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Posted on 1/28/17 at 8:44 am to reel_gator8
Posted on 1/28/17 at 8:44 am to reel_gator8
I will say, if they can pull Rambo and Robinson to finish off WR class, get this Brown kid to flip and join Stewart to finish off DB class, one of ray or Chaisson, then grab any of the plethora of DT's we're recruiting... I'll shut the hell up.
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Posted on 1/28/17 at 9:19 am to monkeybutt
That isn't going to happen.
Posted on 1/28/17 at 9:32 am to gatordmb89
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gatordmb89
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That isn't going to happen.
Splain plueasee...in my best Ricky Ricardo accent
That we arent getting both OU committs (who may have wanted warmer weather?)or just one of them or that we arent getting 7-8 four stars?
I bet you a bent penny we will sign at least seven four stars that arent committed go us right now . Im the most optimistic....glass half full kinda guy in the world.
Posted on 1/28/17 at 9:46 am to gatordmb89
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That isn't going to happen.
Oh I know we're not getting either Ray or Chaisson, just saying if we did I'll lose my mind. But Chaisson just aint happening. Hell LSU sent coaches to his house at 5am to hang with him before he got on his flight here. I guarantee you we haven't shown that type of love to him, this all last minute visit stuff isn't gonna trump what TX and LSU have been laying down for him the past year.
I doubt Rambo happens either, but the Brown visit is interesting. We need DB's and he'd be our best one if he came, there could be something there.
Posted on 1/28/17 at 10:07 am to monkeybutt
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monkeybutt
In case you didnt know...our WR coach Kerry Dixon grew up with Chaisson's dad and was a friend in school...so dont think it cant happen.
Here's a list to consider:
LaBryan Ray is on campus right now with...drumroll please
Chaisson 5 star DL who runs like a deer, 4 star Breyon Gaddy along with 3 star brother Brandon, Devonte Wyatt a 4 star, Rambo & 4 star Tre Brown, 4 star DB Brad Stewart, 3 star DB Brian Edwards, Lemons a 3 star RB, Abule Abadi the 6'7" DE a hidden gem?, dont know if OL Hillery is on campus or not. Zech Byrd had basketball game last night and should be on campus today. We still have 4 star Robinson WR who is 6'4", JUCO DT Mailk Young, 4 star Slaton, 3 star Nick Smith LB and possibly a couple more.
Have faith. Relax, we are turning for the home stretch and by Sunday night we enter the dead period.
Posted on 1/28/17 at 11:30 am to reel_gator8
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I do think Toney has the skillset to come in and run the wildcat some and also play WR...his video highlights are sick..dude can really make people miss...and he can throw. I can see him fake a handoff and go the opposite way and really fool folks. Give him a crease and they will be looking at the numbers on the back of his jersey.
Don't forget, we have Dre Massey coming back after he missed the entire season after tearing his ACL.
Posted on 1/28/17 at 11:51 am to monkeybutt
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then how come Muschamp pulled in a top 10 class fresh off a 4-8 season?
Because it was ''Florida'', that's why immediately the year after we saw a steep decline in recruiting. We just came off an amazing season and were riding high on it, but after that he had bust after bust.
Recruiting is great, but there's just no doubt that under McElwain we have played better at every position outside of quarterback because someone forgot to recruit quarterbacks.
Wasn't it Muschamp who recruited two offensive linemen per year?
Wasn't it Muschamp who didn't recruit a kicker?
If you take away the defensive players, he recruited bare bones. No idea why you think he was a great recruiter considering the six scholarship offensive linemen McElwain had to work with his first day on the job, no kicker and after Grier no quarterback.
With our best receiver being a freshman.
Weird that there was no talent for such a monster recruiter.
Posted on 1/28/17 at 12:32 pm to StrawsDrawnAtRandom
Hey Box...yes we have Massey as a r/s frosh, Tyrie Cleveland who is a homerun threat downfield and will stretch defenses a lot and Calloway will find more open space since he cant be doubled up on. WR is looking real good and Green is a WR who will probably be a force soon.
Straws, I disagree with assessment about Muschamp and always have...first of all it was Urban who recruited two OL in 2010 that would put us at dire straits eventually..Muschamp did the same...but why? Because he inherited a weak arse team in 2011 and he immediately tried to load up on defense first...which I understand...his problem was OC related mostly and turnover wasnt helping him convince offensive recruits that they would be coached up by the same OC for four years.
If Muschamp could have had the right OC from the getgo it would have been a different story I feel, but he didnt and it wasnt. 4-8 shouldnt even be used in a post because unless you understand the roster and how many injuries, a lot of them season ending injuries...then you cant say 4-8 is his fault. When we played Ga Southern we had NO lbs against a triple option team...we had been playing a third string QB. We had a walk on start at LB against Ga Southern along with true frosh Jarrad Davis who was going to be r/sed.
it is certainly hard to win with a QB who had no business starting a game against USCe or the girls school....Saban couldnt have beaten them with Skyler Morningwig. Especially when you load the plane wiith 59 players to go play at Columbia SC and a handful of them were walk ons for special teams.
If you recall...Driskel broke leg in UT game (4th game of the year) then Murphy our second stringer was injured by dirty play at LSU. We were decimated by injuries Straw. 2014? Thats on Muschamp. But try not to roast the guy now...he is not here and look forward to Mac. Muschamp was a very good recruiter and you dont come off well disagreeing with that.How long before we dont have to hear about how bad Muschamp was? Please for your own sanity...let it go.
Straws, I disagree with assessment about Muschamp and always have...first of all it was Urban who recruited two OL in 2010 that would put us at dire straits eventually..Muschamp did the same...but why? Because he inherited a weak arse team in 2011 and he immediately tried to load up on defense first...which I understand...his problem was OC related mostly and turnover wasnt helping him convince offensive recruits that they would be coached up by the same OC for four years.
If Muschamp could have had the right OC from the getgo it would have been a different story I feel, but he didnt and it wasnt. 4-8 shouldnt even be used in a post because unless you understand the roster and how many injuries, a lot of them season ending injuries...then you cant say 4-8 is his fault. When we played Ga Southern we had NO lbs against a triple option team...we had been playing a third string QB. We had a walk on start at LB against Ga Southern along with true frosh Jarrad Davis who was going to be r/sed.
it is certainly hard to win with a QB who had no business starting a game against USCe or the girls school....Saban couldnt have beaten them with Skyler Morningwig. Especially when you load the plane wiith 59 players to go play at Columbia SC and a handful of them were walk ons for special teams.
If you recall...Driskel broke leg in UT game (4th game of the year) then Murphy our second stringer was injured by dirty play at LSU. We were decimated by injuries Straw. 2014? Thats on Muschamp. But try not to roast the guy now...he is not here and look forward to Mac. Muschamp was a very good recruiter and you dont come off well disagreeing with that.How long before we dont have to hear about how bad Muschamp was?
Please for your own sanity...let it go.Posted on 1/28/17 at 12:35 pm to StrawsDrawnAtRandom
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Because it was ''Florida'', that's why immediately the year after we saw a steep decline in recruiting.
We weren't able to get kids committed because they knew Muschamp was on the hot seat and wanted to see how it would play out. He got fired, nobody commits till the new coach is hired. This steep decline in recruiting narrative you keep trying to force feed is not reality.
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Recruiting is great, but there's just no doubt that under McElwain we have played better at every position outside of quarterback because someone forgot to recruit quarterbacks.
Once again, never argued Mac isn't a better coach.
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Wasn't it Muschamp who recruited two offensive linemen per year?
Mac had 3 guys last year and only 2 this year with no signs off that number growing.
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Wasn't it Muschamp who didn't recruit a kicker?
Muschamp inherited Caleb Sturgis and then recruited the number one kicker in Hardin. When Hardin had the yips in year one, he put in Velez who did well 6/8 in 2013. In 2014, Hardin and Velez combined for 19/24. Then he was gone, and Hardin yipped it up in Macs first year. So what exactly was Muschamp supposed to do recruiting wise? Have two kickers on scholarship, when kicking didn't actually turn into a problem until after he was fired?
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If you take away the defensive players
If you take away the top ten defensive talent that has carried us the past few years... solid start to your argument. quote:
the six scholarship offensive linemen
He did recruit this position poorly, but there was also alot of fluky attrition, Rod Johnson, Kelleher, Oct Jackson, Sarvary, Jordan, Dunker. That's alot of unluckiness.
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McElwain had to work with his first day on the job, no kicker
Once again, his first day on the job he had a Jr kicker who had previously hit 7/10 FGs as a sophomore. You are plain wrong on this point.
Posted on 1/28/17 at 1:19 pm to monkeybutt
Brian Edwards is a four star and ranked higher than chris Henderson on Rivals.
Posted on 1/28/17 at 1:31 pm to atlgator
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Brian Edwards is a four star and ranked higher than chris Henderson on Rivals.
Not sure why that was directed at me, but how about this though:
CJ Henderson Composite rating #135 in nation
Brian Edwards Comp rating #566 in nation
I'd like to have Edwards now that it seems CJ is off the board, but not sure what your point was? There are 4 recruiting services, I think the composite rating is our best judge.
Posted on 1/28/17 at 2:08 pm to monkeybutt
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We weren't able to get kids committed because they knew Muschamp was on the hot seat and wanted to see how it would play out. He got fired, nobody commits till the new coach is hired. This steep decline in recruiting narrative you keep trying to force feed is not reality.
Weird how a 4 - 8 season can affect recruiting when you said it wouldn't otherwise.
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Mac had 3 guys last year and only 2 this year with no signs off that number growing.
Because he signed 5 in 2015, you moron. So, in his last three years he had almost double the bodies on the roster at offensive linemen.
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Muschamp inherited Caleb Sturgis and then recruited the number one kicker in Hardin. When Hardin had the yips in year one, he put in Velez who did well 6/8 in 2013. In 2014, Hardin and Velez combined for 19/24. Then he was gone, and Hardin yipped it up in Macs first year. So what exactly was Muschamp supposed to do recruiting wise? Have two kickers on scholarship, when kicking didn't actually turn into a problem until after he was fired?
Harden went 4 - 12 in his first year, which is the why he brought in Velez who left, and after that he failed to bring in another kicker after Harden was obviously failing. So basically, after Velez (a walk-on, not a recruiting miracle), he had Harden alone.
Weird.
You'd think you might actually have a backup kicker in case your headcase kicker fails again.
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If you take away the top ten defensive talent that has carried us the past few years... solid start to your argument.
Yeah, recruiting one side of the ball is usually what fricks up your program -- like giving up 250 yards to an FCS who failed to complete a pass and beat you at home.
That's the point I'm making, he recruited one side of the ball and he did it well but failed in recruiting at every other position, you retard.
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Once again, his first day on the job he had a Jr kicker who had previously hit 7/10 FGs as a sophomore. You are plain wrong on this point.
7 of 10, WHOA. That's a lot of kicks! Did you know that we let females tryout for kicking after Harden sucked it up?
So yeah, he didn't have a kicker, he had a sometimes okay decent guy who just fell apart. You're just plain wrong in this aspect. 4 of 12, 7 of 10 are not numbers you want to see for a team that regularly ran the ball into the red zone but couldn't convert.
Eddie kicked more successful kicks in his first year than Harden had his entire tenure at Florida.
Posted on 1/28/17 at 2:27 pm to StrawsDrawnAtRandom
I've got nothing left to say to a delusional arse hole like you buddy. Spin things however you want. I'm done going in circles with you. That would be... retarded.
Posted on 1/28/17 at 3:34 pm to monkeybutt
Wasn't really a shot at you or at anything you've said. Someone earlier said that Brain Edwards was a 3 star so my point was that Edwards is a good ball player and I really like his size at 6'2 190 for a corner back. That's all my point really was 
Posted on 1/28/17 at 7:26 pm to atlgator
Some possible good news Brad Stewart just tweeted and it appears he is committing to UF...YES! Not confirmed but UF has felt good about him for a long time.
There will be good news coming folks...just wait! Oh and Nick Smith has committed..a 3 star LB but with great film and undervalued by services. Welcome to Gator Nation!!!!!!!!
There will be good news coming folks...just wait! Oh and Nick Smith has committed..a 3 star LB but with great film and undervalued by services. Welcome to Gator Nation!!!!!!!!
Posted on 1/28/17 at 7:31 pm to reel_gator8
Good night for UF in recruiting.
DB Brad Stewart and LB Nick Smith committed.
DB Brad Stewart and LB Nick Smith committed.
Posted on 1/28/17 at 8:12 pm to gatordmb89
Henderson recruiting is not quite over...he has been inundated with tweets and one in particular is telling: he has info through tweets that UF DBs have made 250 million in contracts with the NFL recently and UM only 66 million. Thats a powerful tool.
Of course the idiot U fans chime in with horseshite...about Homestead high school rumor about payoffs which has been debunked...some idiot U fan posted it and a stupid UGA fan ran with it. Anything to try and derail us down there.
Those players at the U will love playing in front of 22,000 "fans" when they play Wake or NC State in a rented pro stadium an hour away from campus. We should NEVER schedule that school...it only helps them with $$.
Of course the idiot U fans chime in with horseshite...about Homestead high school rumor about payoffs which has been debunked...some idiot U fan posted it and a stupid UGA fan ran with it. Anything to try and derail us down there.
Those players at the U will love playing in front of 22,000 "fans" when they play Wake or NC State in a rented pro stadium an hour away from campus. We should NEVER schedule that school...it only helps them with $$.
Posted on 1/28/17 at 8:30 pm to reel_gator8
MORE good news folks...hold on to your pants....Blades mom just tweeted at 3:30 today how much love she and Blades dad have for the GATORS and posted a pic of Blades with other Gator recruits! BOTH Blades and Henderson are STILL in play and our staff have been talking to them...a LOT!
We are going to KICK THE frickING DOOR DOWN!
We are going to KICK THE frickING DOOR DOWN!
Posted on 1/28/17 at 8:44 pm to gatordmb89
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DB Brad Stewart and LB Nick Smith committed.
Whoops, looks like someone is going to have to fulfill their promise of ''shutting the hell up''.
How fast they came, and how fast they'll go.
If we get Blades, too, for whatever reason, that's a pretty solid take.
Posted on 1/28/17 at 8:52 pm to reel_gator8
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MORE good news folks...hold on to your pants....Blades mom just tweeted at 3:30 today how much love she and Blades dad have for the GATORS and posted a pic of Blades with other Gator recruits! BOTH Blades and Henderson are STILL in play and our staff have been talking to them...a LOT!
We are going to KICK THE frickING DOOR DOWN!
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