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Beamer isn’t the guy, and the fans that still back him are idiots

Posted on 11/13/22 at 9:22 am
Posted by Bluefin
The Banana Stand
Member since Apr 2011
13257 posts
Posted on 11/13/22 at 9:22 am
Just rehashing this topic because why not.

Beamer made piss poor hires because he doesn’t know what he’s doing. Only SC would take a huge risk on a first time HC that literally no one else would even consider.

There is zero evidence to point to his ability to recognize this program’s flaws and make the appropriate moves to recover within the next 2 years. Anyone who thinks he can are acting on 100% blind faith.

The portion of our fanbase that were deeply entrenched for Beamer when we actually had the resources to make a push for Chadwell or Napier would rather watch this experiment doom our program for another 5 years before admitting they were wrong.

Any Gamecock who wants to see our university actually do something positive for once should refuse to go watch this team get slaughtered by 70 next Saturday. Do your part to send a message.

And let’s not forget Ray Tanner. This is all his fault.
Posted by SOSFAN
Blythewood
Member since Jun 2018
12185 posts
Posted on 11/13/22 at 11:37 am to
Gamecock fans: Those are some damn fine threads the Emperor has on.


Rest of Nation: Dude is naked as a jaybird.
Posted by RoyalAir
Detroit
Member since Dec 2012
5886 posts
Posted on 11/13/22 at 12:04 pm to
It's easy to be seduced by the positivity and the glitz of the media campaign. It makes you feel good when Josh Pate says "they've got their guy."

But yeah, he's nekkid. And UTK fans saw it first (which is why they mock him so) because they saw Butch do the same shite.

Should've done everything possible to hire Chadwell. But, Tanner.

He won't fire Shane, even though he probably should, and he'll wait too long to get Chadwell. It's a shame, too. Could've been a really fun year.
Posted by CarolinaGamecock99
Member since Apr 2015
21869 posts
Posted on 11/13/22 at 12:20 pm to
Dude is a moron with a giant ego. Constantly takes shots at the fanbase for our obvious problems with his dogshit OC. Even Muschamp wasn’t this bad
Posted by bleedsgarnet
Virginia
Member since Apr 2014
781 posts
Posted on 11/13/22 at 12:37 pm to
Im counting on beamer showing progress, even in losses, by the end of the 2024 season.

He will definitely get another 2 years. Period.

The good thing is that beamer shouldnt get an extension or a raise for the 2nd straight year.

And I believe the buyout is 60 percent of his remaining contract at the time of firing.

If they can him after year 4 they will only owe him about 3.3.

By then muschamps buyout will be about 3.3m..

So for 2025 we can pay off both coaches for under 6.5 m.
Posted by RoyalAir
Detroit
Member since Dec 2012
5886 posts
Posted on 11/13/22 at 5:20 pm to
Yeah, and it's sad that we're already looking to fire a coach on the cheap that we bought on the cheap.

My major fear is how much *more* difficult this job will be if Shane doesn't fix his coordinator and position coaches this off-season.

I can absolutely see Satterfield coming back in a limited capacity. I cannot see Shane getting a legit OC hot name.
Posted by GamecockUltimate
Columbia,SC
Member since Feb 2019
6799 posts
Posted on 11/13/22 at 5:33 pm to
This thread seems like an overreaction. Lets see what the man does with Satts contract expiring. With a good OC this team could legit be pretty good.

Dabo was on the chopping block as a first time HC until he cleaned house and got some new assistants.
Posted by bleedsgarnet
Virginia
Member since Apr 2014
781 posts
Posted on 11/13/22 at 5:51 pm to
Agree.

I was just saying beamer gets two more years..then they can look elsewhere.

I am hoping he stops throwing jabs at fans and turns it around.
Posted by SOSFAN
Blythewood
Member since Jun 2018
12185 posts
Posted on 11/13/22 at 6:29 pm to
quote:

This thread seems like an overreaction


The offense is no better than last year. No improvement yet we had an infusion of supposed talent yet Beamer has done nothing to try and get better results. There is a factual reason for the reactions you are seeing.

Edit I will give Beamer credit for the talent he brought in but it's been wasted talent.
This post was edited on 11/13/22 at 6:32 pm
Posted by bleedsgarnet
Virginia
Member since Apr 2014
781 posts
Posted on 11/13/22 at 6:52 pm to
Beamer will make staff changes or fail..simple as that.

B4 this season he said he believed in Satterfield 1000%.

He needs to toughen up. I don't care if we go 6-6 if we are competitive in losing.

We have looked awful in losing all year. I mean awful. That's what makes this so hard to take.

He needs to get this team ready for the next 2 games.

Lose with fight...
Posted by Bluefin
The Banana Stand
Member since Apr 2011
13257 posts
Posted on 11/13/22 at 8:37 pm to
quote:

Lets see what the man does with Satts contract expiring. With a good OC this team could legit be pretty good.

He was supposed to bring good coordinators with him when he was hired. At least that was apparently the selling point of making him our “CEO” HC. Aside from Lembo, he whiffed entirely.

It’s not that he made a few bad decisions with hiring his staff, it’s that he’s been so intensely loyal to them and keeps insisting that we, as fans, are incorrect about the product he’s putting out. It’s a major red flag and doesn’t leave much confidence he’d get it right the second time.

quote:

Dabo was on the chopping block as a first time HC until he cleaned house and got some new assistants

Was Clemson hampered by paying a major buyout to Bowden for several years? I actually can’t remember, but I don’t see how we can attract a respected OC unless we’re offering him at least $1.5 million in 2023.
Posted by lungbuster06
Member since Dec 2014
639 posts
Posted on 11/14/22 at 8:03 am to
I'm willing to give White another year, but Satt should've been fired last season. This year was an entire waste. We are severely lacking in talent on the back 7 plus our DL is poorly coached. Not to mention, our offense can't stay on the field to give our thin depth chart on defense a breather. None of that is a recipe for success. Offense has enough talent that we should be competitive in most games, yet we're not.
Posted by Lonnie Utah
Utah!
Member since Jul 2012
23921 posts
Posted on 11/14/22 at 8:33 am to
quote:

I'm willing to give White another year, but Satt should've been fired last season. This year was an entire waste. We are severely lacking in experience on the back 7 plus our DL is poorly coached. Not to mention, our offense can't stay on the field to give our thin depth chart on defense a breather. None of that is a recipe for success. Offense has enough talent that we should be competitive in most games, yet we're not.


I agree 100% with everything you say, with the one tweak above. Part of the reason I give White a pass is the stress our offense is putting on our defense. We're 111 in Time of Possession. Our defense has been on the field ALOT.
Posted by GamecockUltimate
Columbia,SC
Member since Feb 2019
6799 posts
Posted on 11/14/22 at 8:40 am to
quote:

I'm willing to give White another year, but Satt should've been fired last season.


Im fine giving Beamer a pass for keeping Satt this year. OC sometimes see much better results in year two, that said....he has not so you move on at the end of the year.

Whites defense looked pretty good last year. Our LB's are young, and our Dline isnt deep. I expect that side to continue to grow. White absolutely gets another year, he was praised heavily last year.

My order of firing

Satt
Atkins
whomever the Dline coach is.
This post was edited on 11/14/22 at 8:42 am
Posted by Lonnie Utah
Utah!
Member since Jul 2012
23921 posts
Posted on 11/14/22 at 8:48 am to
on the flip side of things, DOUBLE Pete Limbo's salary....
Posted by MBGamecock
South Carolina
Member since Jan 2013
914 posts
Posted on 11/14/22 at 8:55 am to
Beamer is just a symptom of a much deeper problem. The fact that Ray Tanner is still the AD is fricking staggering.

quote:

Any Gamecock who wants to see our university actually do something positive for once should refuse to go watch this team get slaughtered by 70 next Saturday


This in all honesty may be the main problem. This fanbase continues to accept this bullshite. We'll sell out the stadium on Saturday, get slaughtered and the stadium will be half empty by half time. But it won't matter at that point, the tickets are already bought and paid for.
Posted by Bluefin
The Banana Stand
Member since Apr 2011
13257 posts
Posted on 11/14/22 at 1:17 pm to
quote:

The fact that Ray Tanner is still the AD is fricking staggering.

Preach.
Posted by Bluefin
The Banana Stand
Member since Apr 2011
13257 posts
Posted on 11/14/22 at 1:45 pm to
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I'm willing to give White another year

I had been feeling that White should get a pass for this year until the Mizzou game, and then that feeling completely flipped after this past Saturday.

I don't expect White to go anywhere after this season, but games like Arkansas, Mizzou, and Florida have exposed that serious improvements must be made. It's not even fair to throw UGA in there. There is objectively little confidence that our D will be able to do ANYTHING to slow down Tennessee (even for one drive) and Clemson.

Someone on 247 also pointed out that we had numerous LBs who wanted to transfer in before this season, and White inexplicably passed on them.

And for the record, I'm not completely miserable over our program at the moment. I've been numb to Gamecock football for years but I am just aggravated that other fanbases know what it takes to express their displeasure, yet many of our fans care more about being seen as loyal than pushing for a needed change.
Posted by Lonnie Utah
Utah!
Member since Jul 2012
23921 posts
Posted on 11/14/22 at 1:49 pm to
quote:

Someone on 247 also pointed out that we had numerous LBs who wanted to transfer in before this season, and White inexplicably passed on them.


It might have been a space issue. I dunno. Not defending the man, just spit-balling. But LB is our most glaring weakness right now on defense (and why our run d has been awful the past 3+ games). I feel we have a solid O-line, serviceable, albeit young, secondary and awful LB's. When Mohamed Kaba went down vs Arky, our defense got ALOT worse.
This post was edited on 11/14/22 at 1:51 pm
Posted by Soda City Spur
Coastal Plains
Member since Mar 2017
957 posts
Posted on 11/14/22 at 3:59 pm to
I give White a pass for a variety of reasons. Main reason being that outside of the WR group, our LB group has been the worst position on our team and he's basically rebuilding it from scratch. The last regime seemed to think if we had a good enough DL and Secondary that LB didn't really matter.

I think this is why the Kaba injury can not be emphasized enough and why we've been targeting higher end talent like Blanton and Howard.

No excuses for Satterfield whatsoever. He can pack his shite and leave yesterday.
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