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McElwain is 11 - 1 when playing at home.

Posted on 11/6/16 at 1:40 pm
Posted by StrawsDrawnAtRandom
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Posted on 11/6/16 at 1:40 pm
What a bizarre stat.
Posted by finchmeister08
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Posted on 11/6/16 at 2:52 pm to
Don't start this shite. Our coach sucks a big bag of donkey dicks and you know it.
Posted by montanagator
Member since Jun 2015
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Posted on 11/6/16 at 3:00 pm to
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What a bizarre stat.



Isn't Ole Miss last year basically the only team we've played at home that didn't suck (other than FSU who beat our arse)?


Actually, can someone figure out why Mac seems to lose in blowouts so often-- even Champ when he lost usually kept it painfully competitive- all but what 1 of Mac's losses have been by double digits?
Posted by TJGator1215
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Posted on 11/6/16 at 4:16 pm to
You got to be trolling at this point.

Posted by StrawsDrawnAtRandom
Member since Sep 2013
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Posted on 11/6/16 at 9:42 pm to
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Actually, can someone figure out why Mac seems to lose in blowouts so often-- even Champ when he lost usually kept it painfully competitive- all but what 1 of Mac's losses have been by double digits?


How are we describing a blowout? For me, it's three possessions.

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even Champ when he lost usually kept it painfully competitive


FSU, Michigan and Arkansas all beat us by 3 possessions, two of those games were with Treon Harris and a 80% underclassmen offensive line with literally one quarterback on the roster.

So in two years he has three blowouts. One to the eventual champs, another to a Playoff team and now to Arkansas on the road.

Muschamp had two in his last year by Missouri and Alabama, but before that he had been blown out by:

Vanderbilt (17), Florida State (30) and Missouri (19).

Sorry, but until McElwain gets blown out by Vanderbilt you can't say they're the same or Muschamp did better.

But hey, at least he kept it close with Georgia Southern, right?

You guys are so delusional.
Posted by TJGator1215
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Posted on 11/6/16 at 10:11 pm to
Bama, Michigan, Arky, UT, FSU, were all blowouts regardless of what the score ended up being. WM had a lot of blowout losses too. They're both garbage, except WM could at least recruit a little.
Posted by StrawsDrawnAtRandom
Member since Sep 2013
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Posted on 11/6/16 at 10:23 pm to
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Bama, Michigan, Arky, UT, FSU, were all blowouts regardless of what the score ended up being. WM had a lot of blowout losses too. They're both garbage, except WM could at least recruit a little.



He recruited DICK at offense. There are Division II teams that have more offensive talent than we've had in the past four years.

And as I said: If 14 points is a blowout then we beat Georgia by a blowout and you should be happy.


But you're not.

You're just never happy, nor are you sensible. WM Was getting blown out by Vanderbilt, we're beating Vanderbilt.

WM recruited big and failed to bowl and lost to an FCS team.

McElwain won the East, and we're in the hunt for the East again when just two years ago we were wondering if we were going to bowl.

Mental comparing McElwain to Muschamp.
Posted by TJGator1215
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Posted on 11/6/16 at 10:41 pm to
The bar is NC and SEC titles. Keep parroting the same shite. He's a below average coach. He's supposed to be an offensive guru yet his offense has had 250 yards or less 3 of his last 4 games. They are completely undisciplined and there's zero adjustment. Beating a 5-4 UGA isn't an accomplishment. Having less than 250 yds and 0 tds vs the #110 ranked defense is though. It's pathetic. I don't know why you set the bar at beating VU now. That team is 4-5. The 2013 one was 9-4. There is zero comparisons. He recruited bad on offense at OL and didn't know how to manage that side. He recruited Grier, Goolsby, Powell,KT, DRob and the defense. Fooleys DA hired an offensive on Derek Dooleys level who can't coach, hire the right staff or recruit. Winning the East is not a big deal when its the worst it has ever been and Is the worst P5 division
Posted by StrawsDrawnAtRandom
Member since Sep 2013
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Posted on 11/6/16 at 10:51 pm to
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The bar is NC and SEC titles.



We don't even need to talk anymore, you're retarded.

Winning an SEC title means beating Alabama, and a coach coming in with less offensive talent than the title winning FCS isn't going to get it done.

McElwain has one full cycle of recruiting under him, he took over the last month 2014 and had 10 recruits thanks to Muschamp. You want him to take a team that couldn't bowl regularly and beat Alabama in a year and a half.


You're just retarded.
Posted by TJGator1215
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Member since Sep 2011
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Posted on 11/7/16 at 12:09 am to
There has been no significant improvement in offense, and the defense has regressed. He's signed 39 3*s regardless. We're #91 in total offense in Mac's 2nd year with the easiest SOS in the SEC! Does Harbaugh 2015 class not count? The one that finished below us. He's 19-3, 4-1 vs the top 25, has top 10 classes and is destroying his competition. He's taken a team that was 5-7 the year before he got there and has them rolling on and off the field. What's Mac excuse? Harbaugh destroyed UF with a grad transfer QB. The difference is one can manage and coach a team and the other cannot.

Michigan 2014 with Nuss
#115 in total offense and #111 in ppg

2015

#50 scoring offense #69 in total offense

2016

#3 scoring offense #20 in total offense.


UF:

2016:
#76 scoring offense #91 in total offense.

2015:

#100 in ppg #112 in total offense

2014:

#56 scoring offense, #96 in total offense

Harbaugh started with just as big of a mess than Mac and is killing it and his team has improved greatly in recruiting and play every year
LINK

Per 247 Recruiting:

2015: 37th had 6 commits including a K and legacy before JH arrived. 16Th in average * ranking


2016: 6th overall 2nd B10 9th in avg * ranking

2017: 10th 2nd B10 9th in avg* ranking


UF

2015: 21st 10th in SEC 20th in avg * ranking

2016: 12th 6th in SEC 16th in avg * ranking

2017: 17th 8th in SEC 13th in avg * ranking
This post was edited on 11/7/16 at 5:55 am
Posted by slayerxing
Gainesville
Member since Feb 2010
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Posted on 11/7/16 at 7:51 am to
Still 2 SEC games to go, who knows, Florida could maybe win them both somehow.

But things are not looking good right now.

South Carolina is coming in with a lot of momentum. If they beat the gators at home, it's the end of McElwain long term, because he will completely lose the fan base.
Posted by finchmeister08
Member since Mar 2011
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Posted on 11/7/16 at 8:17 am to
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Harbaugh started with just as big of a mess than Mac and is killing it and his team has improved greatly in recruiting and play every year

i brought up this argument and was told that ESPN is making it easy for them for all the tv time that they're getting. not really sure how much that really matters. sounds kinda dumb.
Posted by monkeybutt
Member since Oct 2015
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Posted on 11/7/16 at 8:33 am to
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You guys are so delusional.


Posted by slayerxing
Gainesville
Member since Feb 2010
11045 posts
Posted on 11/7/16 at 8:36 am to
Harbaugh is just a better coach - we all know it now, there isn't even a reason to discuss it right now.
Posted by montanagator
Member since Jun 2015
16957 posts
Posted on 11/7/16 at 10:59 am to
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Mental comparing McElwain to Muschamp.




Barring some upsets McElwain likely has the same or a worse record after 2 years?
Posted by StrawsDrawnAtRandom
Member since Sep 2013
21146 posts
Posted on 11/10/16 at 2:43 pm to
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Harbaugh started with just as big of a mess than Mac and is killing it and his team has improved greatly in recruiting and play every year

i brought up this argument and was told that ESPN is making it easy for them for all the tv time that they're getting. not really sure how much that really matters. sounds kinda dumb.


No, he didn't. Harbaugh plays in an easier conference and had a 5th year transfer quarterback who was actually pretty damn good and a great offense.

They had the right amount of players, and a good coach can do a lot better when they have the right personnel.

When you come into a program and you can't even run a practice correctly because there aren't enough offensive linemen, the entire thing is hard.

10 total players for 2014 in December from Muschamp. Not even close to the same.

Also, Michigan has played one ranked team the entire year and will only play one other one by the end. We will have played four.

Tennessee, Arkansas, LSU and FSU are all going to be ranked. If we only had to play FSU and Tennessee every year, it would be quite a different schedule.
Posted by TJGator1215
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Member since Sep 2011
14174 posts
Posted on 11/10/16 at 5:07 pm to
Mac is more like Brady Hoke than Harbaugh. They both started with dumpster fires on offense, both hired Nuss, their teams didn't improve significantly on offense. Hoke could recruit a little though but his recruiting was like WM. Harbaugh had to clean up after Hoke and Rich Rodriguez torpedoed the program and he's done it in a year and a half.
Mac chose Appleby, just like he did with LDR that's on him. UM SOS is #52 ours is #64 and the east is garbage. Michigan is destroying both good and bad teams. We're getting destroyed by mediocre teams in UT and ARK. Arkansas was giving up 45+ PPG and 500+ ypg in the SEC. We scored 3 points and got 241 yards of offense. UT, ARKY, LSU and possibly fsu won't be ranked at the end of the year.
Posted by TJGator1215
FL/TN
Member since Sep 2011
14174 posts
Posted on 11/10/16 at 5:22 pm to
WM 1st 2 years:

18-8

Mac 1st 2 years

16-6 with SCAR, LSU, FSU and bowl game left.

WM was 11-2 through his first 1.5 at UF. Bizarre.
This post was edited on 11/10/16 at 7:40 pm
Posted by StrawsDrawnAtRandom
Member since Sep 2013
21146 posts
Posted on 11/10/16 at 5:34 pm to
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They both started with dumpster fires on offense


They literally wrote how Florida's program was way worse on the offensive side of the ball.

Several articles, several different places. McElwain couldn't even practice with the offensive line because they didn't have enough people to field it.

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Harbaugh had to clean up after Hoke


Coming in and running an offense chalk-full of seniors isn't that hard.

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UM SOS is #52 ours is #64 and the east is garbage. Michigan is destroying both good and bad teams.


SOS can be tricky because Tennessee had to play, in a row: Florida, Georgia, Texas A&M and Alabama before losing to SC and being completely broken.

The Tennessee team we played was not the same that is playing this week.

Similarly: I'd love to see Michigan waltz into Tiger Stadium and beat LSU and I'll tell you something: They wouldn't.

The only reason Arkansas isn't going to be ranked is because they also had to play, in a row: Alabama, Texas A&M, Florida and now LSU. All of those teams are ranked.

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Arkansas was giving up 45+ PPG and 500+ ypg in the SEC. We scored 3 points and got 241 yards of offense.


We were sleepwalking against a good team with a broken quarterback with only one backup after him. You can only do so much with a busted quarterback.

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UT, ARKY, LSU and possibly fsu won't be ranked at the end of the year.



FSU will be, if Arkansas or LSU isn't it's because they lost to each other.

Arkansas and LSU are both going to crush whoever they play.

Michigan has a way, way easier schedule than we do. Even Vanderbilt isn't as bad as their record is, nor is Kentucky. They're destroying people, but that's because they had a loaded offense when he got there and he's an offensive mind.

If we had that same offense with 4 out of 5 being upperclassmen with an actual quarterback, we'd have the same turnout.

Like Grier but with an actual offensive line.
Posted by slayerxing
Gainesville
Member since Feb 2010
11045 posts
Posted on 11/10/16 at 5:51 pm to
You are delusional about Michigan. They would be easily undefeated with our schedule right now.
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