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re: Score Prediction vs Michigan and Season Record Prediction Thread

Posted on 8/11/17 at 9:23 pm to
Posted by TJGator1215
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Posted on 8/11/17 at 9:23 pm to
Michigan's defense maybe young but just like us they played a lot of guys and they have an all star staff in Brown, Mattison, and of course JH running the show. They also have their QB back. We got to bring our A game or it'll get ugly fast.

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This post was edited on 8/11/17 at 9:36 pm
Posted by StrawsDrawnAtRandom
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Posted on 8/11/17 at 10:54 pm to
quote:

Michigan's defense maybe young but just like us they played a lot of guys and they have an all star staff in Brown, Mattison, and of course JH running the show. They also have their QB back. We got to bring our A game or it'll get ugly fast.


It's not young, it's completely new. They won't have the starters to lean on, and they'll have to actually play the full game.

As for their QB: Del Rio was on his way to a more productive year before being injured, and what are your thoughts on Del Rio? In six games, Del Rio had 1,358 with 8 touchdowns, and that was less than half of a season vs. 2,538 and 18 touchdowns.

6 vs. 15 Games and Del Rio had more yards and more touchdowns. In fact, if you string together Appleby and Del Rio, they have better numbers than Speight.

Their running backs are pretty mediocre, their line is
new and their quarterback is run-of-the-mill, slow with no deep ball.



I think a lot of us are giving way too much credit to Michigan because of the last time we played -- with a completely broken spirit and quarterback with half the time having their foot out the door.

This year, almost our entire offensive line is returning, all of our running backs are returning (the good ones, anyway), the receivers as well. Quarterback may be new, but I have faith in Del Rio if it absolutely must be him, otherwise Zaire or Franks look to be able.

The defense proved it didn't need its starters to shut down and humiliate the same Iowa team that beat Michigan last year -- when they had all of their starters.
Posted by finchmeister08
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Posted on 8/12/17 at 12:28 am to
Honestly, I don't care how young/old Michigan is. We've never played them well. Similar to Auburn. We never play auburn well either. See 2006. We had a high caliber national championship team that was "unstoppable". Guess what happened. The gators shite the bed in Jordan Hare.

Losing game number one on the season is going to put a lot of pressure during the season to make the playoffs. Mainly if the loss is due to an incompetent offense.

Michigan is a trap game. Especially, the first half. I'm like you guys, I'm excited college football is right around the corner, but I'm also skeptical of the offense. Until I'm proved wrong that our offense is everything you guys and the media says it is, I'm gonna have to assume that it's shite.... again... for another whole season.
Posted by StrawsDrawnAtRandom
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Posted on 8/12/17 at 1:04 am to
We've never played LSU well at Baton Rouge, we've only won one since 2004 aside from the one we did last year.

So thank God you're not in the locker room to tell the guys: Hey, we should just forfeit -- we don't win in Baton Rouge, we've got terrible luck there.

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Until I'm proved wrong that our offense is everything you guys and the media says it is, I'm gonna have to assume that it's shite....


Why? Why not assume that it's being turned around due to better offensive recruiting (can't be debated) and almost the entire offense returning since they were all incredibly young last year?

You're not in ''wait and see'', you're in ''it's shite until it's not'' which is just such a bogus way to look at it. I'm not going to say they'll blow people out of the water, but I will say that this is the first year since he's been here where he's had an offensive line.
This post was edited on 8/12/17 at 1:05 am
Posted by TJGator1215
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Posted on 8/12/17 at 2:32 am to
My thoughts on LDR is he's a low level fbs or high D-2 kid. He looked good against UK and UMass but terrible in every other game including NTX before he got hurt. As for Michigan's defense did you not see the infograph they are returning a ton of guys on defense except in the secondary, and most of their guys on offense. UF has trouble with power running teams. Add in our young DT rotation and that causes me to be worried. Iowa is irrelevant to now.
This post was edited on 8/12/17 at 2:37 am
Posted by TJGator1215
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Posted on 8/12/17 at 2:40 am to
The problem is you have to wait for the 2018 recruits to get here. The results so far have shown the offense has struggled regardless of QB and 95% of FR make very little impact their first year. The offense is completely unproven this year. We need it to explode in a good way.
This post was edited on 8/12/17 at 2:42 am
Posted by atlgator
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Posted on 8/12/17 at 6:07 am to
Mac has recruited a lot of contributing young players in his first two seasons on the field. Based on the early word out of fall camp, there's going to be a few freshmen DBs playing, a couple of the DL playing (including Slaton, Conliffe, Campbell and Carter), and James Robinson and Daquon Green are both trying to break into the rotation. Plus he said Lemons and Davis are better than he expected right now.

We could have a ton of freshmen playing this year because they're ball players and not because we need them to be ready.

I agree about the offense struggling regardless of QB so far, except for the first 6 games of Mac's tenure when the offense was rolling under Will Grier. I think with the right quarterback, the offense will roll like that again. It's obvious that the offense works. We just need the quarterback to hit the open receivers. Hopefully Franks and Zaire can manage that this year. And Franks will be able to manage it going forward.
Posted by reel_gator8
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Member since May 2012
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Posted on 8/12/17 at 6:14 am to
Memo to naysayers

I will be the first one to say that defense/special teams are the main reasons we went to Hotlanta the past two years. The offense has been mediocre, but to say it will be again in 2017 is wrong in my opinion.

As Straws pointed out our OL will FINALLY be a force and a strong suit. Some of you guys don't know squat about football, you can have New England Patriots offense with our OL the past two years and it would struggle.

The big uglies are why Bama wins...they recruited horses to block....and anyone can see the progress Mac has made recruiting OL the past two years. We will FINALLY have an upperclassmen dominated OL. Snap experience and talent will show up on the field.

IMO we dominate Meatchicken from start to finish. Our RBs, WRs are vastly underrated. Doesn't matter who the triggerman is...the coaches will decide based on practices....color me not worried.

Naysayers who think the girls school will beat us are mistaken. They are beatable....as is every team. We will stop the streak this year....book it!

The games we will have a hard time with are @UK, @USC and possibly @Mizz. We lose one of those games and maybe two...but I think one loss will set the teams minds right and refocus them.

The defense will surprise many (except me)look for Moon to make impact as a LB...teammates have said he is the hardest hitter on the team. Other teams lose starters and they are given preseason passes....we get disrespected a lot. This will be the year we break through and Mac finally gets the recognition he deserves.
This post was edited on 8/12/17 at 6:20 am
Posted by finchmeister08
Member since Mar 2011
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Posted on 8/12/17 at 11:14 am to
quote:

We've never played LSU well at Baton Rouge, we've only won one since 2004 aside from the one we did last year.

Throw in '09 in there too bro.

As far as the players, god bless their little hearts. It takes a lot to go out their with mediocre coaching.
Posted by boXerrumble
Member since Sep 2011
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Posted on 8/12/17 at 11:49 am to
quote:

Michigan is a trap game. Especially, the first half. I'm like you guys, I'm excited college football is right around the corner, but I'm also skeptical of the offense. Until I'm proved wrong that our offense is everything you guys and the media says it is, I'm gonna have to assume that it's shite.... again... for another whole season.


Michigan is anything but a trap game
Posted by StrawsDrawnAtRandom
Member since Sep 2013
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Posted on 8/12/17 at 7:09 pm to
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Throw in '09 in there too bro


Uh, that's the only one I was talking about ''aside from the one we did last year''. Are you even a Gator fan?

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As far as the players, god bless their little hearts. It takes a lot to go out their with mediocre coaching.


Whuff, mediocre coaching from LSU I can believe. From Florida? Pure team spirit, playing their hardest to make one of the greatest stands in Florida football history.

Sorry our success makes you so unhappy.
Posted by finchmeister08
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Posted on 8/12/17 at 8:08 pm to
Posted by dbuchanon
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Posted on 8/12/17 at 8:12 pm to
UF 23
Other North team 16
Posted by reel_gator8
Seminole,Fl
Member since May 2012
11060 posts
Posted on 8/12/17 at 8:19 pm to
Since Finch isn't a Gator fan...have to enlighten him on Gator history.

We used to always win at red stick in the 60s-80s and lose in the Swamp.... Spurrier was 3-0 as a QB against them...including 2-0 in red stick. As a coach he was like 11-1 I believe.

Better check overall series record Finchy. I am pretty sure we still lead the series.

Meat chicken will be plucked and sent off to Tyson Farms on ice. And...oh frick the damn negative crap. Its a GATOR board. So...we go 11-1 this year you will still say Mac isn't a good coach? No...you'll hide.
Posted by StrawsDrawnAtRandom
Member since Sep 2013
21146 posts
Posted on 8/12/17 at 8:27 pm to
If we establish the run, we're going to win big. Period. I am going to remain cautiously optimistic that Scarlett and the line have improved over the last spring and summer.
Posted by reel_gator8
Seminole,Fl
Member since May 2012
11060 posts
Posted on 8/12/17 at 10:37 pm to
Well here is sobering thoughts for little boy blues

From ESPN:

The Wolverines also have the fewest returning starters of any FBS team. That means all of those guys Harbaugh went to such lengths for will now have to step up.

FEWEST starters of ANY FBS team? Indiana and Purdue could beat them. Regardless of how talented the raw recruits are or the sophs that saw some duty...its just plain fact that experience will win out when facing a talented team like UF.
Posted by TJGator1215
FL/TN
Member since Sep 2011
14174 posts
Posted on 8/12/17 at 10:45 pm to
It's both. The FR have to play because there's no one else. We didn't get a DT in 2016 and almost none of our DBs from 2015-2016 have done a thing except Chauncey. That's why the FR DTs and DBs will be playing. Most of Mac's players in 2016 are unproven as well as this class.
This post was edited on 8/12/17 at 10:53 pm
Posted by TJGator1215
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Member since Sep 2011
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Posted on 8/12/17 at 10:47 pm to
You're on crack if you think Indiana or Purdue is going to beat michigan. They're young but they've played a lot. Lack of returning starters didn't hurt Ohio St last year. It's talent and coaching
This post was edited on 8/12/17 at 10:51 pm
Posted by StrawsDrawnAtRandom
Member since Sep 2013
21146 posts
Posted on 8/12/17 at 11:20 pm to
quote:

You're on crack if you think Indiana or Purdue is going to beat michigan. They're young but they've played a lot. Lack of returning starters didn't hurt Ohio St last year. It's talent and coaching




That's what a lot of people said about Iowa. I doubt Michigan has a bad year, but I don't see any reason they should be favored over Florida. Are they a talented team? Sure. Are they also returning the least starters in the whole of the FBS? Yeah. A lot of our young players *were* the starters for the end of the year.
Posted by reel_gator8
Seminole,Fl
Member since May 2012
11060 posts
Posted on 8/13/17 at 12:47 pm to
Only one way to find out...play the damn game! Then we will see what we see, no?

Talking all week long wont do squat.
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