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Posted on 10/13/15 at 11:48 pm to
Posted by Cockopotamus
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Posted on 10/13/15 at 11:48 pm to
Damn you did a much better job than I did. I was gonna add bios to the names I listed but I'm just gonna copy and paste this to the OP.

Shout out will be included
Posted by CockInYourEar
Charlotte
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Posted on 10/14/15 at 6:57 am to
"Coching" is in the thread title. Spelling nazi and all.
Posted by Carolina_Girl
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Posted on 10/14/15 at 7:42 am to


Posted by Cockopotamus
Member since Jan 2013
15737 posts
Posted on 10/14/15 at 9:42 am to
quote:

"Coching" is in the thread title


5 pages until someone points this out
Posted by CockInYourEar
Charlotte
Member since Sep 2012
22458 posts
Posted on 10/14/15 at 10:17 am to
quote:

5 pages until someone points this out


I think it was right yesterday, but it was changed recently.

Anyways, here's something I saw on another site (not my research, but it's good.)

Fuente

HC Exp (Yrs): 3

Overall W-L: 22-20

2015 W-L: 5-0

Pros:

· 2014 AAC COTY

· Turned around Memphis after 2 losing seasons (taking over a

· Patterson raves about his coaching acumen

· Led Memphis to first 10 win season since 1938

· Age

· 3 years as HC

Cons:

· 3 years as HC

· Player discipline

· AAC competition (but then again, AAC talent)

· Only one winning season (although this looks to be second at 5-0 right now)

Herman

HC Exp (Yrs): 1

Overall W-L: 5-0

2015 W-L: 5-0

Pros:

· 5-0 in first year @ Houston

· Everybody’s “up and comer flavor of the month”

· Mensa member

· Cum laude graduate

· Son’s a Maverick (no… really: that’s his name. One day he’ll go on to mourn Goose and then he can be Ice Man’s wing man any time)

· As Rice OC:

o ranked in the Top 10 nationally in 2008 in passing offense (5th; 327.8), scoring offense (T8th; 41.6) and total offense (10th; 472.3)

o Two Rice receivers had more than 1,300 yards

o tight end James Casey had 111 catches

o quarterback Chase Clement was the Conference USA MVP

· As Iowa State OC:

o 52 points in a win over Texas Tech marked the most points put up by the Cyclones against a conference opponent in 38 years

o Quarterback Austen Arnaud ended his career as the Cyclones No. 2 all-time leading passer with 6,777 yards and 42 touchdown passes. His 8,044 yards of total offense is the second-best total in school history.

o Running back Alexander Robinson finished his Iowa State career as the Cyclones' fourth all-time leading rusher with 3,309 yards

· As OSU OC:

o Won NC last year

o Led 4th ranked offense in 2014

o 2014 Broyles Award winner

Cons:

· First year as HC

· Plays in AAC

· May want bigger name job (such as Texas or Southern Cal)

· Raised in California

· Recruiting base

Mullen

HC Exp (Yrs): 7

Overall W-L: 50-33

2015 W-L: 4-2

Quotes:

Pros:

· Only missed a bowl his first year as HC

· 3-2 bowl record

· 2 top 15 finishes

· SEC West

· Recruiting base

· Coached Alex Smith, Chris Leak, Tim Tebow, Josh Harris, and Dak Prescott

· Part of Urban Meyer’s undefeated Utah staff in 2004

· OC on 2 of UF’s BCS National Championship teams

· Was #1 for a time in 2014 after beating #8 LSU, #6 Texas A&M, then #2 Auburn

· Delivered only the 2nd ever double-digit win season for MSU

· 3rd on MSU’s all-time wins list

· 2014 AFCA Region 2 COTY

· 2014 AP SEC COTY

· 2014 Athlon SEC COTY

· 2014 Maxwell Football Club COTY

Cons:

· Never won division (but come on… it’s the SEC West)

· Sub .500 SEC record (23-28 overall)

· (tied to previous point) only one winning SEC season (6-2 in 2014)

Dantonio

HC Exp (Yrs): 12

Overall W-L: 99-48

2015 W-L: 6-0

Quotes: "We've beat Michigan the last four years. So where's the threat?"

Pros:

· As a HC, only missed a bowl one year (2nd @ Cincy).

· Has 99 total wins since 2004.

· Wins big in Big10

· Conference Champion twice, runner up twice (once @ Cincy in CUSA)

· USC Alum (speaks to “want to”)

· Has hired good staffs

· 2nd highest winning percentage ever @ Michigan St.

· Headed only the 2nd Big10 team to ever win 13 games in a season

· In 2013, won nine conference games by double digits in each game

· Holds Michigan St. record with 8 straight bowls and 4 consecutive bowl wins

· Two-time Big10 COTY

Cons:

· Age

· Is in Big10

· Spent career in mid-west (no SE job experience)

· Health

· Recruiting base

Elliot

HC Exp (Yrs): 0

Overall W-L: 0-0

2015 W-L: 0-0

Pros:

· Energy

· Continuity

· Good recruiter

· Players love him

· Highly thought of as a potentially good eventual HC by 247 staff

· Bama wanted him for OL coach

· Relationships with guys like Shane Beamer, Brad Lawing, Marcus Lattimore, Jay Graham and Ellis Johnson

· Age

· Wants this job

Cons:

· Can he make the tough calls on staff?

· Does he have the ties to put together a top-notch recruiting & coaching staff?

· Does he have more than 2 running plays to use (speaking to his ingenuity/ability to adjust)

· No experience as HC (until Saturday… and can 6 games as interim HC really be enough time to judge his true potential as such?)

Smart

HC Exp (Yrs): 0

Overall W-L: 0-0

2015 W-L: 0-0

Quotes:

Pros:

· Understands Saban’s “process”

· Believes he can build great staff

· Age/Energy

· Great recruiter/will have a detailed plan

· Desire for the job (however, see final Con)

· Great defensive mind (studied under the best, but also has been learning from the best for a long time)

· Will be willing to reach outside of schemes used where he is (understands that most teams will not have the resources to do things the same way)

· Will be willing to put in all the time necessary to succeed

Cons:

· No experience as HC

· Bama coaching tree hasn’t necessarily led to automatic success as HC’s

Posted by Mr.Sinister
South Carolina
Member since Dec 2012
4956 posts
Posted on 10/14/15 at 10:29 am to
quote:

Smart

HC Exp (Yrs): 0

Overall W-L: 0-0

2015 W-L: 0-0

Quotes:

Pros:

· Understands Saban’s “process”

· Believes he can build great staff

· Age/Energy

· Great recruiter/will have a detailed plan

· Desire for the job (however, see final Con)

· Great defensive mind (studied under the best, but also has been learning from the best for a long time)

· Will be willing to reach outside of schemes used where he is (understands that most teams will not have the resources to do things the same way)

· Will be willing to put in all the time necessary to succeed

Cons:

· No experience as HC

· Bama coaching tree hasn’t necessarily led to automatic success as HC’s


My only draw back to this guy is, will he be hungry enough and have the desire to put in the ground work on a team and program that doesnt have 5* guys throwing themselves at it.

Elliot

HC Exp (Yrs): 0

Overall W-L: 0-0

2015 W-L: 0-0

Pros:

· Energy

· Continuity

· Good recruiter

· Players love him

· Highly thought of as a potentially good eventual HC by 247 staff

· Bama wanted him for OL coach

· Relationships with guys like Shane Beamer, Brad Lawing, Marcus Lattimore, Jay Graham and Ellis Johnson

· Age

· Wants this job

Cons:

· Can he make the tough calls on staff?

· Does he have the ties to put together a top-notch recruiting & coaching staff?

· Does he have more than 2 running plays to use (speaking to his ingenuity/ability to adjust)

· No experience as HC (until Saturday… and can 6 games as interim HC really be enough time to judge his true potential as such?)

He has the ability to turn subpar talent into competetive guys. See his body of work at APP St.
Did he learn enough for HBC and the system they had at APP St. to step in and be the guy?

Other than that the above two seem similar to me.
Posted by RoyalAir
Detroit
Member since Dec 2012
5882 posts
Posted on 10/14/15 at 3:32 pm to
Heath Cline, who I've always had a lot of respect for, doesn't think Herman is likely to come if offered. Said he spoke to some folks who know him, and that he would be happy to wait at Houston in order to take a peach of a job in a few years.

If this is true, and there isn't any mutual interest, take him off the list...
Posted by Cockopotamus
Member since Jan 2013
15737 posts
Posted on 10/14/15 at 4:04 pm to
quote:

Heath Cline, who I've always had a lot of respect for, doesn't think Herman is likely to come if offered. Said he spoke to some folks who know him, and that he would be happy to wait at Houston in order to take a peach of a job in a few years.



Yea I felt it unlikely he would jump from Houston after only one season. Thats a great school to stay at until you get the job offer you want
Posted by CockInYourEar
Charlotte
Member since Sep 2012
22458 posts
Posted on 10/15/15 at 8:35 am to
New name, Gamecock ties.

Rich Biasccia - ST Coordinator Dallas Cowboys.

No head coaching experience. Former GA, RB Coach, and ST Coord for SC in the late 80's/early 90's. (Brandon Bennett, Stanley Pritchett years.)

Also coached RB's at clemson, and ole miss after then went to the NFL in 2002, where he's been there ever since (except Gus tried to hire him in 2013 to work at Auburn, and he did for a month, but then left for the Cowboys.)


Posted by Porter Osborne Jr
Member since Sep 2012
39987 posts
Posted on 10/15/15 at 9:35 am to
He seems underwhelming compared to the others.
Posted by CockInYourEar
Charlotte
Member since Sep 2012
22458 posts
Posted on 10/15/15 at 9:45 am to
quote:

He seems underwhelming compared to the others.


Yes, but this thread is just about tossing out the names right now, and we're just posting anyone who's being rumored to show interest, or being mentioned by media as a candidate. This guy has less than a 1% chance of getting the job, but he's been named by 247 as someone who might be interested.
Posted by Porter Osborne Jr
Member since Sep 2012
39987 posts
Posted on 10/15/15 at 9:49 am to
Gotcha.
Posted by UpstateCock2007
Columbia, SC
Member since Mar 2009
7717 posts
Posted on 10/15/15 at 11:02 am to
I saw this guy mentioned last night, and he was the first WTF is that that I have seen. There was actually an article about him that I can't seem to find a link to at the moment.

Posted by RoyalAir
Detroit
Member since Dec 2012
5882 posts
Posted on 10/15/15 at 12:22 pm to
The article was out of the Dallas Morning News. He has endorsement from Derrick Brooks and Jon Lynch, but he can't be a serious candidate- though he did have three NFL head coaching job interviews last season.
Posted by CockInYourEar
Charlotte
Member since Sep 2012
22458 posts
Posted on 10/15/15 at 3:05 pm to
Great information about one of our Top Candidates, Tom Herman.

https://www.campusrush.com/tom-herman-houston-cougars-head-coach-education-1336562958.html

quote:

People make a big deal about the system you run. But I've learned though the years that your system has to marry your talent. One of my proudest seasons is when we went 12-0 in my first year at Ohio State in 2012. Philosophically, we wanted to be balanced. But we couldn't throw the ball. We had a good line, a beast at tailback in Carlos Hyde and a freak at quarterback in Braxton Miller. It was one of my proudest achievements in coaching. We didn't try to fit a square peg in a round hole. And that's how we're going to approach stuff at Houston. You start with a vision of, "Here's who we are. Here's our beliefs. Here's how we play." What our vision may be is going to be entirely dependent on the players we have.



quote:

For 100 years in football, no one has won a game because of their finesse. I don't know any team that ever won a championship while playing soft. So, when we got here, physicality was nonnegotiable.


quote:

One thing that I've gotten much better at is confrontation with my assistant coaches. I've learned that it's O.K., you just can't ever make it personal. I think that's one thing that you learn from someone like Urban, or if you've heard Nick Saban talk. It's never personal. It's never, "You stupid jerk, why did I hire you?" The way to handle it is, "You're not doing your job. This is what we need you to do. Get it done. These are the expectations."


I think I'm developing a man crush.

quote:

Rice didn't have very nice facilities, so I knew which hallways to walk him down and where to hide him—I knew what doors to keep closed so he did not see certain things. Meanwhile, we planned any way we could to polish up the facilities. But during the spring my office phone rang and it's the quarterback's dad. I'm thinking, "Great!" I take the call, and he says, "Coach Herman, my wife and son and I are in the parking lot. Can we come up and spend some time with you?" I said, "Of course," but I'm thinking to myself, "Oh no! Oh god! What do I do?"

So, I spent the next two hours fumbling around, and the kid saw all our warts. I went home that night feeling terrible—a combination of wanting to vomit profusely and curl up in the fetal position. I knew he was getting on a flight to Palo Alto the next day to visit Stanford. I knew what they were going to show him. And I knew that we were done. We had failed. Would we have gotten him? Probably not. But we failed. We did not put our best foot forward.

That quarterback was Andrew Luck.


wow.


quote:

One of our best players is William Jackson III, a defensive back from Houston. Earlier this spring, I called out our cornerbacks: "Last time I checked, William can't play left corner and right corner in the same game. So, someone in that group has to step up." Not long after, one of the corners showed up 45 minutes late for one of our summer workouts (where we can work with the kids for two hours a week). I went over, stopped the corners' drills and ripped the whole group, not just the kid who was late—ripped the position coach and William Jackson, too. Then I went over to the safeties and told them that their group had no leadership. I told the defensive backs that I don't trust William Jackson. I learned from Urban, who is just a phenomenal motivator, what truly inspires someone—he digs deep into that. William Jackson wants to be a great leader. I promise you he does, and when you call him out in front of his team and his peers, William Jackson has two ways to go. Either he goes in the tank or he responds. Later that day I had a meeting with him and built him up and told him how much I love him. That's a little peek behind the curtain.

...taking notes.


quote:

There's a hallway floor in our facility that is 25 years old. It rains a lot in Houston, so who knows what's under it by now. But a few months ago, the little rubber tiles started to peel up like a potato chip. I said, "Hey, this isn't safe for our athletes." After 10 or 15 emails, I said that I would pay for it. I went to Home Depot, bought a bunch of scrapers and spent a night peeling the tiles back. I was fully prepared to spend my own money to put a floor down. It was for my guys and for recruiting. I peeled up the floor myself because if somebody was going to be angry about it, I didn't want anyone else to get in trouble but me. It actually didn't take me that long, like three or four hours. I stacked the tiles up in the locker room. In a few weeks, we ended up with new floors.

Getting shite done...liking him even more.
This post was edited on 10/15/15 at 3:15 pm
Posted by RoyalAir
Detroit
Member since Dec 2012
5882 posts
Posted on 10/15/15 at 5:33 pm to
Fantastic article from Herman.

But it seems to me that he's genuinely content there, and happy to be in Texas. If UT fires Strong, I think he's theirs. If they don't, he'll sit tight and help get Houston in the Big 12. He's a good coach, and he's got a bright future ahead, but I just don't see him coming here. Could be very wrong, though.
Posted by CayceCock13
Braves / Hornets / Rams Fan
Member since Oct 2012
17543 posts
Posted on 10/17/15 at 1:19 pm to
Fuente's squad today has looked fantastic so far through 2.5 quarters.

Really not going to be disappointed if we hire Smart, Fuente or Herman. They're all going to be fantastic coaches.
Posted by Gcockboi
Rock Hill
Member since Oct 2012
7689 posts
Posted on 10/17/15 at 2:30 pm to
We need Fuente
Posted by TiptonInSC
Aiken, SC
Member since Dec 2012
18908 posts
Posted on 10/17/15 at 2:48 pm to
Fuente 2016
Posted by jackmanusc
Columbia, SC
Member since Apr 2012
3947 posts
Posted on 10/17/15 at 3:48 pm to
I'm all in in Fuente
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