re: By the numbers

Grier was supposed to be the only long term solution at quarterback and he fricked up.

Appleby was never supposed to start a game here, he was brought in for depth so we wouldn't be forced to play a freshman that wasn't ready if LDR got hurt. It's a good thing we did bring in Appleby, because he ended up having to play due to LDRs injuries. And LDR was brought in originally because we only had Grier and Treon on the roster and needed depth as well. He may have competed for the job, but he was never going to beat out Grier. The point is, they were brought in by Mac out of desperation rather than by Mac's choice. Franks and Trask are Mac's choice. Jake Allen and Kadarius Toney are Mac's choice.

Let's see how he does with those guys before we castrate the offense and declare that he can't develop a quarterback, when the truth is that we have no idea what Mac's guys look like now or what they'll look like once Mac develops and molds them into.

So quarterback with a pulse = great

Quarterback without a pulse = average

I am going to judge Mac and Nuss by Franks or Trask when one of them starts next year. If anyone else starts, that is bad news. Be it LDR, Allen, or Toney.

Those are his recruits and they have a year the system. Next year, the WRs and RBs are the best UF has had since 2009. OL is only losing Sharpe and Dillard. By now, they should be able to understand and run the offense efficiently. They have both shown that they have the arm talent in the spring game.

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As long as the QB plays well idc who he is. If Jake or whover beats out Franks thats not an indictment against Mac. Best player plays

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If it is Jake, it will show that STA is a better developer of a QB than Mac and Nuss. Franks and Trask should be better than a kid straight out of HS. To the best of my knowledge Jake is not an EE. Our coaches should be teaching Franks and Trask how to run the offense. Especially with bowl and spring practices.

Toney could be the except since he is an EE. I expect him to move positions once he is behind Franks, Trask, Allen, and LDR when the spring is done. However, I did not think a true freshman QB would win the SEC. What do I know.

Toney is less talented at QB than Treon. Pass

Let me repeat for the umpteenth time...do not be surpised if LDR is named the starter for meatchicken game and maybe the next game.

The reason? Just because Franks/Trask are r/s frosh doesnt mean they can hit the ground running. Grier was a r/s frosh and he certainly struggled if anyone recalls...he also battled it out til the opening game with Treon for the starting position. We have a tougher opener this year and with the so so success we've had...we cannot afford to have Franks/Trask blow it and commit costly mistakes and then the peanut gallery will erupt. So I kinda expect the r/s frosh QB will be gradually inserted in game situations to get them adjusted to live bullets.

LDR can win games folks. If we dont turn the ball over and our OL protects and run blocks like I think they will, then we will get Ws. By the second/third game we will see a lot more of Franks/Trask. The coaches know what they have and if Franks/Trask does start from day one? It means very good news cause I dont see Mac trying to make the peanut gallery happy...he wants to win and by starting Franks/Trask..it means he has total confidence in them.

And lets not dismiss the possible insertion of Toney in either 2017 or 2018 as a QB/athlete who might be a lot better than we think. Never say never.

LDR does not have the arm to be a good SEC QB.

And he completely lost his decision making after getting hurt.

If UF throws Del Rio out vs. Michigan, I will lose it.

Or if Mac hadn't shoved him out for LDR. Grier at UF wasn't a world beater vs Miz, UK, or ECU. He did show potential though. Keep moving those goalposts. I kinda miss the undefeated with his guy mantra you guys spewed.

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LDR does not have the arm to be a good SEC QB.

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Never said he did...read my reply again...what Im saying is that LDR might start the first game or two and then the frosh QB will get appearances to get them acclimated and not risk losing a game to appease the peanut gallery.

I also stated that IF Mac does start Franks/Trask...then its good news because they have shown him and the staff that they got the goods.

Just trying to warn folks that Franks/Trask may not be ready just yet. A r/s frosh QB is still a frosh in snap experience years...remember that. People have to learn patience.

IMO the future is probably Franks....he is 6'6 and will have vision ability to see over a lot of linemen...but is he really ready out of the chute? Better look at other r/s QBs and see how they fared.

You dont add water and get instant QB. The most talented QB around for the future is Eason and look at the UGA's 7-5 record. They struggled even though last year they had an upperclassmen OL and great RBs. Eason is probably going to be a year away yet. If you look at some of his putrid games and the results, you'll shake your head.