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re: Rick Ray pulls scholly from Quantel Denson
Posted on 12/12/12 at 2:54 pm to Tds & Beer
Posted on 12/12/12 at 2:54 pm to Tds & Beer
Bundy wants to run our program like it was the past 4 years with no discipline and the talent just running wild doing it's own thing. 
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Posted on 12/12/12 at 2:57 pm to ChargerDog91
We did really well with the #1 recruit in the nation doing his own thing last year.
Posted on 12/12/12 at 2:59 pm to Requiem For A Dawg
Yep we did. Got to the prestigious NIT tournament. 
Posted on 12/12/12 at 3:02 pm to ChargerDog91
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Yep we did. Got to the prestigious NIT tournament.
The NIT is a shitload better than going 8-23
Posted on 12/12/12 at 3:06 pm to Al Bundy Bulldog
So you justify watching a team with top 10 talent collapse at the end of a season because of lack of discipline and players playing street ball because they went to the NIT? The frick Bundy. I'll take my lumps to get better as a program and not have collapses like that.
Posted on 12/12/12 at 3:14 pm to ChargerDog91
Ray's "Motion Offense" has looked somewhat like streetball at times this year. Bloodman is by far the worst PG in the SEC, Sword is shooting under 30% from the field as a guard, and Wendell Lewis isn't getting any better.
Call me crazy, but I dont see all this fundamental team ball you guys are talking about with the players we have on the floor. We play harder defensively, but offense has been really painful to watch, especially in Hawaii.
Call me crazy, but I dont see all this fundamental team ball you guys are talking about with the players we have on the floor. We play harder defensively, but offense has been really painful to watch, especially in Hawaii.
Posted on 12/12/12 at 3:29 pm to Al Bundy Bulldog
Wendell has two double doubles in the past few games and he isn't getting better?
Ray's motion isn't working cause these kids are learning on the go. These kids are freshman that are used to being the guys on their basketball team. This team is so young it's not even funny and you are throwing them under the bus already. My god give them a few more games. One our best shooter and overall leader Jalen Steele will be back soon. Colin Borchert arguably the best shooter on the team is struggling right now, he will on only get better. Dre' Applewhite and the supposed to be starting PG Jacoby Davis are out with ACL tears. Bloodman may be the worst in your opinion but he hustles and runs the offense. Fred Thomas is a bright spot and can only improve with playing time same can be said for Sword.
Let me suggest something for you, BE PATIENT. Don't blame the players and the coaches for this. They aren't at fault, they are out there giving 100% and they deserve our support regardless if you think they suck.
Ray's motion isn't working cause these kids are learning on the go. These kids are freshman that are used to being the guys on their basketball team. This team is so young it's not even funny and you are throwing them under the bus already. My god give them a few more games. One our best shooter and overall leader Jalen Steele will be back soon. Colin Borchert arguably the best shooter on the team is struggling right now, he will on only get better. Dre' Applewhite and the supposed to be starting PG Jacoby Davis are out with ACL tears. Bloodman may be the worst in your opinion but he hustles and runs the offense. Fred Thomas is a bright spot and can only improve with playing time same can be said for Sword.
Let me suggest something for you, BE PATIENT. Don't blame the players and the coaches for this. They aren't at fault, they are out there giving 100% and they deserve our support regardless if you think they suck.
Posted on 12/12/12 at 4:52 pm to Al Bundy Bulldog
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The NIT is a shitload better than going 8-23
I'll take one shitty year to reboot the program and get it going in a better direction.
For some reason you seem to remember the last 6 years being alot better than the rest of us
Posted on 12/12/12 at 5:03 pm to Al Bundy Bulldog
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Bloodman is by far the worst PG in the SEC
Imagine if Bost had blown his knee out his freshman season and we had to spend the whole season with Twanny Beckham at PG. That is what Ray is having to do.
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Sword is shooting under 30% from the field as a guard
Well, no- he is shooting 33% Bundy. He's played 8 college games- not to mention he is a Stands recruit. The man you give so much credit to for getting "players"
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Call me crazy, but I dont see all this fundamental team ball you guys are talking about with the players we have on the floor
We have 7 guys basically playing their 1st season of D-1 basketball. Ya think that might have a little something to fricking do with it? Would this group be any better with Phil Jackson coaching them?
This post was edited on 12/12/12 at 5:04 pm
Posted on 12/12/12 at 6:23 pm to CoonassBulldog
Bundy is taking this to a point that we are never going to be able to let him accept Ray - when and if he is successful.
Passing judgement at this point is the worst kind of ignorance...
Passing judgement at this point is the worst kind of ignorance...
Posted on 12/13/12 at 9:40 am to Al Bundy Bulldog
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Ray's "Motion Offense" has looked somewhat like streetball at times this year.
He has a team full of freshman that have to stay on the floor the whole time. And the offense is still a shite load better than Rick's.
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Bloodman is by far the worst PG in the SEC, Sword is shooting under 30% from the field as a guard, and Wendell Lewis isn't getting any better
Lewis is getting better. And you knew we weren't gonna be good. Why do you act surprised. We're not gonna be good this year. Why can't you accept that. If we had stansbury this year, we would basically have the same team and we would be worse than this.
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Call me crazy, but I dont see all this fundamental team ball you guys are talking about with the players we have on the floor
Crazy
Let me let you in on a little secret. We don't give one flying phuck about going to the NIT. We want a consistent program. The only way to do that is to set a good foundation and have the right players. Why can't you process this through your brain?
This post was edited on 12/13/12 at 9:42 am
Posted on 12/15/12 at 3:02 pm to Tds & Beer
Butler is about to knock off #1 Indiana. Bundy, I'd like you to look up how many blue chip players each team has on their roster. TIA
Posted on 12/15/12 at 4:36 pm to Al Bundy Bulldog
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Wendell Lewis isn't getting any better.
Lewis is 10x better than he was last year especially in scoring.
Last year if he had 4 points he was doing good. He also is in much better shape.
If this team had retained Bryant, Hood, and Deville smith I think we would have been pretty solid but there's nothing Ray could have done to keep them. They just didn't want to be here after last year's mess
Posted on 12/15/12 at 9:30 pm to Tds & Beer
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No. He kicked them off for something that Stans would have made them fake an injury for. Don't you think he probably told them, "hey, if you do this, you will get kicked off the team"? And they did it. And they got kicked off the team. He's building a foundation. We will no longer be looked down on for having a program with no discipline. I can't believe you complain about Rick Ray. We would basically have the same team if we had stans except for the people that were kicked off and we wouldn't be any better. If we had great talent, would it get us anywhere? The past several years have proved that it wouldn't have mattered. Give it a rest. You make yourself look even more ridiculous.
If you think we would have this record with Stan's you are legitimately retarded. I'm not saying he is a better coach because honestly that is yet to be seen. What I do know is we would be better off with Ray trying to straighten out a few kids who like to smoke rather than the current situation. I'm sorry but I'm not sure a single player we are putting on the court right now should be on the team. You're right in that talent only goes so far without discipline, but the opposite is also true. We don't need all discipline and no talent right now, Ray has taken what he saw us as being last year and went the complete opposite direction. The problem is not a single recruit wants to come play in the circus we have right now, and they won't until we coach up some talent and compete with it. Before talent can be coached up it has to be there and he has kicked every last ounce of it off the team.
Posted on 12/15/12 at 9:50 pm to skirpnasty
I see you decided to be Bundy 2.0 tonight.
This post was edited on 12/15/12 at 9:51 pm
Posted on 12/15/12 at 9:54 pm to ChargerDog91
No, I agree that Stan's had hit the end of his road. That doesn't mean I agree with everything Ray has done. Stans left us in a bad place but at the same time we don't have to be where we are. It isn't impossible to work with kids, it is impossible to win many games with what we have.
Posted on 12/15/12 at 10:05 pm to skirpnasty
Shaun and Kristers were given multiple opportunities just by Coach Ray alone. He had no choice but to kick them off.
It isn't Ray's fault that he was left a depleted team and players that won't listen to the coach despite multiple chances. Ray has to change the interior and exterior of this program. Stans completely ruined it in nearly two years. Now Ray has to build it all back up. I think Ray of all people wished he didn't have to kick them off but they gave him no choice through their on action. I commend him for taking the right stand. Why do exactly what led to the prior coaches downfall?
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it is impossible to win many games with what we have.
It isn't Ray's fault that he was left a depleted team and players that won't listen to the coach despite multiple chances. Ray has to change the interior and exterior of this program. Stans completely ruined it in nearly two years. Now Ray has to build it all back up. I think Ray of all people wished he didn't have to kick them off but they gave him no choice through their on action. I commend him for taking the right stand. Why do exactly what led to the prior coaches downfall?
Posted on 12/17/12 at 11:40 am to skirpnasty
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I'm sorry but I'm not sure a single player we are putting on the court right now should be on the team.
Great. Now I can just automatically ignore all of your basketball posts since you have no idea what you are talking about.
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We don't need all discipline and no talent right now
Do you think when Ray looks into his book on how to build a good program, one of the ingredients is no talent?
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The problem is not a single recruit wants to come play in the circus we have right now, and they won't until we coach up some talent and compete with it
That's all on Stansbury. What kind of point are you trying to make? You don't think Ray should have kicked people off the team? Do you think he wanted to do that?
This post was edited on 12/17/12 at 11:44 am
Posted on 12/17/12 at 3:28 pm to Tds & Beer
I don't think it's entirely Rays fault by any means. I have a hard time believing that he worked with them and exhausted every outlet to keep them on the team and get them straight. I don't know exactly what happened and neither do you, I do know that there are high school teams in the state with more talent than us right now. Again I know he was left in a bad situation but you will not convince me that when he got here there were only a few salvageable players/recruits.
Back on topic. We should have never extended this kid an offer, I don't understand this willingness to take a kid who robbed his coach but not work with kids who smoke a little weed. That is my issue, there wasn't much action taken to correct it. There were no suspensions at all, they may have had to run in practice or something along those lines but in the form of public punishment some of them went from 0 to off the team.
Back on topic. We should have never extended this kid an offer, I don't understand this willingness to take a kid who robbed his coach but not work with kids who smoke a little weed. That is my issue, there wasn't much action taken to correct it. There were no suspensions at all, they may have had to run in practice or something along those lines but in the form of public punishment some of them went from 0 to off the team.
Posted on 12/17/12 at 4:23 pm to skirpnasty
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but not work with kids who smoke a little weed
Damn you are stupid. I have said already he tried working with them multiple times since he got here and they failed multiple drug tests. He had no choice.
They were admonished several times. You have no idea what went on behind closed doors.
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