re: What is/was the alternative on offense?

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They're also 5 - 7, are you sure you want to be using them as a barometer?

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We are talking about offensive production right. They are 16th in the nation in that category. So they are 5-7 with an offense. If they had a our defense they would've won more games. At least Strong had the balls to play a Freshman with his job on the line and people asking his head before the season. You created the thread the topic was offense not overall record.

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Sorry, kiddo, I think I'll take a conference championship and a winning record. Thanks for your input.

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What conference championship the east isn't a conference and no way in hell do we beat Bama. Back to back SEC EAST champions looks great on our Wikipedia page. You realize how bad the east is. It is the worst it has been in 10 years. He has beat 2 teams with winning records this year there is nothing spectacular about that. The way you talk you would think teams call you for guidance and analysis. You are nothing but a fan just like everyone else. You come on here and spew the same crap week after week, same excuses week after week. We haven't improved overall on offense one bit if anything we regressed. Take McElwain's nuts off your chin and open your eyes Kiddo. Thanks for you expert input.

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Ok...so 5-7 and playing a true frosh QB is a moral victory now? You guys would be screaming for Mac's head. Sooo...forget W/L records lets entertain fans now? So much horsecrap.

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We are talking about offensive production and that alone are we not? Its not a moral victory we are using it as an example of a team playing well on offense with a Freshman all the while people calling for his head. You yourself said we shouldn't of redshirt both Freshman. So what are we trying to do now bring in another transfer QB who just said he probably wont even invite us for a couch visit.

No one said forget win and loss records and Yes a win is a win and obviously you want a winning record but we cant compete against competent teams with our current offensive production. I am sick and tired of having a shitty offense at Florida and getting beat 70% of the time against ranked teams or teams who can score.

Are you happy with our offense? Was our offense your expectation for the year? We are 120th on ESPN in total offense. There is no excuse for that.

Again, THE EAST IS TERRIBLE. I'm not settling for an SEC east title. It will literally mean nothing next Monday that we won the east.

I'm not sure why there's so much angst about Spurrier here.

First, he's in the building. Anyone that doesn't think the thought has passed through Strickland's mind is kidding himself.

Second, coming back has done nothing to tarnish the reputation of Snyder at Kansas St. In fact, his reputation has gotten even better.

Third, can anyone honestly say that back in 2001 you thought to yourself, "Self, I hope that bastard Spurrier leaves, I'd much rather him retire from coaching at another school rather than retire from UF."?

Fourth, would it really be a bad thing if he came back and there was a coach-in-waiting or some other mechanism set up? It worked pretty good for FSU in their transition from Bowden to Fisher.

I'm not saying this is the ultimate criteria, but it would be quite hilarious to see UGA, UT, and every other school in the East go ahead and write off their 2017 season if Spurrier came back. They would roll over and submit before the SEC meetings in Destin.

We did redshirt Grier if anyone remembers and that turned out well offensively except for peeing purple which isnt Macs fault.