell has a great offensive mind. Been a very good recruiter to Toledo. Won some D3 championships. And is only 35.
There's no guarantee than any coach hired will do good. If he could keep the defensive staff in place, he could win here. Maybe even win big.
There's no guarantee than any coach hired will do good. If he could keep the defensive staff in place, he could win here. Maybe even win big.
Posted on 11/28/15 at 9:08 am to TigerTalker16
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Bottom line is the bare minimum for a new coach here has to be someone that has had experience as either a head coach or an assistant (OC/DC) at another power 5 school.
Thats pretty unrealistic. If you are a P5 head coach, you aren't going to come to missouri unless you got fired. Coordinators are a mixed bag, because a majority of the time, they've never worried about the other side of the ball.
I like Campbell as an option. proven winner, including with his own players.
He also doesn't have other ties, meaning he might be here for the long haul.
I like that portion especially. What is the point of getting a great name if they are gone within 3 years.
I trust Mack Rhoades.
Posted on 11/28/15 at 9:13 am to wubilli
Campbell does nothing for me.
I'll support whoever they hire, but I don't want it to be him.
I'll support whoever they hire, but I don't want it to be him.
Posted on 11/28/15 at 9:13 am to TigerTalker16
Campbell, Babers, et al, are "Outlet Mall" hires.
Sometimes you get good deals and sometimes you get shite.
Sometimes you get good deals and sometimes you get shite.
Posted on 11/28/15 at 11:24 am to TigerTalker16
Please not the Toledo guy.
Posted on 11/28/15 at 11:29 am to everytrueson
It's more important who the coordinators are. That's why lots of people are excited about Odom, Kul could be the DC & the OC from UNC excites everyone.
Posted on 11/28/15 at 11:31 am to wubilli
No to Odom too. I want zero people back that were associated with this current team.
Clean house please.
Clean house please.
Posted on 11/28/15 at 11:35 am to everytrueson
I'm ok with keeping the entire defensive staff. Finished the year with a top 10 defense nationally.
Keeping all or most of them likely guarantees that Harris & Penton return for next year.
Keeping all or most of them likely guarantees that Harris & Penton return for next year.
Posted on 11/28/15 at 12:28 pm to TigerTalker16
Yep, this guy has only been in a P5 locker room as a visitor. frick him.
Posted on 11/28/15 at 12:31 pm to wubilli
Can you stop with the "Won X titles" BS
Seriously, you are reaching. He was a positions coach, not dcoord, ocoord or head coach. He was "ON" a team that won a few titles, he had little to do with it.
I'd hire 2 other MAC coaches, this guy wet down his leg when he had a chance to win the MAC and his division this year. Both games at home, with much more talent than the other team.
Seriously, you are reaching. He was a positions coach, not dcoord, ocoord or head coach. He was "ON" a team that won a few titles, he had little to do with it.
I'd hire 2 other MAC coaches, this guy wet down his leg when he had a chance to win the MAC and his division this year. Both games at home, with much more talent than the other team.
Posted on 11/28/15 at 12:36 pm to JesusQuintana
I just did some reading on Campbell. Son of a coach, talks about "process" constant study, recruits kids who fit his ideal. Seems like good stuff. What don't you like?
Posted on 11/28/15 at 12:42 pm to surgicalvenom
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I just did some reading on Campbell. Son of a coach, talks about "process" constant study, recruits kids who fit his ideal. Seems like good stuff. What don't you like?
he is a safe hire, and like i said, 2 better coaches in conference than him.
This is the SEC, not the MAC.
I'd hire Taggart over Campbell in a NY minute, and twice on Sunday.
Taggart took over a pile of dung at USF, left by Holtz, and rebuilt them, took lumps and now has an 8-4 team. He is also a huge reason for WKY success, he laid down the foundation for the coaches after him.
Posted on 11/28/15 at 12:43 pm to surgicalvenom
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I just did some reading on Campbell. Son of a coach, talks about "process" constant study, recruits kids who fit his ideal. Seems like good stuff. What don't you like?
The fact that we did our time with a midmajor coach, except Pinkel had coordinator experience at Washington. He's built the program up. You don't replace him with someone that was less qualified than him when he started.
Pass on Campbell. Hard pass.
Arkansas got a Wisconsin coach, USC got an old guy with a national championship. We're getting Matt fricking Campbell? lol.
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